The Washington Defensive Line Thread

[Renegade7]

Dline won a game for us nearly by itself. Not overrated anymore, eh?

[justice98]

If these dudes are finding their stride down the stretch, and then go into next season essentially adding a new player in Ioannidis coming back, watch out. 

 

I guess Kerrigan is still kind of an unknown.

[bakedtater1]

13 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

Dline won a game for us nearly by itself. Not overrated anymore, eh?

That wasnt nearly...that was completely 

On 12/10/2020 at 10:09 AM, Malapropismic Depository said:

Truth is, no team can "have it all"

Guarantee all 32 teams are saying, "We really need to fill this position", or "If only we had this player"

It's virtually impossible to have studs everywhere.

Even Super Bowl champions don't.

No matter how good we are, we're always going to wish we had a better player at a certain position.

And it certainly doesn't happen overnight

The best thing to do now, is be thankful how our DL has come together - and be patient.

Excellent stuff here man!

[Renegade7]

9 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said:

That wasnt nearly...that was completely 

 

 

Credit needs to be given to coverage team as well, plus that pick 6 to help make sure we won with pretty much no offense at all. 

[bakedtater1]

45 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

 

Credit needs to be given to coverage team as well, plus that pick 6 to help make sure we won with pretty much no offense at all. 

Very true 

[GoDeep81]

1 hour ago, Warhead36 said:

Nicknames have to be organic. Otherwise they just come across as lame.

Grinch.. 😂

[JSSkinz]

At 5:32 Skip Bayless says our front seven  "is like, Super Bowl good". 

 

 

 

[MisterPinstripe]

Guys. Can you imagine this DL with Matty I if he wasn't hurt? My goodness. 

[dyst]

Last three games, this defensive line has been so much of what we have all wanted. It’s fast, aggressive and intelligent. We’ve been pressuring the QB with practically just the front four. 

[method man]

How bad is Allen's groin injury? Will he be able to play next week? This team does not have depth behind Settle - they've been playing James Smith Williams, a DE, as the 4th DT in the rotation

[bowhunter]

There's a LOT of talent sitting in that D-line. Yes, almost Half of those monsters (Sweat, Payne, Allen, Young, Settle, Ion, Kerrigan) are sitting on the bench any given play. Yet we have a gaping holes in multiple spots, but let's just imagine how good this team could be if we actually had a QB.  If we end up picking around spot 18 in the draft, would you trade any of this talent to move up (to say spot 10) to draft a QB such as Wilson?  Do you trade one of your assets on the bench for another weapon?  Trading Young is off the table, as is Sweat, but IMO if the right trade offer was presented, I'd listen.

[XxSpearheadxX]

2 hours ago, bowhunter said:

 Do you trade one of your assets on the bench for another weapon?  Trading Young is off the table, as is Sweat, but IMO if the right trade offer was presented, I'd listen.

I don't even want to think about that right now. When draft time comes around and combine and stuff we shall see 

[Burgundy Yoda]

3 hours ago, bowhunter said:

There's a LOT of talent sitting in that D-line. Yes, almost Half of those monsters (Sweat, Payne, Allen, Young, Settle, Ion, Kerrigan) are sitting on the bench any given play. Yet we have a gaping holes in multiple spots, but let's just imagine how good this team could be if we actually had a QB.  If we end up picking around spot 18 in the draft, would you trade any of this talent to move up (to say spot 10) to draft a QB such as Wilson?  Do you trade one of your assets on the bench for another weapon?  Trading Young is off the table, as is Sweat, but IMO if the right trade offer was presented, I'd listen.

If the team believes that WIlson is a bonafide stud, no questions asked, then we should toss some draft capital to move up and get him. If they have questions about him, I'd rather them just sit back and let the draft come to them. I'm crossing my fingers we get someone like Dak so we can draft a Darrisaw type OT to protect him. We'd be heavy favorites in the division, especially if we also got a FA WR to make the offense more potent. 

 

As far as trading one of our players, I don't take anything less than a 2nd rounder for any of them. Settle, Ioannidis, Allen, and Payne, all those guys are really good YOUNG players and trading one of them will weaken the defense. Why is our D so good in the 2nd half? Because we can rotate these fresh legs in there. 

Edited December 15, 2020 by Burgundy Yoda

[Koolblue13]

Hey look how good this line is. Let's trade away guys. *facepaln*

[Est.1974]

I think having quality depth is essential. We rely on the rotation, and our aggressive / physical style will lend itself to injuries/layoffs etc. 

[Koolblue13]

That quality depth is a huge reason that our defense is so successful right now. Not sure how to figure out snaps per quarter, but we're able to give a nice rest in the 3rd and bring in fresh guys who are also pretty dang good and it's setting the tone for the second half.

[Skinsinparadise]

I've read and heard beat guys discuss on the radio that the DTs really disliked how the D line coach was teaching them how to change up their game.  And Rivera said they needed to be broken out of their bad habits.  If so in spite of the players supposed reluctance to change it seems to be working. 

 

 

 

[MisterPinstripe]

With how good this DL is I'm now fully on board with spending Bank to get a QB. I'm personally leaning towards a vet, we really just need a top 15 who can make plays. Just don't want to waste this DL next year. And we will have cap space. 

[cakmoney61]

At this time, the best unit in the NFL on either side of the ball is the WFT's defensive line.  I am all ears if there is a better unit (right now).

[cakmoney61]

10 hours ago, bowhunter said:

There's a LOT of talent sitting in that D-line. Yes, almost Half of those monsters (Sweat, Payne, Allen, Young, Settle, Ion, Kerrigan) are sitting on the bench any given play. Yet we have a gaping holes in multiple spots, but let's just imagine how good this team could be if we actually had a QB.  If we end up picking around spot 18 in the draft, would you trade any of this talent to move up (to say spot 10) to draft a QB such as Wilson?  Do you trade one of your assets on the bench for another weapon?  Trading Young is off the table, as is Sweat, but IMO if the right trade offer was presented, I'd listen.

I'm not a fan of trading away proven great to borderline great young talent for a draft pick unless I am absolutely sure we are drafting a "can't miss" QB prospect.  And this is what scouts and coaches get paid to figure out.  

 

ADDED:  I just realized I made back-to-back posts.  My sincerest apologies.

Edited December 15, 2020 by cakmoney61
Added a short paragraph.

[bowhunter]

2 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

That quality depth is a huge reason that our defense is so successful right now. Not sure how to figure out snaps per quarter, but we're able to give a nice rest in the 3rd and bring in fresh guys who are also pretty dang good and it's setting the tone for the second half.

Absolutely and without question, our depth is better than many teams best starter.  Gives me goosebumps just thinking about it. You cannot have too much depth (unless holding onto that depth costs you at  other positions.)  I'm not even advocating that such a trade is in our best interest, but the topic is worthy of consideration. The bookends of Young and Sweat should be untouchable IMO, but at DT there's Payne, Allen, Ion and Settle which is 4 quality starters. It will be tough to pay them all true market value down the road. So if letting one of them go brings you a offense capable of scoring more than 10 points a game, it would be foolhardy not to consider it. 

[CTskin]

Nice to see holcomb in the PFF season long top 10... it always feels like he’s playing great but I wasn’t sure if I had my homer glasses on. What a find... now we need his robin.

 

each week I keep saying “okay nice win, but this game is the real test,” but I mean it this time. If this D can shut down the Seahawks then it’s official... more official than it already is.

[Dark Acre]

I know I say some entertaining shoop here a lot, but (and this ain't entertaining shoop) I still think our single-biggest need is MLB.  We've barely scratched the surface of what our DL can do because what they are doing is handcuffed (or leg-ironed) by not having a good MLB who can play the run and defend the short passing game over the middle.  We can find upgrades at OT and OG in FA or after rd 1 of the draft, and we don't even know how good S'iq Chuck can be (I do get points for being organic even if you don't like the nic).  We can similarly find a blocking TE to replace Sprinkle in FA and we have that WR who got hurt in camp (although maybe his injury will linger) and every year a big-name WR thought he was a WR1 but is a WR2 will get cut because he's not a WR1.  With the right MLB, we don't even need to spend much on the secondary, though FS could use an upgrade (though it's not crucial).

[Mookie Man]

Nickname for the d-line --  The Fabulous Ones

[Commander -JB-]

All them first round picks along that D Line.

 

The Young 1’s.

 

Ha

Edited December 15, 2020 by -JB-