Riggo#44 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said: I wonder what color crayon he used to make it. Burgundy and gold, alternating bubble letters. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacePenguin Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Burgundy and gold, alternating bubble letters. Don't forget the white.....it signifies SPEED. The gradient is a multiplier. TA-DA!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 11 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: I wonder what color crayon he used to make it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 16 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: Because you listen to Sip too much. lol, I don't mind owning mistakes. 😎. Not sure if Barton though is one. I never pushed signing him on the FA thread. I knew nothing about him in FA. But once they signed him, I read that he came on towards the end of his last season. So i watched a couple of those games, and agreed with that sentiment, PFF grades, etc. He was all over the field in those 2 games. So it gave me some optimism. But apparently he was either a flash in the pan or as the beat guys have said (assume they heard it from the coaches) he's struggiling to pick up the scheme and is a beat behind. So his PFF scores among other things now suck. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Its William Jackson all over again. We sign a player who is dumb as rocks, OR the scheme is just overly complicated for no reason. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: lol, I don't mind owning mistakes. 😎. Not sure if Barton though is one. I never pushed signing him on the FA thread. I knew nothing about him in FA. I don't recall you doing so either, but it was a funny comment by kool! 11 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: I hate this comment. It fluffs over saying, this dude sucks but we are stuck with him...boy did I mess up thinking he'd be better than Holcomb. 6 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Its William Jackson all over again. We sign a player who is dumb as rocks, OR the scheme is just overly complicated for no reason. Yes, can the scheme really be that complicated? Or is he dumb or does he not know how to properly prepare? I think he has slow instincts and in general is slow to react getting him late to move towards the carrier or be able to slide through blockers. Study all you want, I think he processes too slow and is backup material only. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Barton wasn't a bad player in Seattle, but they're known for running a very simple scheme. I do feel like we begin most seasons with super complicated schemes but then we adjust after early struggles and end up stabilizing and playing well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 52 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Barton wasn't a bad player in Seattle, but they're known for running a very simple scheme. I do feel like we begin most seasons with super complicated schemes but then we adjust after early struggles and end up stabilizing and playing well. Our defensive scheme is somehow complex for our players, yet simple for opposing offenses to decipher. We have the worst of both worlds. 4 1 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Its William Jackson all over again. We sign a player who is dumb as rocks, OR the scheme is just overly complicated for no reason. The scheme does ask more of backers - whether that is for no good reason is arguable. They want to take advantage of the strength they have in the D'Line, so they ask them to play downhill and get up field. Kind of a 1 gap philosophy with a bit of 'tackle the back on the way to the QB' about it. Behind that the backers are not playing 1 gap - they have to read the D'line and adjust to what they do and where they go - kind of 2 gap but not even really that. Its more on the plate of the backers and probably explains why Barton is a tick late in reaction. He's still adjusting - its part of why its taken Davis longer to really play to a decent level. It makes sense at one level. Unleash the best part of your D. But you are then asking more of (arguably) the worse part of the D - and that might not be wise ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 If our LBers were good, we wouldn't need both safeties coming up to the box to defend the run and quick game, but they're not. I'm definitely not looking forward to Butler, Forbes and Martin, trying to tackle Bijon, let alone London and Pitts. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 There was a run where we had both DTs lined up outside of each Guard and both DEs lined up wide 9 outside of the Tackles. The LBs were playing off. So the Bears smartly audible to a run up the middle and easily gash us because there's literally no one there. A more innovative Defensive Coordinator wouldn't telegraph like that unless it's a trap i.e. stunting back to the middle or blitzing the middle. Or when we telegraph man coverage with our rookie CB against a top 10 WR, a more innovative DC would use that as bait and role coverage that way. Instead when we telegraph weaknesses, it is exactly what it appears to be. A weakness. Easily exploitable and there for an offense to attack all game. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 ^^ FWIW I think the sign is stupid. But I also thought "stay in the fight" was stupid. And the Nats won the world series that year. So what the hell do I know about signs/slogans? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Rivera when people see the sign... Just now, Skinsinparadise said: Ass for Alt in full swing. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: ^^ FWIW I think the sign is stupid. But I also thought "stay in the fight" was stupid. And the Nats won the world series that year. So what the hell do I know about signs/slogans? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgundyBooger Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Hasn't this been the Patriots slogan since BB arrived there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, BurgundyBooger said: Hasn't this been the Patriots slogan since BB arrived there? Yeah I associate that with Belichick circa like 7 years ago. I thought it was a documentary or something that had that tag line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 38 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: He can spell optimism? I wouldn’t have guessed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Most of us figured it was obvious the schedule would be a lot harder this year. I'd say that is panning out. Shame we a struggling w/ the easier portion of our sched too... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 49 minutes ago, BurgundyBooger said: Hasn't this been the Patriots slogan since BB arrived there? Maybe not since he arrived, but it definitely is a major catchphrase of their team the last decade plus or so. It was pretty ubiquitous here in NE for a long time. People quoted it in all kinds of different contexts. Any other football team using it now is frankly pretty embarrassing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 It's a good point why is the dude that is struggiling to learn the defense actually calling the defense? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 We are once again reminded that we haven't had a competent defensive defensive caller since Loudon Flechter retired a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Man, that’s a damning 4 clip stretch there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, NickyJ said: We are once again reminded that we haven't had a competent defensive defensive caller since Loudon Flechter retired a decade ago. Good point. Remember how good they were defensively with Antonio Pierce. He leaves to go to the Giants, and then their defense rises up. Our defense falls off a cliff the next season but rebounds with London Fletcher who he arrives. Fletcher was arguably the last good MLB here. Edited October 13, 2023 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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