Skins24 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, LetsBCooley said: I'm so mixed on these trades of Young/Sweat. I kind of understand the expense to keep them after this season, but Jack@ss Del Rio and his D system need to go first! Even if we drafted the #1 pick in the draft, being a position on the D-side, Jack@ss would still screw it up! There is 0 chance Del Rio is here next season. It's not even a remote possibility. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Spiers Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I agree with this trade because Chase was underwhelming but it's sad because I think Chase will be a force with the Niners and a terror to Washington every time they play. I know he was a bust here but I think the Niners will know how to use him. But had to be done, I'm happy with the large number of draft picks coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, Skins24 said: There is 0 chance Del Rio is here next season. It's not even a remote possibility. I'd be shocked if Del Rio or Rivera coaches again after this year. Both are ancient dinosaurs that the game has passed by. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 The love for Rak is amusing to me I always thought he was better than the fans gave him credit for, I too saw all the uncalled holding penalties when so many fans saw it as an excuse Most fans have always downplayed how well he played here, I guess because they were expecting more as we all were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) I expect the 49ers will give Chase a “you aint ish” talk on his first day. Chase might not even get snaps on that team. Edited October 31, 2023 by Leonard Washington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skintime Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Maxito said: I'm sure Howell is not in favor of this move. Will be seeing the 49ers in week 17! All Young will do is run by him as always 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvernon Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I was one of maybe three who wanted Herbert in that draft. Good riddance, I say #Vindicated 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 When are we closing this thread??? He's not a Commie now, he's not one of us no mo'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 May the seas be kind and the wind forever in your dreads, Chase. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skins24 said: There is 0 chance Del Rio is here next season. It's not even a remote possibility. Honestly, he should’ve been fired long ago. I don’t know why we let him hang around, him being the very obvious ****ing moron that he is. When you let somebody that you know is a complete ****ing dip**** be in charge of your defense, don’t be surprised when they are ranked 31st out of 32 despite the fact that you’ve shot your wad allocating resources to that side of the ball. **** that mother****er. Edited October 31, 2023 by Sacks 'n' Stuff 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToaCommander Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 We got a 3rd round pick for C Young. F our Front Office is incompetent. Rivera is good as gone. We traded Trent Williams to SF for peanuts and now we trade Young to SF for a F 3rd round pick. We traded both our TOP DEs and we now need to draft 2 more in the coming years. Man I'm depressed, the season hasn't been going well but at least we had 2 very good DEs of which we could keep one and trade 1. Now we have Obada and what have you as our DEs going forward. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Chase- don't let the door hit you on the way out of the locker room on your way to SFO. If you don't perform for Shanny he will tell you what NFL stands for: Not For Long. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, ToaCommander said: We got a 3rd round pick for C Young. F our Front Office is incompetent. Rivera is good as gone. We traded Trent Williams to SF for peanuts and now we trade Young to SF for a F 3rd round pick. We traded both our TOP DEs and we now need to draft 2 more in the coming years. Man I'm depressed, the season hasn't been going well but at least we had 2 very good DEs of which we could keep one and trade 1. Now we have Obada and what have you as our DEs going forward. As opposed to what, letting them leave and getting nothing? Overpaying to keep them? I wanted Young to be good so badly, but he wasn't. They did it right, get something for two expiring contracts that were not great players. They saw them for who they are, not who they wished they were. 4 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Riggo#44 said: They saw them for who they are, not who they wished they were. Chase was a sword in a field. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) What I'm curious about is who negotiated and pulled the trigger on the trades. Trading half our D-Line for draft picks is admitting the season is over. Which is the right choice, but a not a choice I'd expect from a coach and front office who have 2 months to try to prove they shouldn't be jobless. Edited October 31, 2023 by NickyJ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Saw this vid before the trade today. There's playing a "contain Hurts" assignment, but I've been seeing this type of effort all year. Edited November 1, 2023 by CRobi21 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cboatner Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Chase's father called into a podcast and said that Chase is 6'7", "I'm 6'9" and he almost looks me in the eye" he said. Online stats indicate his height is 6'5".....He IS tall, plays tall (high center of gravity). How tall is he really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, cboatner said: Chase's father called into a podcast and said that Chase is 6'7", "I'm 6'9" and he almost looks me in the eye" he said. Online stats indicate his height is 6'5".....He IS tall, plays tall (high center of gravity). How tall is he really? Obviously not Anthony Mix tall 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 defense as a whole and the defensive line performed better when Chase was hurt. Chase is a good guy, but hes not the generational talent we were sold on. Who started that **** anyways? his dad mabye? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Shazam83 said: If Sweat got a 2nd from the Bears (who will draft so early in the 2nd it's basically a 1st), Young should have gotten more than a 3rd from the 9ers (who will draft so late in the 3rd it's basically a 4th). That being said, I'm glad the team is trading marginal players for draft picks now because under Snyder it was trading draft picks for marginal players How do you figure they should have gotten more? Do you think they didn't take the best offer? People are only worth what you can get for them. Young has a significant injury history and he's playing well this year, but it is also a contract year. People are going to be worried about giving him a big contract, and if you are good team like the 49ers that almost certainly means you're near the top of the cap. Which makes signing him long term is even that much harder. (Looking project cap next year is $256 million. They have $280 million on the books before Young. They need to cut $14 million just based on who they had before they traded for Young. And resigning Young to a big contract (which he'll want if he finishes the year healthy and playing well) means cutting that much more. And most good teams that would be interested him at this point are in the same situation.) People thought he was worth more aren't taking into account his injury history, his playing history beyond this year, and what he's likely going to want for salary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, NickyJ said: What I'm curious about is who negotiated and pulled the trigger on the trades. Trading half our D-Line for draft picks is admitting the season is over. Which is the right choice, but a not a choice I'd expect from a coach and front office who have 2 months to try to prove they shouldn't be jobless. Here's the thing... I don't know if it is admitting that. I think it's admitting that we weren't probably going to re-sign either of them... But, I know some folks think I'm crazy... I think our defensive end play is going to improve and you're going to see a noticeable difference in the defense minus Sweat and Young. Moreso Young than Sweat, as Sweat had improved his contain/run discipline a good portion (though he still did it a few times this year). Toohill, JSW and the rookies should be more than okay as schematic players... and Toohill is actually a pretty decent pass rusher. We also can't just rely on the front four anymore. We started to see more blitzing last week. I would hope that trend continues. Allowing Jamin Davis to pass rush is a major win for us, too. We'll see what happens, but I honestly think we have potential to be better now... as crazy as it sounds. (For the record, I think 99 is going to do well in SF and Sweat will bring some semblance of a pass rush to Chicago) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Xameil said: Obviously not Anthony Mix tall Now we know why we let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, LetThePointsSoar said: Someone smarter than me, please help it make sense. We traded the #2 overall pick for essentially the same thing we would have received had we lost him to free agency. You don't get comp. picks for a player. You get comp. picks based on total dollars out vs. total dollars in in terms of contracts. We'll be pretty far under the cap at the end of the season and we might have quite a few dollars coming in in terms of contract space. And there's no guarantee that Chase Young is going to get a big contract to off set we can spend to bring in. What happens if he tears his ACL in the next game? Even if stays healthy what if he just sort of checks out and plays pretty lackadaisical? This gives you flexibility to sign who you want for what works for you under the cap without worrying about comp. picks and locks you into a certain value for sure vs. playing out the rest of year hoping he stays healthy and keeps playing pretty well. And if we want him at the end of the year, there is a pretty good chance we'll actually be able to sign him as FA. There's no lock that he's going to sign a long term contract with the 49ers before FA opens. You might get a 3rd pick for essentially giving up as a rental if the FO really values him. (And given the 49ers cap situation, I'd say it is actually pretty unlikely they sign him to a big long term contract.) Edited November 1, 2023 by PeterMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan66 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, NickyJ said: What I'm curious about is who negotiated and pulled the trigger on the trades. Trading half our D-Line for draft picks is admitting the season is over. Which is the right choice, but a not a choice I'd expect from a coach and front office who have 2 months to try to prove they shouldn't be jobless. This says it all about Ron and the office, I had to laugh. A+ anyway on trades. Edited November 1, 2023 by skinsfan66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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