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      ES Coverage Cowboys vs Redskins 2019
       
      9/15/19
       
      Do I look like I'm playing? I'm not playing. This is the Washington Redskins versus the Dallas Cowboys. If you are a fan of this game, and this one does not get you excited you might want to check your pulse.
       
      Hello my friends it is I, JimmiJo, back for another year of this wonderful thing we call Redskins Football. This makes season 14 for me. I am joined by The Spaceman Spiff who will hereafter be known as "The Spaceman Spiff." 
       
      Where's that dude that gets the big tattoos on his back? There's his next one.
       
      So how important is this game? I don't know. What is the different between 1-1 and 0-2? The difference between batting .500 and zippy?
       
      Throw in that this is their 2nd division game to start the year AND a home game and you have a critical match.
       
      And once again they contend with critical injuries to start the year. Last year it was  their rookie star running back. This year its their 2nd year star...well you get the rest.  Darrius Guice is gone and not coming back this year. I think this really hurts him moving forward. Not sure who will build a scheme around him given his first two seasons.
       
      So it is down to the veteran Adrian Peterson. I have no worries of ring rust for hum. None whatsoever. He knows what to do.
       
      Anyway, almost time. Please share your thoughts.
       
      Stand by...
       
      Inactives
       
      The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy
      o   No. 23 CB Quinton Dunbar
      o   No. 31 Fabian Moreau
      o   No. 64 C Ross Pierschbacher
      o   No. 67 G Wes Martin
      o   No. 86 TE Jordan Reed
      o   No. 93 DT Jonathan Allen
       
      The Cowboys declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 10 WR Tavon Austin
      o   No. 37 S Donovan Wilson
      o   No. 57 LB Luke Gifford
      o   No. 61 C Adam Redmond
      o   No. 69 G Brandon Knight
      o   No. 79 DT Trysten Hill
      o   No. 97 DE Taco Charlton
       
      Follow along in-game at Twitter @Skinscast 
       
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Official 2018 Redskins Training Camp/Preseason Thread

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13 minutes ago, SkinsFanRob said:

Ankle injuries can linger. Not good. 

 

Ankle injuries, however, are a bigger problem for WRs and RBs than they are for DTs.

 

Hopefully, Payne's injury is not too serious.

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I don’t think an ankle is too serious. Especially with no prior ankle injury.

 

Unless he really needs the reps to learn the defense, which it sounds like isn’t the case. 

 

Also, I don’t know that this team is injury cursed because we have bad trainers and doctors. We take a lot of risk and draft players with histories of durability issues and injury concerns. Fuller turned out. Holsey, Reed, Chris Thompson, Allen have all missed time. I don’t mind taking a low round flyer on a guy like Shaun Dion Hamilton, who I like. We just also need to develop depth, so that when he predictably goes  down, we don’t lose an irreplaceable cog. 

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I swear after his first day of TC, and giving fits to one of the best OL in the league, I swear I was going to say, let's give Payne the rest of TC off, and most of August practice too. He's that good, that he could survive without it. And no sense in taking a chance on injury to our 1st rounder.

And now this.

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I think everyone needs to calm down. Minor injuries like pulls and minor sprains are a part of football. They have to work their bodies up to taking the level of abuse that they will receive during the season. I’m a believer that going too light in training camp leads to worse injuries because they aren’t used to the strain.

 

Play football, get through the bevy of small injuries, and come out ready to out physical Arizona. 

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My totally uneducated guess is his conditioning will be ready for week 1s planned time. I’d imagine he isn’t going to play more than half the snaps for much of the season. Just a guess. 

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Bad news on Payne, I'm trying to piece this together but being that they booted him I'm guessing its a grade 2 or 3 sprain, I wonder if he's getting an MRI to make sure there's no ligament damage?

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Loved hearing this from Keim:

 

 

I've mentioned that slot corner is perhaps the most questionable spot on the team right now, both starter and depth-wise. My hope was that Moreau would get some play inside since he’s got a skillset that translates there, at least better than Dunbar’s in my mind. 

 

Glad to see they’re already working Moreau there and that he’s doing well. Of course, this means very little right now, but it’s something. Wonder how Danny Johnson, the guy Jay pointed out during OTAs, is doing there? 

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Wonder if these minor injuries are a symptom of a **** field and playing in **** conditions. For a team worth 2.5 billion dollars we sure do go super cheap on some really necessary stuff...field, weight room, etc. 

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1 hour ago, B.A.M.F. said:

I think everyone needs to calm down. Minor injuries like pulls and minor sprains are a part of football. They have to work their bodies up to taking the level of abuse that they will receive during the season. I’m a believer that going too light in training camp leads to worse injuries because they aren’t used to the strain.

 

Play football, get through the bevy of small injuries, and come out ready to out physical Arizona. 

A homeboy I used to work with made this point to me a couple'a years back.  In fact, he takes things a step further and blames The Players for negotiating a bad collective bargaining deal - because the rules of engagement involve fewer contact practices.

 

His reasoning (in a nutshell) is because Players' bodies aren't properly toughened during Training Camp (and practices in general), we are seeing a higher volume of injuries as a result.  And due to the limited contact, this incoming generation of NFL Players are "softer".

 

I don't know if I agree with all of his position, but it's some original thinking - and from my view, he's got a point. (Ryan: these props are for you!)

 

That's the long-winded way of saying I agree with you @B.A.M.F..

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Glad to see Doctson winning on 50/50 balls in camp so far. The question is will Smith take the risks by throwing those in games?

 

Payne injury sucks. I wasnt exactly thrilled with that pick. But I was more excited when they added Settle late in the draft. 3 young guys on the line to grow together is a good thing. And with Payne down for a few weeks Settle will get plenty of extra work.

 

Quick has been flashing in camp so far. Would be nice to actually get something out of him this season.

 

All of the people who were calling to get rid of Norman during the off season need to back off. The man is as dedicated as any player in the league. And he puts in the work to prove it. 

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, Diehard Otis said:

A homeboy I used to work with made this point to me a couple'a years back.  In fact, he takes things a step further and blames The Players for negotiating a bad collective bargaining deal - because the rules of engagement involve fewer contact practices.

 

His reasoning (in a nutshell) is because Players' bodies aren't properly toughened during Training Camp (and practices in general), we are seeing a higher volume of injuries as a result.  And due to the limited contact, this incoming generation of NFL Players are "softer".

 

I don't know if I agree with all of his position, but it's some original thinking - and from my view, he's got a point. (Ryan: these props are for you!)

 

That's the long-winded way of saying I agree with you @B.A.M.F..

 

at the same time, there's only so many big hits a body can take.  You don't want to many friendly fire hits and injuries after all. 

 

Frankly, I think the biggest rule change the NFL should implement is weight limits.  With the size of the players combined with their modern workouts they're just better able to hit people at faster speeds and fall onto them with greater weights.  I think that's why RBs careers are so much shorter these days

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As a Youth Coach, I ran my teams hard, made them practice hard, tried to have fun as the same time, scrimmage second half of practice and closed with running and then a fun game of some kind. My point is this, #hardwork makes the team stronger.... I am asking around to see if the intensity is heightened, the same or less so...

 

 

 

 

 

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Here's some things that happened this morning when the pads went on for the first time.

 

 

 

Also, the field is still the suck. The entire ground may have been in even worse shape today. There's nothing quite like sinking when you walk. At one point walking across some mulch I swear I think I hit a sink hole as my foot went about 4" down into the ground before I could step out of it. 

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6 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

The Richmond area has had record setting rains since March.

 

Deal with it.

So has half the state the last few months. The difference is the rest of the state dries out. This facility doesn't.  But if we were talking about Ashburn/FedEx Field you'd be ok with bashing it because Dan, right? :silly: 

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8 minutes ago, TK said:

So has half the state the last few months. The difference is the rest of the state dries out. This facility doesn't.  But if we were talking about Ashburn/FedEx Field you'd be ok with bashing it because Dan, right? :silly: 

 

I remember going to Ashburn when it was plenty muddy.  Also, there were no real shaded areas or concessions to speak of.

 

The good old days, I suppose.

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8 hours ago, SkinsGuy said:

 

Blame Gruden for what?

 

The disappointment of Nicholson? Disappointed because of what? Two plays in training camp?

 

Folks need to get a grip. :806:

 

I'm not as excited about this as you seem to be.  All I'm saying is Gruden is the one who's leading the Nicholson parade.  I think he 's a solid defender.  I don't know how good he is, or how good he may become.

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8 hours ago, TryTheBeal! said:

If you’re gonna sprain an ankle, July 28th isn’t the worst time to do it.

Best time to knock off the dust..

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Guice is by far the best looking RB in shorts I’ve seen here since Portis.  I fully expect that to translate when the pads are on too.  He appears to be the difference maker that should make this offense go no matter what.  The threat alone should make everyone’s life a bit easier both between the 20’s and in the RZ.

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8 hours ago, dyst said:

We should absolutely be alarmed at the Payne injury. Who is the source telling us 2-3 weeks? If it’s the Redskins, then I’m not sure why you would have any faith in them to diagnose an injury or rehabilitate is.

 

Was it the ****ty filed or just another case of “bad luck”? Don’t know but this happens way to often here. Reed, Crowder were just two guys last year who were injured during camp and were never the same after. Both were given 2-3 week timelines. 

 

Might turn out to be nothing.

 

Depends on who reports it. Rotoworld says its a precaution. He already knows the defense and it didn't seem like a huge deal.Seems we might see him in the 3rd preseason game..

 

Guice is by far the best looking RB in shorts I’ve seen here since Portis.  I fully expect that to translate when the pads are on too.  He appears to be the difference maker that should make this offense go no matter what.  The threat alone should make everyone’s life a bit easier both between the 20’s and in the RZ.

 

 

Whoa whoa whoa what about Morris?

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39 minutes ago, Vanguard said:

 

I'm not as excited about this as you seem to be.  All I'm saying is Gruden is the one who's leading the Nicholson parade.  I think he 's a solid defender.  I don't know how good he is, or how good he may become.

 

It isn"t about excitement. It's about folks practically declaring this guy a bust because he wasn't perfect on two plays in training camp.

 

It's ridiculous.

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