HardcoreZorn

Best drafted Redskins receiver in my lifetime. And I don’t feel slightly close to being hyperbolic after just 5 games. He’s going to be a top 10 guy at the very least and opens up what will most likely be a very high first rounder to use on OL (my preference). Trade Trent and you could end up with a WR/OL combo in the first to go with Love Mclaurin Haskins and Harmon. A fast turn around like San Fran this year, and the Rams a few years ago is quite achievable.

Agree on all counts!

Only thing keeping me sane with the Guice news is McLaurin’s awesomeness lol. Probably just jinxed him!

I think Harmon and Mclaurin become DJax/Garçon. Not this year maybe but in time.

The only thing making me go hmmm is how badly you are missing the point. That same team with a better coach, QB, and overall organization endured three straight 7-9 seasons and another one 2 years before that. Meaning they aren’t that dissimilar to our performance the past 4 years. But that wasn’t even the main point I was trying to make. The point was that just because two different eras of Saints football (Saints in the ‘90s and the current Saints we know today) have stretches of years of losing records, doesn’t at all mean that one team wasn’t more poised to have better long term success than the other. The Golden State Warriors prior to the 2012 season had 15 losing seasons out of 17, some years they were downright horrific. I’m surprised they ever got good at basketball. The Rams prior to McVay hadn’t been to the playoffs since 2002. They weren’t exactly the model franchise of the 2000’s and spent the better half of 2 decades with top 10 draft picks. I could sit here all day and come up of examples of teams that endured tremendously long poor stretches in their franchise history only to finally turn a corner. The point is just because we were 7-9 with Spurrier in 2002 doesn’t mean we should act like this franchise is on the same path today just because they have had a couple 7-9 seasons in a row. And just because a team has been bad for a long time doesn’t mean that will always remain the case.

The Saints went 7-9 for 3 straight seasons and four out of five with Sean Payton as head coach. Are they really even a good team? Are the current Saints really any better than the Saints team that had seven years in a row with a losing record in the 90’s?

That is mortifying! I think it’s a good example of how far we’ve come tbh.

Gut tells me we trade Doctson for a 5th, keep Richardson McLaurin Quinn Harmon Davis and Steve Sims.

This is exactly where I stand. It's crazy risky but Jay has to win this year and needs to select the best players to do so, previous production be damned. This is the group that excites me and scares me the most lol.

Kind of tend to agree. There’s something so incredibly odd about him only playing one snap last week and I’ve never ever heard gruden discuss a rookie the way he does McLaurin. And the beat guys ALL agree and have said not only is he one of the top rookies but top players. Stoked to watch him.

Special teams is a critical part of winning games in the NFL and if you have a chance to grab one of the best STs in the mid rounds that’s not a terrible thing. But I don’t think Hoffman meant they viewed him as a STer only, rather they thought they were getting a Bonafide stud on teams and a pass catcher. They didn’t realize he was this good as a WR, and if they had they probably target him even earlier.

I’ve been beating this drum for the last year and a half but our drafts the past three seasons have been uncharacteristically good when you look around league wide. I mean we’re realistically looking at 5 potential starters or role players in McLaurin Martin Holcomb and Moreland and Sweat. Doesn’t even count our first pick and the guy we hopefully can develop as QBOTF. The two drafts before this bear similar results as far as guys we are counting on to contribute. There’s still an awful lot of unknown and projection but the skins are a draft pipeline right now, something I never thought I’d see with Snyder. I’ll always remember the years with 3 picks and using them to draft nobodies like Dallas Sartz. And its a league that you NEED to draft extremely well just from a cap management standpoint, now more than ever.

Man I keep thinking would could have been on the defensive side of the ball had R Foster not gone down. But pleasantly surprised with the addition of Bostic and hearing about SDH and Holcomb. Hopefully some much needed speed can’t wait to watch Holcomb on thursday

I remember thinking he looked really good in that pre season game against New England last year, had a few catches. It's just pre season but you could tell he looked talented and I remember also reading how devastated Ike Hilliard was having him go down because he expected big things. Doesn't mean he will be anything but I certainly think the guy has the talent to play.

Doctson disappearing is certainly discouraging, but yeah not ready to pull the plug yet. His 45% catch rate from last year is not super indicative of his ability to catch the football, when you consider the types of balls he was seeing last year. Pryor for example had some really egregious drops, and I didn’t feel that was the case with Doc. This year he just hasn’t been heavily featured, but I don’t know if that’s the type of offense we even are going for. There’s a lot of mouths to feed, and AD, Thompson, and Reed are our guys right now.