visionary Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warhead36 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 #repealthesecondamnedment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Arming teachers will get teachers shot. After Columbine SWAT tactics changed, thry no longer wait to go in, they know the 6 minute rule. A teacher hunting down a shooter is just another shooter in the eyes of SWAT who does not know the details of the shooting. They MUST be treated as a hostile. Lets revisit the 6 minutes again too, arming teachers we’re asking teachers to go into hunt mode to try and kill an armed and prepared murderer, within the first 6 minutes after shooting begins. So does the teacher/admin carry all the time or do they lock it in a box? Nothing about any of this says shootings will stop. Not to mention that ALL OF IT is REACTIONARY! How many kids die before a response? This is the biggest single flaw to ANYTHING the Right has to offer, they are completely reactionary...people have to die first before their prevention plan goes into action. And really, how stupid is that? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: I think this video is misleading ... because in many places you are required by law to have a business permit to sell lemonade. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Corcaigh said: I think this video is misleading ... because in many places you are required by law to have a business permit to sell lemonade. Edited February 17, 2018 by AsburySkinsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just saw that this got bumped so also posting Bill Weir going off on Huckabee here. Spoilered for a naughty word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbee99 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Read everything just to post my obligatory "thoughts and prayers".......MAGA and all that other jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: Arming teachers will get teachers shot. After Columbine SWAT tactics changed, thry no longer wait to go in, they know the 6 minute rule. A teacher hunting down a shooter is just another shooter in the eyes of SWAT who does not know the details of the shooting. They MUST be treated as a hostile. Lets revisit the 6 minutes again too, arming teachers we’re asking teachers to go into hunt mode to try and kill an armed and prepared murderer, within the first 6 minutes after shooting begins. So does the teacher/admin carry all the time or do they lock it in a box? Nothing about any of this says shootings will stop. Not to mention that ALL OF IT is REACTIONARY! How many kids die before a response? This is the biggest single flaw to ANYTHING the Right has to offer, they are completely reactionary...people have to die first before their prevention plan goes into action. And really, how stupid is that? These jerks wont even give teachers money for paint and pencils or printer toner, yet want to provide guns for them. It says it all about America. Its a country that is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Lets give our teachers crappy salaries and inadequate supplies and resources, but arm them with guns! #murica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Shoot, I saw Bobby Seale, Co-Founder of the Black Panther Party, speak a few weeks ago. In California, there was no law that prohibited a person to openly carry a gun on state grounds. They walked into the California State Capitol Building in 1967 with their rifles out in the open, and that scared Gov. Ronald Reagan and those clowns in the California legislature so much that they passed a law banning guns on state grounds, WITH THE HELP OF THE NRA Maybe thats what it will take. Jameel carrying an assault rifle and murdering white children, or Ahmed doing the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: These jerks wont even give teachers money for paint and pencils or printer toner, yet want to provide guns for them. It says it all about America. Its a country that is over. Yeah the whole concept of arming teachers is stupid and impractical. Anyone advancing that hasn't thought it through at all because there are hundred reasons it won't work or be effective. At most states will pass laws allowing teachers to carry, which will result in probably about 5% of teachers actually having firearms and the whole thing not doing anything preventative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 There aren't any good answers for immediate response. Teachers can't have guns, we can't turn schools into forts, the police will always be minutes in response time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, BenningRoadSkin said: These jerks wont even give teachers money for paint and pencils or printer toner, yet want to provide guns for them. It says it all about America. Its a country that is over. Just so selfish assholes can keep their ****ing toys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngestson Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 9:15 AM, LD0506 said: I found it amusing that once the "scary black Muslim President that wasn't even born here!!" left office sales started to tank. I'm sure it was all just coincidence though....... :eyeroll: I wondered during the last election what sort of internal anguish gun manufacturers must have been going through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 8:59 AM, Zguy28 said: Looks like Remington is filing Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Good riddance. Those jackasses should go out of business. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/popular-remington-700-rifle-linked-to-potentially-deadly-defects/ Quote For years, despite the videos, and testing hundreds of rifles sent to the company, Remington typically marked complaints “could not duplicate” and filed them in a database. And regulators couldn’t do anything because their hands are tied: the government is allowed to recall toy guns, but not real ones. Robert Chaffin: In the world of firearms there is no such thing as a consumer product agency that can force any firearms makers to recall the gun. Does not exist. Lesley Stahl: ‘Cause of the Second Amendment, correct? Robert Chaffin: Well, the right to bear arms, yes. Any recall has to be voluntary. So the government can recall a toy gun, but not a real one We've lost our damn minds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Don't worry. Long as the Republicans are in charge, they won't be recalling anything else, either. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, Larry said: Don't worry. Long as the Republicans are in charge, they won't be recalling anything else, either. With the exception of certain elections perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I am heartened to see these young people from Parkland speaking out so forcefully, but my cynicism won't let me believe it will make a difference. Politicians knowingly take money stained with blood of children, they won't hear any of it. It's just good business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, LD0506 said: I am heartened to see these young people from Parkland speaking out so forcefully, but my cynicism won't let me believe it will make a difference. Politicians knowingly take money stained with blood of children, they won't hear any of it. It's just good business. Short term, yeah I'm a cynic too. But long term, hopefully enough of the population will see the light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 3 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said: Shoot, I saw Bobby Seale, Co-Founder of the Black Panther Party, speak a few weeks ago. In California, there was no law that prohibited a person to openly carry a gun on state grounds. They walked into the California State Capitol Building in 1967 with their rifles out in the open, and that scared Gov. Ronald Reagan and those clowns in the California legislature so much that they passed a law banning guns on state grounds, WITH THE HELP OF THE NRA Maybe thats what it will take. Jameel carrying an assault rifle and murdering white children, or Ahmed doing the same. I remember seeing that in the PBS documentary about the Black Panthers. Highly recommend it to anyone that hasn't seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Real gun reform won't happen until Dems get back White House and Congress, I really believe that now. NRA has too much influence on campaigns and republican candidates can't turn the money down in fear of losing out on more then just that. Only way that we're going to get GOP to support certain laws it will be after they are enacted and its not politically viable to try to get them repealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said: Shoot, I saw Bobby Seale, Co-Founder of the Black Panther Party, speak a few weeks ago. In California, there was no law that prohibited a person to openly carry a gun on state grounds. They walked into the California State Capitol Building in 1967 with their rifles out in the open, and that scared Gov. Ronald Reagan and those clowns in the California legislature so much that they passed a law banning guns on state grounds, WITH THE HELP OF THE NRA Maybe thats what it will take. Jameel carrying an assault rifle and murdering white children, or Ahmed doing the same. Nothing happened after Orlando and San Bernardino mass shootings, both which were committed by Muslim, brown men. The NRA and the gun loving sociopaths in this country truly do not give a ****. Edited February 17, 2018 by No Excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Real gun reform won't happen until Dems get back White House and Congress, I really believe that now. NRA has too much influence on campaigns and republican candidates can't turn the money down in fear of losing out on more then just that. Only way that we're going to get GOP to support certain laws it will be after they are enacted and its not politically viable to try to get them repealed. It’s not just their money GOP candidates fear losing (though I’m sure they do fear that) it’s the votes of their members. Not or sure how many GOP candidates could get elected (or even selected to run) if they came out as pro gun control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, MartinC said: It’s not just their money GOP candidates fear losing (though I’m sure they do fear that) it’s the votes of their members. Not or sure how many GOP candidates could get elected (or even selected to run) if they came out as pro gun control. Always wondered how much of an effect that would actually end up being. 63 Million for Trump, 66 Million for Hillary, 5 million NRA members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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