Welcome to the Commanders Emmanuel Forbes CB Mississippi State

[Ball Security]

2 minutes ago, FootballZombie said:

 

I'd like it better if it was true. Same story every dang year. Lies

 

 

That’s $200 for the Super Bowl party!

 

 

[FootballZombie]

2 minutes ago, Ball Security said:

That’s $200 for the Super Bowl party!

 

Or they could just watch the movie Draft Day...

 

same diff

Edited April 28, 2023 by FootballZombie

[srtman04]

I've finished making fun of the guy, now onto the good.   This guy is a ball hawk and has a natural knack to be around where the play is at almost all times.  He's fast and nimble and he can CATCH.   I expect to see our INT's go up with this guy alone.   Hopefully that translates to more pick 6's as well,  we need those in our life.  

[redskinss]

The hundred dollar bill thing is from the movie draft day.

 

Edit, zombie beat me to it.

 

He must be one of those world war z zombies and not the walking dead.

Edited April 28, 2023 by redskinss

[Tress Is The Way]

19 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

this is a great story

 

 

 

This is fake and from a movie called draft day, I've seen this a lot around twitter.

Edited April 28, 2023 by Tress Is The Way

[HoggLife]

2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

this is a great story

 

 

 

Awesome story. But I think I've heard this before. So I don't believe it. 

[Rex Tomb]

 

[FootballZombie]

15 minutes ago, redskinss said:

He must be one of those world war z zombies and not the walking dead.

 

Shamblers get scraps

 

Everybody knows that

[Skinsinparadise]

27 minutes ago, Rex Tomb said:

This is a good watch - the thing is the talent around Devonta Smith >>>> Emmanuel Forbes.  He had almost no safety help over the top.  I also have to imagine, should he be the student of the game it seems he is, that he has learned a few things from that experience and gotten better as a result.  He was a freshman in this clip.  Something to keep in mind.  

 

I've seen better hip to hip sticky coverage type CBs in this draft.  He's good on that front but IMO not great -- you can see that some in this match up which is ironic because the rap for some is he's perfectly tailored to stop Devonta Smith.  He gave Devonta a fight but Devonta did well enough against him overall.

 

But the ball hawk stuff is no joke.  Many of his picks where really good plays -- anticipation wise and showcasing good hands.

 

I preferred Gonalez because everything being equal I prefer traits at that spot and the dude is a size-speed freak.  He's also a good ball hawk but IMO that is more driven by his hands than anticipation.  Forbes has both the hands and anticipation.

 

My favorite anticipation pick from Forbes is the one against Levis where he anticipated the screen and took it to the house.  As I said on the draft thread yesterday morning, I get the logic of Forbes but would prefer him later in the first.

 

But purely as a player, he's a good one IMO.  My fear about him is its easy to say weight doesn't matter or how hard can it be to gain weight?  But Devonta never fixed the issue.  And as to the Devonta-Forbes comparisons.  Devonta can play off the line if he wants to,  you can work around him being thin easier than you could a CB.   

 

As Baldy said last night, If Forbes is playing zone, Eagles just have to shift AJ Brown in his direction and he'd have no choice but to go head to head with him.   RBs can run in his direction.  It's easier to scheme around size at WR than CB IMO.  So that's the big wildcard for me.

Edited April 28, 2023 by Skinsinparadise

[FuriousD]

Yeah OT or trade back would have been ideal at 16 but s*** happens so…  I was meh on the Forbes pick as well but it does make sense to me.

 

The correlation between turnovers and odds of winning games requires no explanation. Only 5 teams that failed to reach double digits in INT’s last year and guess who was one of them?

 

Rivera clearly saw Forbes and his ball-hawking skills as an impact player capable of immediately improving those numbers and consequently increasing odds of winning in our favor.

 

[Skinsinparadise]

 

 

[Warhead36]

Curl/Forrest/Juice/Forbes gives us a talented young secondary all on rookie contracts too(until Curl gets a new deal).

[D’Pablo]

Why are we using two year old (at least) film of Forbes on Smith? I'd imagine our guy has grown quite a bit since his sophomore year, when he was covering a senior wideout on a stacked team. 

Edited April 28, 2023 by D’Pablo

[CobraCommander]

2023 NFL draft: Mel Kiper's Round 1 winners, reaches, value picks - ESPN

 

• Speaking of, No. 16 overall pick Emmanuel Forbes is another guy I really like. The 6-foot-1, 166-pound cornerback has a slim frame, but he just makes plays -- he had six pick-sixes at Mississippi State, after all. He has phenomenal ball skills.

[AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy]

31 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

Curl/Forrest/Juice/Forbes gives us a talented young secondary all on rookie contracts too(until Curl gets a new deal).

This. You can never have enough talented DBs. Gotta think that lineup gives us some flexibility and also playmaking ability with Forbes and DeFo.

[WilberMarshall]

Welcome to the team.

 

Work hard, learn the playbook, and stay healthy.

[Skinsinparadise]

Plays both man, zone, press, off coverage.

 

In the games of watched, he played a lot of off coverage.  You can see how far back he is from the WR -- with often his eyes on the QB.  And he can close down quickly on the play.  But he positions himself to have good vision on the ball. 

 

 

Edited April 28, 2023 by Skinsinparadise

[MartinC]

3 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

And as to the Devonta-Forbes comparisons.  Devonta can play off the line if he wants to,  you can work around him being thin easier than you could a CB.   

 

Also Devonta doesn't have to tackle anyone - and would likely have not much interest in doing so if he had to! One thing about Forbes is he very willing to tackle, he's not frightened of contact ... but physics is a thing.

[Skinsinparadise]

9 minutes ago, MartinC said:

Also Devonta doesn't have to tackle anyone - and would likely have not much interest in doing so if he had to! One thing about Forbes is he very willing to tackle, he's not frightened of contact ... but physics is a thing.

 

No doubt Forbes is feisty for his size including in the run game.  

 

Against the run from what i've noticed he sometimes will throw his whole body into the tackle which I gather helps him get the most for his size.   He's definitely a willing tackler.  PFF talks up that his weakness is that he is "a mediocre tackler".  I don't know if he's mediocre but I think size limits him.   I don't know how easy he survives tackling that way in the NFL.  But him putting on some weight-muscle IMO is a game changer.

 

Some here seem confident that he can put weight on or it doesn't matter at all.  I don't know if they are right or wrong -- its a wild card to me.   

 

But otherwise, I dig him as a player.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 28, 2023 by Skinsinparadise

[Spaceman Spiff]

 

[Skinsinparadise]

 

 

[RVAskins]

15 hours ago, redskinss said:

I like the pick, reminds me of a poor man's deion sanders.

 

Lets hope he tackles better than Deion.

[50yrSKINSfan]

Don’t hate the pick but I would rather have Gonzo. What bothers me more was the the Jets and us wanted the last OT Jones, and we sat on our hands and let the Steelers swoop in and trade up and take him away from us. After we took Forbes the Pats wasted no time in taking Gonzo. That is why the Steelers and Pats win and we don’t. They take the best players period. Think the Steelers gave up a 4th to trade up. Bargain as they now have a OT for 10 years and a 4th to them is nothing. Good organizations know what to do.

[tmandoug1]

Welcome to the team Mr. Forbes.  Looking forward to seeing you play. 

[MartinC]

31 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Some here seem confident that he can put weight on or it doesn't matter at all.  I don't know if they are right or wrong -- its a wild card to me.   

 

Funny story - when I played (which was a long time ago and clearly not even remotely anything like an NFL strength and conditioning program ) they where concerned I was only 5' 11'" 160 playing QB. They wanted me to put some weight on and put me on a weight gain program. So lots of low rep high (for me) weight work and a weight gain diet. 

 

After a year of that program I had LOST 1 pound. My metabolism and body type just would not let me put weight on. Sadly those days are well behind me ...