The Washington Defensive Line Thread

[Koolblue13]

18 hours ago, OVCChairman said:

 

 

 

Payne doubled on every one of those plays. We can keep this entire unit together for at least 2 years and if we can add a LBer right behind them, this defense with be JDRs best and that will be something special to see.

[Burgundy Yoda]

Allen has more tackles than any DT in the league. He is elite against the run and seemingly in on every tackle. Kyle and Ron have some difficult decisions to make with this DL. I'd love to keep them as long as possible. 

 

More importantly though, look at the mindset the entire DL has. They love doing the dirty work that's required of the position and they've all adopted the attitude that they will not be outworked or denied. 

 

This type of mindset can run deep in an organization for years. Late rounders like Tim Settle and now JSW have come into our DL culture and have this mindset as well. This isn't by accident, partly its innate for them, but its also now expected when you play here. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by Burgundy Yoda

[wit33]

Do you pay Settle (something similar to what Matt got) and Allen and let Matty Ice walk when deal is done?

[Warhead36]

11 hours ago, wit33 said:

Do you pay Settle (something similar to what Matt got) and Allen and let Matty Ice walk when deal is done?

That might be the smartest play. Ion is under contract until after the 2022 season but he'll be older and will have had some injuries.

[Wyvern]

I'm really impressed with Allen; I think he's more of a leader than the media realizes, mainly because of his personal style of quiet leadership.

 

I think Washington should try to re-sign him.

Edited December 3, 2020 by Wyvern

[madden lot]

Do anyone have a video of when we stopped zeke in the backfield and two of our players had him like we were laying him down for bed?

[SemperFi Skins]

48 minutes ago, madden lot said:

Do anyone have a video of when we stopped zeke in the backfield and two of our players had him like we were laying him down for bed?

 

https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1054339574795853824?s=20

[Spaceman Spiff]

1 hour ago, Wyvern said:

I'm really impressed with Allen; I think he's more of a leader than the media realizes, mainly because of his personal style of quiet leadership.

 

I think Washington should try to re-sign him.

 

Allen isn't quiet.  In fact, he's very vocal.   The media views him as a leader, they surround him in the lockerroom.

 

 

[madden lot]

36 minutes ago, SemperFi Skins said:

 

https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1054339574795853824?s=20

The one I'm referring to is from the Thanksgiving game. 

[carex]

12 minutes ago, madden lot said:

The one I'm referring to is from the Thanksgiving game. 

 

you talking about the play after the interception where he's actually picked up?

[Koolblue13]

There's a reason Young immediately checked in with Allen after RR. He's the leader of the team and a crucial building block. 

[wit33]

Keep the big boys together and wait to make decisions until Young and Sweat are due for extensions. 
 

Wonder how much influence Rivera had with the overall philosophy being to pay the big boys and let corners walk when in Carolina? I’m okay with getting the elite athlete veteran corner on a cheap deal (Darby), then letting them get paid elsewhere. This coupled with investing In young dudes in the draft. 
 

Let this be a place where corners want to come to resurrect their value and get paid elsewhere the following year. 

[Koolblue13]

2 hours ago, wit33 said:

Keep the big boys together and wait to make decisions until Young and Sweat are due for extensions. 
 

Wonder how much influence Rivera had with the overall philosophy being to pay the big boys and let corners walk when in Carolina? I’m okay with getting the elite athlete veteran corner on a cheap deal (Darby), then letting them get paid elsewhere. This coupled with investing In young dudes in the draft. 
 

Let this be a place where corners want to come to resurrect their value and get paid elsewhere the following year. 

Nothing better for a struggling CB than a one year deal behind a Dline like ours.

[wit33]

2 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

Nothing better for a struggling CB than a one year deal behind a Dline like ours.

 
Exaclty. Especially one with great pedigree and elite size and athleticism. These bargains exist every year. 
 

No way I pay Darby. I think he’s been great this year. 

[Koolblue13]

16 minutes ago, wit33 said:

 
Exaclty. Especially one with great pedigree and elite size and athleticism. These bargains exist every year. 
 

No way I pay Darby. I think he’s been great this year. 

He's a perfect example. It depends how much he wants, but he has been very good for us. 

[skinny21]

4 hours ago, wit33 said:

 
Exaclty. Especially one with great pedigree and elite size and athleticism. These bargains exist every year. 
 

No way I pay Darby. I think he’s been great this year. 

I know it’s not, but the bold part comes across as sarcasm - a corner with (great) pedigree, (elite) size, and athleticism at a bargain rate doesn’t seem... usual.  
 

Don’t mind the premise though - we can likely pick up a decent corner to replace Darby and save that money for re-signing our fat boys.  

[Always A Commander Never A Captain]

On 12/1/2020 at 7:38 AM, Koolblue13 said:

Payne doubled on every one of those plays. We can keep this entire unit together for at least 2 years and if we can add a LBer right behind them, this defense with be JDRs best and that will be something special to see.

 

Alternatively, Payne uses the same move every time.  Center knows that's an easy avenue to help as Payne will be coming towards him.

 

I know this is a tiny sample size that isn't indicative of who Payne is as a pass rusher...but where's the bull rush?

[madden lot]

9 hours ago, carex said:

 

you talking about the play after the interception where he's actually picked up?

Yes. Right after the whistle two of our players held him horizontal in their amrs. It was supa funny.

[carex]

29 minutes ago, madden lot said:

Yes. Right after the whistle two of our players held him horizontal in their amrs. It was supa funny.

 

yeah, I thought that would be everywhere, but even on the NFL highlights it's the one play from that drive they cut.

[OVCChairman]

This DB talk has me thinking, and don't get me wrong, I 100% am happy we made the move to get out of the Josh Norman project, but THIS defense is the type of defense that he thrived in with Carolina... Zone coverage, eyes in the backfield with a good pass rush.  He was never meant to be put on an island... he doesn't have the speed for it.

 

Not saying I want him back, we overpaid, but we also didn't use him correctly.  Had he been in THIS defense for 4 years, I think the opinions of him are different. 

[JSSkinz]

 

[Est.1974]

Got to keep them together next season. Same old message, invest at LB and add a DB. Much of the same next year.

[carex]

with the cap situation and the fact he's already had one good free agent contract he didn't live up to I'm not sure Darby would be in super huge demand

[Warhead36]

5 hours ago, JSSkinz said:

 

RZ D is definitely the one thing I am most impressed with. In years past we always gave up TDs but this year we've been pretty lockdown.

 

Now just gotta do better at getting off the field on 3rd downs. I feel like we're still really bad in that area.

[Anselmheifer]

It’s crazy to think how good this DL could be next year. Chase young in his second year. Montez Sweat in his 3rd. Getting back Ioannidis. I mean, they could be scary scary good.