Peregrine Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I absolutely love how Trent has found the one way to screw the two guys who have spent their lives screwing everyone else, and you should love that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Darrell Green Fan said: I have no idea what to think anymore. All I know is the fans are screwed. Again. The best player on our team has not played and will be traded for dimes on a dollar and we will never know why. Well we do know why we'll get traded dimes on a dollar. That is all on Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 hours ago, ananoman said: https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/5/redskins-missed-lesson-nationals-handling-stephen-/ Isnt that how the FO is trying to handle Haskins? i.e. ease him into the starting lineup, and not rush it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreZorn Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, Skin'emAlive said: Isnt that how the FO is trying to handle Haskins? i.e. ease him into the starting lineup, and not rush it. The funny thing about that article is I vividly remember the uproar going on as it was happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfrankie Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 48 minutes ago, Skin'emAlive said: Isnt that how the FO is trying to handle Haskins? i.e. ease him into the starting lineup, and not rush it. Yeah, but Haskins' arm has not already fallen off once before, which is why the Nats were cautious with Stras in 2012 after his TJ surgery. It was not a matter of easing him into a role as a starting pitcher. Edit: The above being said, I do understand the desire to not have Haskins' broken into 5 different pieces (as opposed to just his arm falling off), which is about a 50/50 proposition with the Redskins offense. But if that is to happen, better sooner rather than later, so play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbias Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 This is sort of off topic, but I think NFLPA will start to get some load management built into their contracts. For example, if a RB is goes a season with more than 40% of the offensive touches his contract becomes fully guaranteed. Teams will then have to balance their play calling with the contracts they have signed and possibly having guys be healthy scratches if they are getting close to those load management clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veryoldschool Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Snyder has owned the team for 20 years you would think he would have learned along the way that he needs to provide the sort of environment that players are attracted to instead of relying on contracts and League rules to require disaffected players to stay with the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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justice98 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 How does a GM, any GM, survive this. There is no way to spin this as anything but a complete failure. Just a total facepalm, all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I mean, what did we think was gonna happen?? This was clear the moment he reported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Allows them not to pay him if they choose no need for the 'if' in that statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Note to current players on the team who were in Williams corner-- no one crosses the Danny and the Prince of Darkness and then gets away with it. Fans will be more upset next Spring if we do not get decent trade value for Williams. This year if we had traded him we possibly could have had a first round draft choice according to some football pundits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, justice98 said: How does a GM, any GM, survive this. There is no way to spin this as anything but a complete failure. Just a total facepalm, all around. The wild card is the off season, most who cover the team think they squandered the opportunity to get max value for Trent. I guess we will find out this off season what they can generate for Trent. If Bruce somehow pulls off a first or a 2nd and change deal then hey it was a bumpy ride but at least they landed something decent. If not I agree with Grant Paulsen who likes to say this is Bruce's Mona Lisa in the mix of his other mishandlings. ...That means the team can keep Williams off the active roster without releasing him and have the option to withhold full payment of his 2019 contract at their own discretion. The NFI list also might be a tool to not have the 2019 season toll on Williams’ contract, but any movement of that sort by the Redskins would likely be challenged by the NFL Players' Association. Williams reported to the Redskins hours before the NFL Trade Deadline hit on October 29th, ending a months-long holdout that caused him to miss eight games in the process. Whatever goodwill Williams’ arrival to the team’s Ashburn headquarters brought quickly dissipated when the seven-time Pro Bowler failed a physical due to discomfort putting on a helmet. Things got worse once Williams finally addressed the media, the first time he’s spoken publicly since the holdout began over the summer. In a nearly 20-minute session taking questions from reporters, Williams explained that he felt he had been misdiagnosed by Washington’s medical staff and that “there’s no trust” with the organization. Various reports later provided different accounts of what Williams' claimed, but the damage was already done. In the last year, Williams was diagnosed with DFSP, a rare type of cancer that could be life-threatening. He was treated and is now cancer-free, but the ordeal changed his view of the Redskins, Williams explained. Sources also told NBC Sports Washington that despite returning to the team Williams would never play for the Redskins again. That came before the failed physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 This is turning into Bruce's Swinging Gate moment that got Vinny fired. We coulda got a first rounder, maybe two, now Snyder has this guy on his roster that wont play and likely does the same thing next year before leaving as a free agent. It doesnt matter if Trent is dead wrong anymore, Bruce is losing, badly. If Trent somehow counts this as a league year without NFLPA insetigsting his claims, hell do this again next year, guaran-f'n-teed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 40 minutes ago, justice98 said: How does a GM, any GM, survive this. There is no way to spin this as anything but a complete failure. Just a total facepalm, all around. Because Danny probably likes the hard ball tactic and sees this as winning if inmates (players) don't run the asylum. See Lavy Coles TV statement from years back. Napoleon Complex boy won't be pushed around by serfs, and in this case the serfs are multi-millionaires which still means nothing to his arrogant ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, RabidFan said: Because Danny probably likes the hard ball tactic and sees this as winning if inmates (players) don't run the asylum. I could see that. But not with Trent Williams. Be it anybody a star player from this team. I could see Dan agree. But not when you're doing this with his toys. Now the whole NFL knows what's worth to trade for Trent Williams: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 This whole saga is just stupid. Should have just traded him...or paid him more money (which I do think is a motivating factor in all of this.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Do we get the whole 12.5m of Williams cap back?. And will it roll into 2020 season when he is due 14.5m. Is it right cap specialist if we trade Williams in the off-season we will have 27m more cap space than we would have had if Williams had played this year and next. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, justice98 said: How does a GM, any GM, survive this. There is no way to spin this as anything but a complete failure. Just a total facepalm, all around. We definitely could have got Cleveland's first early in the year. That pick would have turned out to be a very high one. But hey, Bruce really showed Trent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseCommander Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 This could be very damaging to a already damaged franchise. Nobody will want to come here. I mean that was already the case but this make so much worse. BA is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I bet Bruce is trying to stoke up the ole... "getting a third round compensatory pick" is great schtick! To blow the relationship and get basically nothing for Kirk and then two years later turnaround and blow it by completely misreading the situation is more than a firable offense. It's a never hire this guy again offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I can feel that final fan stage coming on. Irritation- to anger - to rage and then more rage, then hey there really is nothing I can do about it - maybe I shouldn't get so worked up over this and then finally the slip into the I don't care anymore category (Fan death). Not there yet but I may have entered the there is nothing I can do stage - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I have to hand it to Bruce and Dan, they don't give a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreZorn Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Pure stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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