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  1. 1. Should Donald Trump be impeached for obstruction of justice?



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11 hours ago, tshile said:

Um

i find just those two articles of impeachment underwhelming

 

i don’t know why

 

i guess I always figured because removal wasn’t figured to not even be possible, they’d throw as much at him to just make the R votes look as bad as possible. 

 

Because there probably should be 3 times as many as that, on merit.

 

And also because these articles wont sway the public much.  Obstruction of Congress feels like Congress' problem. Like, I cant see  the American people getting too worked up over that.

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I do not find it surprising that the Dems are doing this in the worst way possible.  I sometimes wonder if they don't WANT another Trump presidency.   Because they sure suck at pointing out how bad he and the GOP are.

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19 minutes ago, Burgold said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewHiller/status/1204405963043876865

 

I’d really love the term IMPOTUS to become a thing  it works on so many levels: impotent, impostor, etc. 

I think it's pretty clever, but clever is lost on Trumpers.   

 

The one that really gets them is Cheeto.  It's a live by the sword die by the sword thing.  Their swords are childish put downs and a masterful parry with a fencing sword is always crushed by a swing of a two handed long sword, at least in their eyes.

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1 hour ago, justice98 said:

 

Because there probably should be 3 times as many as that, on merit.

 

And also because these articles wont away the public much.  Obstruction of Congress feels like Congress' problem. Like, I cant see  the American people getting too worked up over that.

 

Yeah.... so my thought was that the plan was to drop the hammer. Everything. If people don't change their minds, fine but at least you tried. If the senate doesn't convict, fine at least you tried.

 

This feels like they half-assed it and have created a situation where the house will vote to impeach, the senate will not vote to convict, and too many people will be allowed to shrug the whole thing off because ultimately the charges were weak.

 

Maybe i'm reading it all wrong. Feels like a complete waste at this point. I expected a laundry list of things...

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1 hour ago, justice98 said:

 

Because there probably should be 3 times as many as that, on merit.

 

And also because these articles wont sway the public much.  Obstruction of Congress feels like Congress' problem. Like, I cant see  the American people getting too worked up over that.

Just have them imagine Hillary refusing to testify about Benghazi because of Executive Privilege.

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8 minutes ago, tshile said:

Maybe i'm reading it all wrong. Feels like a complete waste at this point. I expected a laundry list of things...

I agree with you.  I could see doing just these two articles and doing like 500 "charges" of each.  But based solely off what they submitted, I don't know that I would even vote to remove (assuming the charges were blindly against "person A" and I didn't know all the other **** about him).

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6 minutes ago, RedskinsFan44 said:

Just have them imagine Hillary refusing to testify about Benghazi because of Executive Privilege.

 

Their heads would explode.  lol

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15 minutes ago, KAOSkins said:

I think it's pretty clever, but clever is lost on Trumpers.   

 

The one that really gets them is Cheeto.  It's a live by the sword die by the sword thing.  Their swords are childish put downs and a masterful parry with a fencing sword is always crushed by a swing of a two handed long sword, at least in their eyes.

 

 

It's been a while since I posted this, so here's a whole arsenal of swords for you (IMPOTUS added):

 

- Dorito Mussolini

- Cheetolini

- Captain Carrot Lips

- Orange Rider of the Apocalypse

- Old Dickery

- Donny Man Tits

- Sideboob Bob

- The Great Bloviator

- Goldman Nutsacks

- Donny Two Scoops

- Mango Mussolini

- Moron Don

- Mango Moron

- ****ing Moron

- Constantly bloviating fart monster

- Father of the Constitution morning constitutional tweet

- President Two Macs von NoFries

- Orange Foolius

- mentally deranged U.S. dotard

- Mango Unchained

- Sunburned warthog

-Pumpkin-flavored arsenic marshmallow

-Rancid bag of half melted circus peanuts

-Ambulatory merkin

-Rotting pumpkin time-lapse

-Rancid salmon filet

-A toupee someone found in a garbage can and stapled to a sweet potato

-Poorly trained circus orangutan

-Flopped over traffic cone

-Pencil-dick wall builder

-Sentient used car commercial

-Rejected holiday carrot cake

-Deranged moldy grapefruit

-Room temperature Sunny-D backwash

-Enraged over-ripe pineapple

-Cursed Siberian werewolf trapped in an Orangutan’s body

-Exhaustive child

-drunk court jester who’s been roving the country doing racist Chris Farley impersonations

-$4 billion puddle of tinted moisturizer

- Ever worse human and godsend

-Wonka factory escapee

-Open-Faced Quesadilla

-Idiot billionaire and face of YouTube’s popular “Annoying Orange”

-Noted Asshole

-Asshole-American

-Ambitious corn dog that escaped from the concession stand at a rural Alabama fairground, stole an unattended wig, hopped a freight train to Atlantic City and never looked back

-shrunken apple head

-decomposing ear of corn

-permanently open mouth

-Verbal Billionaire

-deflated basketball

-cartoon plutocrat

-sentient overripe pear

-melted creamsicle

-fluffy bouffant

-gaping mouth with a hairpiece

-oozy lather of absurd hyperbole

-dick-nosed baldy

-perpetual asshole

-serially bankrupt business mogul

-television clown

-bloated spawn of a Penn Station ashtray and Nickelodeon slime

- legitimate hairstyle choice

-anthropomorphic caterpillar

-toupee’d buffoon

-bloviating billionaire

-Enlarged pee-splattered Sno Cone

-idiotic rich man

-vibrating Bologna loaf

-Deflated football

-Human embodiment of hotdog filling

-Toupee-wearing Orangina ****hole

-sentient bottle of self tanner

-short-fingered vulgarian

-Rejected Richie Rich Villain

-Corndog that escaped from the state fair

-GOP Presidential candidate and Bone-in Ham

-Walking sun dried tomato

-Presidential candidate and human Kewpie doll

-Adult male baby with the combover and personality of a 30 pound toddler

-Melting pig carcass

-Human cystic acne pus

-Millionaire and disgraced racist

-What would happen if a caps lock key was granted one wish and that wish was to come to life.

-Fabulist cheddar critter

-Unrepentant Bigot

-Ralph Steadman illustration come to life

-Noted Donald Trump enthusiast

-Grimacing Cheeto Fart

-Everyone’s Favorite Screaming Steamed Carrot

-Cursed Halloween Mask

-Presidential candidate and bag of flour

-Enraged animated creamsicle

-Woody Allen impersonator and Incessant Tweeter

-Time-displaced Sopranos extra

-Melted candle impersonator

-Bloviating caricature of a businessman

-Disgraced Pope impersonator

-Cable News Fever Dream

-Delusional Cheese Creature

-Lint-crusted dried apricot

-Mud clotted welcome mat

-Melting Businessman

-James Bond Villain/Republican Presidential Candidate

-Aspiring social media intern

-Drunk Monopoly man

-Cranial bee sting victim

-Stupid, racist clown

-Lint-covered sentient Cheeto

-Man-sized sebaceous cyst

-billionaire Siberian Tiger hairball

-Shriveled apricot

-Empty popcorn bag rotting in the sun

-Heat Miser with a heart of coal

-Man-shaped asbestos insulation board

-Aggravated giant duckling

-dusty barrel of fermented peepee

-Gilded Dildo

-usually reasonable burlap sack full of rancid Peeps

-Degloved zoo penis

-Miss Cleo cosplay enthusiast

-bargain bin full of yellowing Jean-Claude Van Damme movies

-big orange buffoon

-Normal-looking human man and entirely credible choice as future leader of the free world

-overripe pumpkin from Halloween 2007

-Our nation’s loudest cheesy puff

-a dishrag that on closer inspection is alive with maggots

-Perpetual embarrassment

-Candied yam riddled with moldy spider carcasses

-wilted turkey skin puppet

-chewed-up furball

-petulant slice of stinking, festive ****-pie

-hairpiece come to life

-orange-tufted sentient troll doll

-Actual buffoon

-Decomposing pumpkin pie inhabited by vicious albino squirrels and presidential candidate

-Gross fat loser

-the shriveled pinto bean you had to pluck out of your Chipotle burrito basket

-orange gasbag

-Enraged Gak spill

-overinflated piss-blimp

-The orange beast

-Pumpkin flavored arsenic marshmallow

-Poorly trained circus orangutan

-a fascist golem made of flypaper

-Orange Clown

-a deeply stupid person: a crude, nasty, bloviating man always willing to shout himself hoarse about terrorist Muslims, rapist Mexicans, probably-menstruating Fox hosts

-orange lunatic

-Chester Cheetah Impersonator

-American hate leader

-a tiny piece of dried cat poop that you found in your rug

-Talking combover

-Cheeto-Dusted Bloviator

-Fuzzy Meat wad

-Decomposing ear of corn

-Rich idiot

-Noted Troll

-Soggy Burlap Sack

-Bag of toxic sludge

-Your next President and Ruler for life

-A brightly burning trash fire

-impoverished urchin

-Aggressively Stupid

-Great Judgement-Haver

-Hair-plug swollen with rancid egg whites

-inside-out lower intestine

-decomposing pumpkin pie inhabited by viscous albino squirrels

-lead paint factory explosion

-lumbering human-like tardigrade

-fart-infused lump of raw meat

- fetid orange meringue bloated shrunken head

- pudgy orange pail of anal smatterings

- cretinous tube of bankruptcy proceedings

- bronzer-saturated freak

- poorly dressed mantoddler

- penis shaped asteroid

- The worst person alive—the pettiest, smallest, emptiest, most dishonest, most malignant ****-for-brains you could ever imagine, just an absolute worthless interpretively man-shaped lint clump from the absolute bottom of the human genetic drain

- Ignorant thug with a lizard brain (quoted from Cher)

- Cheeto Voldemort

- Toupee Fiasco

- the Brick Tamaland of presidents

- Gassy orange goober

- Spastic man-baby

- Donny "Pantalones en Fuego"

- ****face Von Clownstick
- Satchel-Ass

- Lazy corrupt racist orange santorum-covered enemy of the people

- American albatross and the president of people who believe in UFOs

- IMPOTUS

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6 hours ago, justice98 said:

 

Because there probably should be 3 times as many as that, on merit.

 

And also because these articles wont sway the public much.  Obstruction of Congress feels like Congress' problem. Like, I cant see  the American people getting too worked up over that.

 

Not necessarily saying I agree with her completely, but Jennifer Rubin from WaPo lays out an interesting case of "Less is more" for this impeachment:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/10/how-narrow-will-articles-impeachment-be/

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The only way to flush this turd is to beat him in November while he has help from Russia and whoever else is tampering.

 

So you're telling me there is a chance?

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11 minutes ago, Springfield said:

This all feels like a nothingburger at this point.

We're all beaten down by the endless stream of corruption. He won't be removed, but this has to be done to establish a historic record that someone tried to stop it. I believe truly damning things are going to come out about Trump in the near future (maybe not before the election) that are going to make his sychophants look really bad.

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again Trump is hollering "witch hunt"

I almost wish it were.
At the end of a witch hunt, they burned the offender.

 

Imagine the grease fire if they lit that orange pig up.

 

~Bang

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1 hour ago, Springfield said:

This all feels like a nothingburger at this point.

 

Felt this way from the start: the left has no ability to sell impeachment to the country.

 

Not hard to see what the GOP is selling.

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53 minutes ago, Bang said:

again Trump is hollering "witch hunt"

I almost wish it were.
At the end of a witch hunt, they burned the offender.

 

Imagine the grease fire if they lit that orange pig up.

 

~Bang

Like to do the same to the little suck-ups that support him too. No reason to keep them here in the US any longer...It's a way to keep the energy bills lower this year.

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1 hour ago, Skintime said:

Like to do the same to the little suck-ups that support him too. No reason to keep them here in the US any longer...It's a way to keep the energy bills lower this year.

Well, any good fire needs kindling.
I'll bring the marshmallows

 

~Bang

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1 hour ago, Mooka said:

 

Felt this way from the start: the left has no ability to sell impeachment to the country.

 

Not hard to see what the GOP is selling.

I find this statement truly sad. There should be no need for the left to sell anything. There's no snake oil. No bull whatsoever unlike Whitewater or Benghazi. What Trump did was a clear wrong that exactly falls under what the Founding Fathers listed as an impeachable offense. 

 

If the Republicans don't act that's not on the left. It's a complete failure on the Right. Unfortunately, I expect to see the Right exhibit a complete moral failure.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mooka said:

 

Felt this way from the start: the left has no ability to sell impeachment to the country.

 

Not hard to see what the GOP is selling.

 

Whats left to be done if a good chunk of the country is happy being idiots?

 

This case isnt about selling impeachment. There is nothing to sell. The facts are clear. Willful ignorance to maintain subservience to 45 for whatever reason is the only reason this decision wont be unanimous.

 

We're constantly told stories of Murica's resolve, well its being tested from within and its about to crash spectacularly.

 

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20 minutes ago, StillUnknown said:

 

Whats left to be done if a good chunk of the country is happy being idiots?

 

 

 

Problem is you're assuming that chunk is solely Republicans. 

 

Americans are dumb across party lines.

 

Spell it out for them. 

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26 minutes ago, Burgold said:

 I find this statement truly sad. There should be no need for the left to sell anything. 

 

That just sounds like shoulda/woulda/coulda to me. 

 

Reality is that It is necessary regardless of shoulds or morals or right vs wrong. 

 

It was needed during the 2016 elections, the Kavanaugh hearing, the Mueller report, and now the impeachment hearings. Its been needed for the last 40 years. 

 

Democrats have a severe marketing problem. 

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