2018 Free Agency Database - (Signed: WILLIAMS - McPhee - Scandrick - P-Rich) - (Lauvao, Bergstrom, Nsehke, Taylor, Z. Brown and Quick re-signed)

[MisterPinstripe]

1 hour ago, Burgold said:

A contrarian thought on the DL (which I'm not sure that I agree with).

 

Jonathan Allen and Matt Ionadis look pretty strong and should improve (assuming injuries don't get in the way)

Anthony Lanier flashed more than Matt did. He may be a good rotation guy.

McClain and McGee were just signed last year and were learning the system. 

Hood isn't a bad rotational guy though they consistently misuse him at nose. Mind you, he looked pretty good there when Allen and Matt were firing on all cylinders.

 

It's possible that DL is not as bad as we think. The question revolves around a couple important questions. How much does Allen and Ionadis improve in their second years and do they come back well from injury. Does Manusky and Tomsula understand better how to use these players and will they scheme to their strengths/Do the players get what's required of them and with greater scheme comfort get better? Will these guys develop chemistry and trust? Remember, that last year was the first year any of these guys played together. This was an entirely new D Line and they were learning each other and the scheme on the go.

 

So while I agree it'd be good to get more on the D Line I don't know that the cupboard is bare. We really only need to get someone with a high ceiling. The only really missing piece to this puzzle is the ever present question of NT.

I think its forgotten about. Before our D-line got smacked with injuries, and especially Jonathan Allen, they were playing awesome. Just having those guys back healthy and drafting DL in the 1st or 2nd would make me happy. Though I wouldnt mind grabbing someone in FA as well, DL makes the whole defense look better. We were only giving up an average of 88 yards a game on the ground until Allen got hurt.

[MEANDWARF]

3 hours ago, HigSkin said:

 

Yeah, read that as well on Roto

 

ESPN's Josina Anderson reports free agent CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie informed her he doesn't plan to sign with a team until "April sometime."

Rodgers-Cromartie quickly visited the Redskins after his release from the Giants this past week, but he evidently didn't like the offer and is prepared to wait it out. There are whispers the Redskins plan to up the offer to entice DRC. The 32-year-old (next month) may wait until after April's draft to pick a team.

[TK]

5 hours ago, Redskins Reparations said:

 

Pics or it never happened...

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/839354410736238592

 

 

[CommDownMan]

11 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

I just posted this over in the draft forum, but unless we sign a Mewhort/Cooper type to a 3-4 year deal worth $12m, I see us going LG in one of the first 3 picks. I could even see us trading down from 13 and getting another pick and taking a Guard/RB there in the 20s, and then the opposite position at 44.

 

Drafting a LG in the 1st or 2nd will give us a guy under control through either 2021 or 2022 and at an APY of $3-4m if in the 1st and $1-2m in the 2nd or $800k if in the 4th.

 

So I can respond more draft wise on other thread, try to keep this FA.

 

Right now Nsecke got a 2nd round tender, for a ~3mill cap hit.  The guys you mention would be a 3ish mill hit as well.  They aren't bad prices if doable, but it depends entirely on how well the skins think Kalis/Arie can do compared to bringing in those guys.

 

But last year we almost lost Kalis, to keep Lauvao for guard and Catalina as the swing.  Kalis looked better and I'd rather they give him a chance and have Nsecke as the insurance.  

 

Since we currently have no 3rd and only hopeful for a trade down, I don't see a 4th round guard being ready before the 3 guys I mentioned.  With other needs being bigger in my mind, I still think we should stick with what we have (even though I see where your coming from).

[OVCChairman]

What if we were to use that 5th or 6th WR spot for a hybrid RB type instead of an actual WR.  Thompson was a major part of the offense, so if we can crosstrain Crowder into a similar role, or even add a piece like Woodhead into that spot, the versatility could be big.  Use the roster spot for production and think outside of the 'depth chart' on paper.  

[Voice_of_Reason]

1 hour ago, Burgold said:

A contrarian thought on the DL (which I'm not sure that I agree with).

FWIW, I don't agree with it.

 

1 hour ago, Burgold said:

Jonathan Allen and Matt Ionadis look pretty strong and should improve (assuming injuries don't get in the way)

Anthony Lanier flashed more than Matt did. He may be a good rotation guy.

McClain and McGee were just signed last year and were learning the system. 

Hood isn't a bad rotational guy though they consistently misuse him at nose. Mind you, he looked pretty good there when Allen and Matt were firing on all cylinders.

Jonathan Allen has the potential to be great.  But he has injury concerns, and I don't believe he even played in half the games last year. 

Anthony Lanier is progressing well, but can we count on him to become a consistent threat and play at a pro-bowl leve?

Matt I. is kindof in the same boat as Lanier.  He really has progressed, but when Allen went out, his production dropped until he broke his hand.  I don't judge anything he did when he came back from the injury, I don't think he really got the strength back to be dominant. 

McClain/McGee and Hood are all JAGs, and they aren't going to progress past some version of JAG.  Some are some better than others.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Burgold said:

It's possible that DL is not as bad as we think. The question revolves around a couple important questions. How much does Allen and Ionadis improve in their second years and do they come back well from injury. Does Manusky and Tomsula understand better how to use these players and will they scheme to their strengths/Do the players get what's required of them and with greater scheme comfort get better? Will these guys develop chemistry and trust? Remember, that last year was the first year any of these guys played together. This was an entirely new D Line and they were learning each other and the scheme on the go.

It's possible that Allen, Matt Ioannidis and Lanier might all improve.  Allen has the ceiling to be one of the best DL in the league, I'm not sure MI or Lanier do.  

 

Compare to:
Brandon Graham

Fletcher Cox

Tim Jernigan

Derek Barnett

Michael Bennett

Chris Long

...

 

Put our guys against their guys. Serious question, would the Eagles exchange any one of their guys for any one of our guys?  I think the answer is no.  Their best is better than our best, and their worst is better than our worst. Across the board, they are better.  

 

While I believe that the DL is "coming along," I don't believe it's anywhere close to elite. 

 

I think the goal has to be to beat the Eagles.  They are the SB champs. They have a defense that is completely stacked, and they are going to slow down our offense, period.  That's not a slight on our offense at all, they are THAT good.  

 

So you've got to match their defense, and have the ability to get Wentz and company off the field.  They have great RBs, WRs, QB, OL, etc.  

 

In order to do that, a DL that is just "ok" and "getting better" isn't going to cut it.  

 

The ONLY good thing about the Eagles winning the SB last year is that they created an in-division measuring stick and target.  They are the team you have to shoot at.  

 

And I don't think that "pretty good" on the DL is going to cut it.

 

My $.02.

 

That said, I wouldn't be stupid about it, and pay big money for old vets, etc. I personally woudln't go after Suh, etc.  But they need to do something to improve the ceiling.  

 

 

1 hour ago, Burgold said:

So while I agree it'd be good to get more on the D Line I don't know that the cupboard is bare. We really only need to get someone with a high ceiling. The only really missing piece to this puzzle is the ever present question of NT.

The cupboard isn't bare, but it doesn't have enough fruits and veggies, maybe some canned goods to really be competitive.

 

[Why am I Mr. Pink?]

Galette - he was complaining via his twitter about his playing time w #free58 ..... if he re-signs, he will be in the same rotation w Smith and Anderson, maybe even less playing time if we add another end/olb or give Ryan Anderson more snaps.

 

If we re-sign Galette, what does that say about Ryan Anderson? 

 

Doesnt make any sense. We have dumped a ton of draft picks into the end/olb spot with kerrrigan (1st rounder) and Smith (2nd), Murphy (2nd) and Anderson (2nd).  (Orakpo as well).

 

Allen (1st) plays end half the time anyway. 

 

Use the Galette money for a competing C or starting LG. Or a slot corner.  

 

 

 

 

[Unbias]

7 minutes ago, TK said:

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/granthpaulsen/status/839354410736238592

 

 

Allen's office looks terrible. It probably smells like old carpets. 

[Unbias]

Eric Reid appears to be getting black balled by the league. He'd be completely worth a flyer. IMO he's better than anything we got and if we can get him cheap that's worth it. 

[skinsOLfan]

We need to resign Junior Gallette just like we needed Zack Brown PFF showed that JG had the 3rd most pressures in the entire NFL last season in limited playing time and we can get him at a reasonable deal plus he wants to be here.

[Thinking Skins]

1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

I hope not.

But why?

 

These type of deals happen every year and to every other team, especially the successful teams. I despised Vinny because he never took these chances and so the guys who had the potential would never get a shot at starting unless it was due to injury, then we'd always lose them for a flashier, more expensive player.

 

Just look at last year with Vigil, Francis, Kalis, Kouandijo, and Bibbs. These are all guys who have the potential to make our roster and be regular contributors and good players but were on the streets last year. Heck, Chris Thompson who Jay called the best third down back in the league was a guy we cut in training camp.

 

Signing a guy like Logan / Poe / Richardson etc is a quick fix but, look at what happened with Norman - the last "big" contract we gave out. He performed exceptional one year and average the next. And now we have a large portion of the fan base begging to trade him for scraps. What if signing one of these guys winds up being the blocker from us keeping Scherff or Smith? What if their performance isn't as good as other guys on the team, or if other guys we passed up outperform them.

 

And its not just UDFAs, its also high draft pick guys who got hurt on their first teams, or guys who we had high on our draft board in a recent draft who were picked ahead of our pick. Maybe a guy like Marcus Martin (the G who was in Cleveland last year and SF before that) hasn't looked like an all pro yet in the pros, but he's young and somebody we think can be a good player so we take the chance.

 

I think it'd be different if we were a 0-16 or 3-13 team, but we were fighting for a playoff spot these last two years. We have a good team with good depth. We're not looking to overhaul the whole roster. We're looking for pieces to come in here and beat the guys in that spot. And it kinda goes into why Scot doesn't like FA, he likes to teach players the Redskins way from the getgo and not have them bringing in another team's way of doing it, which may be right or wrong, but it isn't US.

 

 

[tmandoug1]

Seems weird that a dude that has only played one of the last three seasons is wanting a big payday. Did we keep him because of his contract or were we just being nice? I agree, let him go test and see what he comes up with. Gamble but we seem pretty stout at his positioin.

[RWJ]

12 minutes ago, tmandoug1 said:

Seems weird that a dude that has only played one of the last three seasons is wanting a big payday. Did we keep him because of his contract or were we just being nice? I agree, let him go test and see what he comes up with. Gamble but we seem pretty stout at his positioin.

talking about Ryan Gruden right?

[RabidFan]

Who knows what he's asking for but I'm sure its more playing time than last year.  Perhaps with Murphy gone he will get it but if Anderson steps up he might not. 

[bedlamVR]

19 minutes ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said:

Galette - he was complaining via his twitter about his playing time w #free58 ..... if he re-signs, he will be in the same rotation w Smith and Anderson, maybe even less playing time if we add another end/olb or give Ryan Anderson more snaps.

 

If we re-sign Galette, what does that say about Ryan Anderson? 

 

Doesnt make any sense. We have dumped a ton of draft picks into the end/olb spot with kerrrigan (1st rounder) and Smith (2nd), Murphy (2nd) and Anderson (2nd).  (Orakpo as well).

 

Allen (1st) plays end half the time anyway. 

 

Use the Galette money for a competing C or starting LG. Or a slot corner.  

 

 

 

 

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With Galette There was an interview with him, Tandler and Finley where he was talking about that a bit . I think at this point in his career he doen't see himself as a full time starter. BUT he just wants more opportunity in specialist packages. I think the approach the team took was to bring him on more slowly than he would have liked to see how he had revovered from his injuries and to be honest if something broke - you trusted it - it broke again - would you be so keen to push it to breaking point a third time - or rely on it/him a third time . I think Junior did convince the coaches he was back and they have reached out to him but I think he knows anywhere he goes he is not going to be lead dog until he can prove it . 

 

If we resign Galette i dont think it says anything about Anderson - They are different players with different mentality and physical skills . I think all it says is we want to get as many weapons on the defense as possible. - Defense always always needs pass rush - teams everywhere dump resources into the position. 

 

I am not sure there are C or G that would be worth bringing in at this stage - I always worry about OL free agents more than any other position in free agency - because the OL is a cohesive unit- unlike the DL there is generally no positional rotation and so indivual talents are less important overall than being able to work as a team - There are exceptions - brandon is an exceptional talent at G he could work anywhere - Williams equally so and having that kind of talent elevates those around you - so it is possibly a better plan to get some raw prospects late in the draft and coach them up and in a way make a conveyer belt - and where someone is weak you scheme to mask weaknesses. ... 

 

[pray4surf]

24 minutes ago, Unbias said:

Eric Reid appears to be getting black balled by the league. He'd be completely worth a flyer. IMO he's better than anything we got and if we can get him cheap that's worth it. 

This, not 32 year old DRC.  Reid is only 26 and would address a position of need for at least the next 4 years if he stays healthy.  Seems like a no brainer.  

[RabidFan]

I like the idea of fresh legs on edge rushers for the whole game in rotation.  Gallette or maybe even a cheaper Tamba Hali could be a benefit to keep Kerrigan fresh for the end of games.

[dyst]

Ryan Anderson better turn into something decent. We can't keep screwing up 2nd/3rd round picks.

[CTskin]

6 minutes ago, pray4surf said:

This, not 32 year old DRC.  Reid is only 26 and would address a position of need for at least the next 4 years if he stays healthy.  Seems like a no brainer.  

DRC would be signed to play the slot, I assume. Eric Reid is a S... Not that we're stacked there, but with Swearinger, Nicholson, Everett and Cravens, I don't think the FO is even thinking about safeties.

[RWJ]

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 11m11 minutes ago

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Ryan Grant’s agent, Rocky Arceneaux, also said that his client has been working out, running routes and his ankle was cleared from a second opinion from Dr. Robert Anderson and is not an issue. Now it’s off to meet with the Colts.

[Why am I Mr. Pink?]

Just now, bedlamVR said:

 

With Galette There was an interview with him, Tandler and Finley where he was talking about that a bit . I think at this point in his career he doen't see himself as a full time starter. BUT he just wants more opportunity in specialist packages.

 

 

I like Galette, I just dont know where we would put him. By seasons end he was playing about 50% of the D snaps. 

 

if Anderson could turn into an above average stand up LB, that would be huge. 

[RWJ]

 

Just now, Why am I Mr. Pink? said:

 

I like Galette, I just dont know where we would put him. By seasons end he was playing about 50% of the D snaps. 

 

if Anderson could turn into an above average stand up LB, that would be huge. 

Read a story where Ryan Anderson has lost weight, muscled up and is ready to go.  I thought last year he needed to do this to increase his speed and quickness and if true am glad to hear this.

[Why am I Mr. Pink?]

Just now, RWJ said:

 

Read a story where Ryan Anderson has lost weight, muscled up and is ready to go.  I thought last year he needed to do this to increase his speed and quickness and if true am glad to hear this.

 

I did a quick look for the article and didnt find it. Did stumble upon this very in depth look at Ryan Anderson's "athleticism" compared to other similar position players. This article broke things down to increments. Summary is not good for him but this was written last year. Bottom half in terms of speed and explosiveness for edge rushers and too slow for a stand up/off the ball LB.  

 

I hope he did work on his speed and quickness .. bc this article indicates he is below average. (Of course games and tackles arent made in the gym room or on paper. I do believe in the term "football player" which goes beyond verts and 40s). 

 

https://www.hogshaven.com/2017/6/15/15743730/skins-stats-ryan-anderson-amp-the-athleticism-elephant-in-the-room

[bobandweave]

2 hours ago, Burgold said:

A contrarian thought on the DL (which I'm not sure that I agree with).

 

Jonathan Allen and Matt Ionadis look pretty strong and should improve (assuming injuries don't get in the way)

Anthony Lanier flashed more than Matt did. He may be a good rotation guy.

McClain and McGee were just signed last year and were learning the system. 

Hood isn't a bad rotational guy though they consistently misuse him at nose. Mind you, he looked pretty good there when Allen and Matt were firing on all cylinders.

 

It's possible that DL is not as bad as we think. The question revolves around a couple important questions. How much does Allen and Ionadis improve in their second years and do they come back well from injury. Does Manusky and Tomsula understand better how to use these players and will they scheme to their strengths/Do the players get what's required of them and with greater scheme comfort get better? Will these guys develop chemistry and trust? Remember, that last year was the first year any of these guys played together. This was an entirely new D Line and they were learning each other and the scheme on the go.

 

So while I agree it'd be good to get more on the D Line I don't know that the cupboard is bare. We really only need to get someone with a high ceiling. The only really missing piece to this puzzle is the ever present question of NT.

 

I appreciate a good contrarian viewpoint more then most, hell I'm full of those. But this I can't get behind

 

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

 

Ranked 29th worst DVOA against the RB. 

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2017/fantasy-points-against-RB.htm

 

Ranked 3rd worst at giving up fantasy points to the opposing RB

 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/position/defense

 

Gave up the most running back yards as a Defense in the league to RBs

Gave up the 4th worst yards per carry average to the opposing RB last year with a 4.5 yard average

Gave up the most rushing yards per game to the opposing RB last year with an average of 134.1 yards per game

 

The issue with this team stopping the opposing RB is bigger then just needing a NT. This is the worst in the league. It takes more then one guy and some guys to get healthy to fix this. If they don't shore this up then it will stunt the teams growth again like it did last season. We don't talk about how terrible of a unit this really is to me enough imo. Bennie Logan would be a great start but it can't end there. 

 

 

 

[Bonez3]

Is Ryan Anderson pure OLB, or does he play ILBas well?

 

Regardless, he's depth while we have Kerrigan and Smith and frankly had some nice plays last year. Can't say the guys a bust or underperforming when he wasn't even a slated starter. He's somebody you continue to develop. Expect a lot more from him this year after some NFL experience.