Mr. Sinister Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I feel bad for kids that get yet another cold brutal reminder just a couple weeks removed from the start of school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasCowboyFan156 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Cooked Crack said: He fits the bill for the type that usually commit this crime. While there have been a few exceptions most of the perpetrators have been white, young, and male. I’m not pointing this out to hate on young white males either. I myself am one. It’s just that the trend is too noticeable to ignore. I think the CDC needs to investigate what could be causing the deterioration of mental health in this subset of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, DallasCowboyFan156 said: He fits the bill for the type that usually commit this crime. While there have been a few exceptions most of the perpetrators have been white, young, and male. I’m not pointing this out to hate on young white males either. I myself am one. It’s just that the trend is too noticeable to ignore. I think the CDC needs to investigate what could be causing the deterioration of mental health in this subset of the population. I believe the CDC isn't permitted to study gun related issues like that per a law passed by the GOP. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasCowboyFan156 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 35 minutes ago, Hersh said: I believe the CDC isn't permitted to study gun related issues like that per a law passed by the GOP. I think that’s true but it doesn’t have to be framed as studying a gun related issue. They should never mention guns in their report. Just investigate the mental health of the population. Use passive, non descriptive words like “violence” and “aggressive tendencies” to define their behavior and it may work as a nice loophole. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Hersh said: I believe the CDC isn't permitted to study gun related issues like that per a law passed by the GOP. you are mistaken, they are in danger of losing funding if they behave like political hacks though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, twa said: you are mistaken, they are in danger of losing funding if they behave like political hacks though. I was wrong in that this actually started in 1996. Oh the irony of your post mentioning “if they behave like political hacks.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 care to show the prohibition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hersh said: I was wrong in that this actually started in 1996. Oh the irony of your post mentioning “if they behave like political hacks.” Imagine if this was any other health issue. No longer will the CDC act like political hacks because we took away funding for lead paint research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, twa said: care to show the prohibition? https://www.npr.org/2018/03/25/596805354/cdc-now-has-authority-to-research-gun-violence-whats-next Quote ROSENBERG: The Dickey Amendment arose out of a fierce battle between two archenemies - gun control, and the other was gun rights. And the NRA had told their members that you can't have both. And the Dickey Amendment was a compromise. The Dickey Amendment said CDC can do the research. But they can't use any of these funds to promote or advocate gun control. What that meant was CDC couldn't lobby for legislation that would impose gun control. Now, CDC was not in the business of lobbying. But this amendment was a shot across the bow. It was an obstacle to people doing research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 so it is not prohibited....as I said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, twa said: so it is not prohibited....as I said You are so right TWA, the legislation didn’t explicitly say it was prohibited. It only had a chilling effect on the cdc for over two decades. Whatever makes you feel better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Hersh said: You are so right TWA, the legislation didn’t explicitly say it was prohibited. It only had a chilling effect on the cdc for over two decades. Whatever makes you feel better. It does not prohibit gun studies(or mental health issues related to) AT ALL, it does prohibit political activism........such activism is why Dickey was passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 9 hours ago, DallasCowboyFan156 said: He fits the bill for the type that usually commit this crime. While there have been a few exceptions most of the perpetrators have been white, young, and male. I’m not pointing this out to hate on young white males either. I myself am one. It’s just that the trend is too noticeable to ignore. I think the CDC needs to investigate what could be causing the deterioration of mental health in this subset of the population. Are you making a claim that you think twenty something white males are more likely to be mentally unstable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 minute ago, twa said: It does not prohibit gun studies(or mental health issues related to) AT ALL, it does prohibit political activism........such activism is why Dickey was passed. You should have been advising the CDC this entire time since you’ve been privy to all the conversations and issues surrounding the Dickey Amendment. Those dummies in the CDC just needed TWA this entire time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Hersh said: You should have been advising the CDC this entire time since you’ve been privy to all the conversations and issues surrounding the Dickey Amendment. Those dummies in the CDC just needed TWA this entire time. They were advised, and cut the crap activism. I didn't need to repeat it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, twa said: They were advised, and cut the crap activism. I didn't need to repeat it to them. Just that simple. They needed you . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, Zguy28 said: Are you making a claim that you think twenty something white males are more likely to be mentally unstable? well, according to all the data....oh wait...that's just for ES 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl05 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) The problem was that evidence based research findings that suggested that gun control regulations had beneficial effects including reducing gun deaths was viewed as activism, not research. ANY research that might result in evidence supporting gun control was demonized by those beholden to the NRA as activist and problematic. It is completely intellectually dishonest to suggest anything other than that the legislation in question was intended to suppress and discourage research into gun deaths, and that it worked as intended. Edited August 27, 2018 by bcl05 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Did this person bring the gun with him all the way to Jacksonville? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purbeast Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) Nm, that wasn't him tweeting. Edited August 27, 2018 by purbeast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, twa said: you are mistaken, they are in danger of losing funding if they behave like political hacks though. Trying to figure out what's causing these mass shooting is political now? Think you should sleep in that one, Jesus, man Edited August 27, 2018 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 10 hours ago, Hersh said: I believe the CDC isn't permitted to study gun related issues like that per a law passed by the GOP. 2 hours ago, twa said: you are mistaken, they are in danger of losing funding if they behave like political hacks though. For those having trouble reconciling these two statements: Some time ago, the CDC did initiate a study on gun deaths. The Republican congress immediately cut the CDC's budget by the exact amount which the study cost. No, there is no LAW which EXPLICITLY forbids the CDC from mentioning guns. Yes, it is an absolute fact that they are forbidden from doing so. The prohibition simply isn't explicitly written down. And the official GOP party slogan to try to deny this fact is to claim that it's because scientists are "partisan hacks". (Every partisan hack says so). 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 It's just bull****. The entirety of "conservative thought" anymore is just flat out bull****. Bull**** this, bull**** that, and under no circumstances do not ever make any statement or believe anything that is not rooted and covered completely in bull****. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I feel like Im turning into an old man overnight ... I kinda in part blame the violent shooter video games. This guy was 24 years old, lives with parents and is a professional gamer so I assume that means he sits in a dark room and plays 16 hours a day 7 days a week. chicken or egg - do video games attract the already troubled introvert or do they change a seemingly normal person into a detached from reality killer? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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