Unforgiven Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 180 yards in penalties.What would you prefer to do in a game vs new england? Play to the one strength of your special teams and kick it deep, where Gano has a 50% touchback average, backed up by the number one coverage unit in the league? Or try to get cute and angle one to the sidelines where you have a better than even chance of giving Tom Brady the ball at the 40? Guess what we decided to do last year? ~Bang Again, you see him on the sidelines all the time talking to the HC. It's not like he has the final word on all this, some of these calls are coming from above him. Neither of us can know who called what in all these game situations. It just seems like if it ever went wrong you're wanting to dump it solely on Danny Smith and no one else. This is sort of a pointless debate to have because we're just not privy to all the facts of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I'm not exactly supportive of this move......Gano was younger and much better from 50+. Cundiff has the leg to be a great 50+ kicker, but lacks accuracy at that distance. There is a reason he has been with 9 teams in 12 years.....better not choke us away games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 What happens if Cundiff goes 0-2 on field goals Tomorrow night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan93 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I for one is happy we have Cundiff. Gano has a strong leg but his kicks have no arch, too much of a line drive. That is why he had so many kicks blocked last year. Through the preseason, I don't think there was enough to show he had corrected that problem but it worried me. I would have preferred Rackers but there's a reason he has been on team after team over the last several years. I don't understand the whole hoopla over bringing in Cundiff. Teams do that all the time, bring kickers in during the preseason, during the season, and during the playoffs. They don't add or subtract from team morale and chemistry. He and the punter are together and away from the rest of the team. Let's go Billy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Again, you see him on the sidelines all the time talking to the HC. It's not like he has the final word on all this, some of these calls are coming from above him.Neither of us can know who called what in all these game situations. It just seems like if it ever went wrong you're wanting to dump it solely on Danny Smith and no one else. This is sort of a pointless debate to have because we're just not privy to all the facts of the situation. You're right, we don't know this. All we can do is speculate. And I'd like to say that I don't just immediately jump on Danny for no reason. these same multitudes of mistakes have repeated themselves with Gibbs, Zorn, and now Shanahan. It just hasn't gotten better. At some point the buck has to stop with him. remember those car care commercials (aamco ,i think) with the monkeys pounding on the transmission with baseball bats? to me, cutting Rackers, now Gano, and bringing in another new guy is like taking your car BACK to that place again and again. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot_Tony90 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 and gano didnt? common He sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky52Mc Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I for one is happy we have Cundiff. Gano has a strong leg but his kicks have no arch, too much of a line drive. That is why he had so many kicks blocked last year. Through the preseason, I don't think there was enough to show he had corrected that problem but it worried me. I would have preferred Rackers but there's a reason he has been on team after team over the last several years.I don't understand the whole hoopla over bringing in Cundiff. Teams do that all the time, bring kickers in during the preseason, during the season, and during the playoffs. They don't add or subtract from team morale and chemistry. He and the punter are together and away from the rest of the team. Let's go Billy. But just so we're clear, do you understand the important of those kickoffs that were directed corner end zone for no return? Also these two kicked the same percentage last year, gano has the better leg, yet 5 of his kicks were blocked and there's a ton of evidence to say that it was actually the middle 3 guys that had problems helping him. He's also like 25 years old vs. Cundiff 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 But just so we're clear, do you understand the important of those kickoffs that were directed corner end zone for no return? Also these two kicked the same percentage last year, gano has the better leg, yet 5 of his kicks were blocked and there's a ton of evidence to say that it was actually the middle 3 guys that had problems helping him. He's also like 25 years old vs. Cundiff 32 I dont think age even matters when its comes to kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Ok, this has knocked me sideways. Cooley was just a matter of when, however much folk buried their head in the sands in outright denial. This, this is something else. Happy as all heck to see Gano gone. (No need to rehash that argument.) . But Billy 'career average' Cundiff as his replacement? WOW. Guess we'll STILL be lookign for a new kicker next year regardless. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky52Mc Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I dont think age even matters when its comes to kicking. so aside from the fact that "you don't think" what else do you think about this? When it comes to age, I guarantee you power is related in there. The other point is we're now dealing with a PTSD kicker. He missed the afc championship CHIP SHOT. If for some reason the Redskins have an important game and he's kicking, you best believe he'll be ****ting just as much as me. Gano was an untouched kicker. Mentally he was all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefJerky Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Didn't see this coming. Good luck Gano, and welcome to the Redskins Big Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I hope we nab John Kasay when the Saints cut him ... even if he is 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 this has probably already been said, but pro bowl kicker vs. the 2nd worst kicker in the league the past 4-5 years. ummm, i'll take it. its at the very LEAST a push. definitely nothing to be upset about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paloosa Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Why Cundiff? What was wrong with Gano? Didn't Cundiff miss a field goal in the AFC Championship game? Isn't this his 3rd or 4th team? I guess we will find out if it was worth it. When I saw the Rackers signing this summer, then his release, then the Cundiff signing just spelled the end of the line for Gano. But it was kind of a strange day today to see all these releases. Even a shocker in Cooley being released. Oh well. I can see that this team had some hard decisions to make and they made them. At least Cundiff is a little more dependable than Gano even though he missed the game winning FG in the AFC Championship game last year. Gano missed too many of them and that is why I think that the Cundiff signing was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Cundiff blows. Rough day for the front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Cundiff blows. Rough day for the front office. This will bite the Skins this season...Just remember when Cundiff Misses the game winner..Gano and Rackers could have done that..Ha..Ha Man these coaches over-think themselves sometimes..geez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rskin72 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Well, I thought that Shanahan's reasons to keep Gano and let Rackers go were a little "off", mentioning that Gano had won the statistical battle in TC. From the reports I read, and no I did not read all, it seemed to me that Rackers was actually doing better. I was relieved when Rackers was released, and we kept Gano as I thought Gano had the better upside, and would improve this season. Looking at the career of Cundiff, and recalling his miss last season in the playoffs....I am not sure this is a upgrade. Guess we will see, but I would have preferred to have kept Gano and let Cundiff go elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdiscokid Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Not sure why all the Cundiff hate, he's now a redskin and should be embraced as such. Welcome to the team Billy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTskins Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 so aside from the fact that "you don't think" what else do you think about this? When it comes to age, I guarantee you power is related in there. The other point is we're now dealing with a PTSD kicker. He missed the afc championship CHIP SHOT. If for some reason the Redskins have an important game and he's kicking, you best believe he'll be ****ting just as much as me. Gano was an untouched kicker. Mentally he was all there. With all due respect, Rocky, you really don't think that those 5 blocks last year, whether cause solely by the the Special Teams protection or not, had any effect on Gano? Yes, Cundiff missed a chip shot in the AFC championship game, but that is just as much on Harbaugh and his staff for not tracking the situation on their own and not calling a time out. I would expect a 32 year old veteran to shake off that miss more than I'd expect a 25 year old kid to regain complete confidence that his next non-PAT kick wouldn't be blocked. Gano had a 2+ seasons to prove himself. If he'd made the most of it in the eyes of the coaches, we aren't having this conversation. Just my $0.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 and gano didnt? common Billy Cundiff - 32 Graham Gano - 25 Cundiff's lukewarm career peaked years ago. We now have two average-at-best kickers in their 30s fighting it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Ugh I really wanted to give Gano one more year. He's got a leg. He's gonna go somewhere and kill it watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 so aside from the fact that "you don't think" what else do you think about this? When it comes to age, I guarantee you power is related in there. The other point is we're now dealing with a PTSD kicker. He missed the afc championship CHIP SHOT. If for some reason the Redskins have an important game and he's kicking, you best believe he'll be ****ting just as much as me. Gano was an untouched kicker. Mentally he was all there. Your right, I should have been more clear. I know that age doesnt matter when it comes to kicking field goals based on what I have seen over the years in the NFL. There are good young kickers as well as good old kickers and every kicker seems to have a certain strength they bring to the table. The rest of your points are solid so dont really have anything to debate although Gano always seemed to kick the ball out of bounds late in the game when we couldnt afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddyKGB Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Cundiff to us reminds me a lot of Akers to 49ers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTskins Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Why Cundiff? What was wrong with Gano? Didn't Cundiff miss a field goal in the AFC Championship game? Isn't this his 3rd or 4th team? I guess we will find out if it was worth it. When I saw the Rackers signing this summer, then his release, then the Cundiff signing just spelled the end of the line for Gano. But it was kind of a strange day today to see all these releases. Even a shocker in Cooley being released. Oh well. I can see that this team had some hard decisions to make and they made them. At least Cundiff is a little more dependable than Gano even though he missed the game winning FG in the AFC Championship game last year. Gano missed too many of them and that is why I think that the Cundiff signing was made. I agree with you about Gano. He was a weekly heart attack waiting to happen. Cundff is more accurate inside 45 years, where a majority of kicks are attempted. Point of clarification though: Cundiff's miss vs. the Patriots would have tied the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 They also still had a time out. The coaches should have called a time out. I believe they kicked it with like 1 second left on the play clock Thanks for the update. I couldn't remember and didn't feel like looking it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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