Larry Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Ummmm...not sure where to stick this one. His comments make me want to Sarah Huckabee Sanders. "Flush"? They go down the hole just fine, for me. And keep your speculation on where to stick this one to yourself. Edited March 21, 2020 by Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, JetsettingRedskin said: I hate to even ask this question (and I am not being a smart aleck, genuinely asking the questions): Didn’t the virus start in Wuhan? Based on current info, yes. The argument is that we don't or shouldn't call out a specific nationality when naming epidemics. See poorly named Spanish Flu that didnt originate in Spain. See MERS that names a region and not a specific nationality, etc Edit...additionally in a time where the GOP has intentionally played the race card over and over to fan the flames of angry white old people to get them to vote maga.. Edited March 21, 2020 by The Evil Genius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Glorious leader has spoken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 He’s gonna kill people 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skintime Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Llevron said: He’s gonna kill people He already has and is. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, JetsettingRedskin said: I hate to even ask this question (and I am not being a smart aleck, genuinely asking the questions): Didn’t the virus start in Wuhan? Somebody posted something a day or two ago, that kinda implied that maybe Italy had a few cases, earlier. Just didn't know what it was. Different kind of pneumonia. But yeah, I think the consensus right now is that Wuhan was the first outbreak. Actually, my grandmother was Dutch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 hour ago, StillUnknown said: i dont know how you fight willful stupidity. that terrifies me far more than corona That's a fight we lost a long time ago, really... 3 hours ago, LD0506 said: Alex Schiller Wow we've had the 7th highest count of Covid-19 cases for a while. Then we passed France a few days ago. We just passed Iran a few minutes ago. We'll overtake Germany by Saturday night, then it's on to face Spain in the semi-finals Monday. Italy and China are battling it out on the other side of the bracket with China stuck on 80k. Italy should pass them on Thursday. The finals matchup between the U.S. and Italy in two weeks should be pretty epic. All the stats I'm looking at says it'll be #AmericaFirst, but it really is anyone's game. #MarchMadness Hey!! Watch out, we're only testing people that we think have it. So our numbers are probably way, way, way below reality you know! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wildbunny said: Hey!! Watch out, we're only testing people that we think have it. So our numbers are probably way, way, way below reality you know! We got a ****load of people stashed on IR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 They are now limiting testing in LA and NYC if the testing will not change course of treatment. In other words, our supplies are running out. What a mess. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 Does Mountain Dew have antiviral effects? Couple are furious when told they’re not allowed to buy 552 CANS of Mountain Dew due to coronavirus rationing at Kroger store in Kentucky Click on the link for the full article and video 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purbeast Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I just realized how concentrated the cases in the USA are. I hadn't really looked at the map until now and didn't realize that like 90% of the cases are in 4 states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 Rich and Powerful Jump to the Front of Line for Tests Nervous basketball stars on a cross-country flight hatched plans to get access to scarce coronavirus tests. The New York and Hamptons elite called in favors to grab medical care. Across the country, ventilator makers fielded calls from people who didn’t care about prices. As the deadly Covid-19 outbreak spread across the U.S., millions of Americans were forced to choose between losing paychecks or showing up at work despite the health risk. The rich, powerful and connected spent the first 10 days of the pandemic living another reality. Coronavirus didn’t invent the gulf between the rich and everyone else, it has just exposed gaps that were already there. In the past two weeks, the sick tried and failed to get tested, the nervous watched their retirement savings shrivel, and thousands have already lost their jobs. Money and power, however, have been tickets to comfort and protection. “The coronavirus loves the inequitable health-care system that we’ve got,” said Arthur Caplan, who directs the NYU Grossman School of Medicine’s program in medical ethics. “The 1% can pull strings,” he said, while millions of people can’t get tested: “It’s wrong, but it’s true.” Click on the link for the full article 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: More convinced than ever that twa is a Huckabee. I'm a city boy, we use unmatched socks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 48 minutes ago, Larry said: Somebody posted something a day or two ago, that kinda implied that maybe Italy had a few cases, earlier. Just didn't know what it was. Different kind of pneumonia. But yeah, I think the consensus right now is that Wuhan was the first outbreak. somethings that might explain Italy early cases https://www.rebellionresearch.com/blog/northern-italy-wuhan-partners-for-better-or-worse at a minimum travel patterns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jumbo Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 https://www.yahoo.com/news/congress-toils-1-trillion-rescue-045600682.html Congress toils on $1 trillion rescue, Trump unleashes fury WASHINGTON (AP) — Quote Negotiators from Congress and the White House, narrowing differences on a sweeping $1 trillion-plus economic rescue package, were set to resume top-level talks Saturday after President Donald Trump unleashed fury on those questioning his handling of the coronavirus outbreak. It was an extraordinary moment in Washington: Congress undertaking the most ambitious federal effort yet to shore up households and the U.S. economy and an angry president lashing out at all comers. All while the global pandemic and its nationwide shutdown grip an anxious, isolated population bracing for a healthcare crisis and looming recession. When one reporter asked Trump what he would tell a worried nation, the president snapped, “I say that you’re a terrible reporter.” Despite the enormous pressure on Washington to swiftly act, the challenges are apparent. On Capitol Hill, lawmakers and administration officials labored late into the evening over eye-popping sums and striking federal interventions, surpassing even the 2008-09 bank bailout and stimulus. "Everybody is working very hard,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said, exiting one closed-door session and heading into another. While key negotiators said they made progress during the daylong talks, they failed to hit an end-of-day deadline to strike a deal. Talks broke around 10:30 p.m. Mnuchin launched negotiations with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer and senators from both parties using McConnell's GOP offer as a starting point. “Our nation needs a major next step, and we need it fast,” McConnell said earlier in the day to an empty chamber, the iconic U.S. Capitol closed to visitors. Preliminary Senate votes are set for Sunday. McConnell said the goal is passage by Monday. But Mnuchin also conferred privately Friday with Schumer and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as the two leaders pressed for Democratic priorities. Pelosi late Friday called the GOP plan a “non-starter.” At one point, Schumer told reporters, “We're making good progress.” But Schumer acknowledged trying to wrap up "tonight is hard.” The GOP plan aims to pump billions into $1,200 direct checks to Americans and billions to small businesses to pay idled workers during the global pandemic. But Democrats say McConnell's plan is insufficient, arguing for greater income support for workers and a “Marshall Plan” for the U.S. healthcare industry, which is preparing for an onslaught of newly sick patients. At the White House, Trump welcomed the stimulus plan, believing it is needed to stabilize the economy. But Trump spent much of Friday's daily briefing in a fury, an angry president lashing out at reporters' questions. At times, he seemed to refuse to want to hear the reality of an increasingly dire situation. It was when one reporter noted the hard facts in the U.S. — that more than 200 are dead, more than 14,000 infected and millions scared — that he snapped back. Trump also sowed further confusion about whether he is using the powers of the Defense Production Act to force American businesses to manufacture needed medical supplies. In Friday phone calls with Trump, Schumer said he specifically implored the president to invoke the Korean War-era act to ramp up production of desperately needed ventilators and other gear. Trump told the Democratic leader he would do it — and then Schumer said the president could be heard yelling to someone in his office “get it done." But Trump told reporters he had put the order he invoked Wednesday “into gear” Thursday night. He said he had directed companies to launch production. But then he walked it back, saying, “You know, so far, we haven't had to” because companies are volunteering. The administration also announced a further closing of the nation’s border, as the U.S. and Mexico agreed to limit crossings to all but essential travel and trade, while the U.S. moved to restrict entry to anyone without documentation. Later Friday, the White House said a member of Vice President Mike Pence’s staff had tested positive for the new coronavirus. Pence spokeswoman Katie Miller said the staff member, who is not being identified, did not have “close contact” either the vice president or Trump. Unveiled Thursday, McConnell's rescue proposal from Republicans builds on Trump's request for Congress to “go big.” The GOP plan proposes $300 billion for small businesses to keep idled workers on payroll and $208 billion in loans to airlines and other industries. It also seeks to relax a just-enacted family and medical leave mandate on small to medium-sized businesses from an earlier rescue package. It puts McConnell's imprint on the GOP approach after the Senate leader left earlier negotiations to Pelosi and Mnuchin, which angered some of his GOP senators feeling cut out of the final product. Keeping paychecks flowing for workers not at work is a top priority for both Democrats and Republicans as jobless claims skyrocket. But how best to send direct payments to Americans — as one-time stipends, ongoing payroll support or unemployment checks — is a crucial debate. Under McConnell's approach, small businesses with 500 or fewer employees would be able to tap up to $10 million in forgivable loans from the federal government to continue cutting paychecks. Democrats prefer sending the money to workers via the existing unemployment insurance system. Schumer called it “unemployment insurance on steroids.” Both income support approaches have benefits and drawbacks, lawmakers said. Republicans say their plan would keep workers linked to employers, for easy recall once the crisis abates. Democrats argue the unemployment system provides a ready-made distribution channel, though states could also become overwhelmed by the surge of jobless claims. Meanwhile, industries of all kinds are lining up for help. As the Senate chairmen hammered out the details — and House chairmen funneled their input — the total price tag is sure to grow beyond $1 trillion, lawmakers said. The House, which adjourned last weekend, is not expected to resume until the new package is ready. Lawmakers on conference calls with leaders this week said they preferred not to board airplanes amid the virus outbreak. Despite calls to change the rules, Congress does not have a mechanism in place for remote voting. Trump has already signed into law a $100 billion-plus bill to boost testing for the coronavirus and guarantee paid sick leave for millions of workers hit by it. Earlier, Trump signed an initial $8.3 billion package from Congress. For most people, the new coronavirus causes only mild or moderate symptoms, such as fever and cough. For some, especially older adults and people with existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia. The vast majority of people recover from the new virus. According to the World Health Organization, people with mild illness recover in about two weeks, while those with more severe illness may take three to six weeks to recover. ___ Associated Press writers Jill Colvin, Darlene Superville, Matthew Daly, Mary Clare Jalonick, Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Alan Fram and Padmananda Rama in Washington contributed to this report. ___ The Associated Press receives support for health and science coverage from the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Department of Science Education. The AP is solely responsible for all content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said: They are now limiting testing in LA and NYC if the testing will not change course of treatment. In other words, our supplies are running out. What a mess. Friggin wimpy liberal states need supply handouts. We’re making our own ventilators out of our bootstraps and corn cobs down here in the rural south. Edited March 21, 2020 by Sacks 'n' Stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skintime said: He already has and is. Hydroxychloroquine is already on backorder. People who use it to treat their lupus are getting screwed Edited March 21, 2020 by Cooked Crack 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) (Smart thermometers reporting higher temperatures in Florida.) Just pointing out, highs have been 80-90 last week. After being much lower. (I'm in North Central Florida.) Edited March 21, 2020 by Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Larry said: (Smart thermometers reporting higher temperatures in Florida.) Just pointing out, highs have been 80-90 last week. After being much lower. (I'm in North Central Florida.) Certainly looks like the most likely explanation given what we know about case counts in nyc vs Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twa Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Can Hydroxychloroquine be Used to Treat Coronavirus? https://www.rebellionresearch.com/blog/can-hydroxychloroquine-be-used-to-treat-coronavirus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skintime Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) The guy in the Florida meeting is who we need instead of trump. Edited March 21, 2020 by Skintime 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 For any dummies out there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, spjunkies said: For any dummies out there. . . . it also won't mean that it is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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