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22 minutes ago, Dan T. said:

 

Edit: With all due respect...

 

The edit did not save Dan from MOD action.  Being disrespectful to other members will not be tolerated. Feel free to attack other posters logic or views - but not them personally.

 

Let’s keep it civil.

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MGM Resorts Sues Victims of Las Vegas Mass Shooting

 

MGM Resorts International has filed federal lawsuits against hundreds of victims of last year’s mass shooting in Las Vegas in an apparent bid to pre-empt any compensation claims. MGM, which owns the Mandalay Bay hotel-casino and the venue of the Route 91 Harvest music festival, has argued that any lawsuits holding the company liable for deaths or injuries during the Oct. 1 massacre “must be dismissed” because the company took reasonable precautions to prevent such mass violence. 

 

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1 hour ago, China said:

MGM Resorts Sues Victims of Las Vegas Mass Shooting

 

MGM Resorts International has filed federal lawsuits against hundreds of victims of last year’s mass shooting in Las Vegas in an apparent bid to pre-empt any compensation claims. MGM, which owns the Mandalay Bay hotel-casino and the venue of the Route 91 Harvest music festival, has argued that any lawsuits holding the company liable for deaths or injuries during the Oct. 1 massacre “must be dismissed” because the company took reasonable precautions to prevent such mass violence. 

 

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This is America

 

Remember, Corporations are people too. :)

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3 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said:

A sign of our times, this is going on right now at my son’s high school. He’s participating in this drill.

 

Just took my youngest to orientation at U of Michigan. They had a campus security guy in for parent orientation, and he showed a 15-20 minute video on responding to an active shooter on campus. Told us the kids would see the exact same video later that day. Galls me to my core that this is what this society puts up with in this day and time. Devo may have been on to something 35 years ago.

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Just found out that the student on the stretcher is my son. As a parent it is distressing tobsay the least, especially hearing their comments afterward about mistakes made and how slow everything was moving.

But, a drill is where you want to make your mistakes.

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We ran a drill this year along similar lines. Because it's a K-8 school we didn't frame it as an active shooter drill, but that was the basic intent. 

 

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it, as my 2nd grade teacher used to say. 

 

There used to be nuclear bomb drills in schools and now that's just a quaint part of our history. Things like this evolve to suit the times, and hopefully this phase will pass too. 

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3 hours ago, dfitzo53 said:

We ran a drill this year along similar lines. Because it's a K-8 school we didn't frame it as an active shooter drill, but that was the basic intent. 

 

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it, as my 2nd grade teacher used to say. 

 

There used to be nuclear bomb drills in schools and now that's just a quaint part of our history. Things like this evolve to suit the times, and hopefully this phase will pass too. 

I can only hope.

Before he left this morning he and his buddies were all talking about how they were going to act with their injuries etc.

When he got home, he said that he never saw the guy come in with the shotgun, he turned around and saw the 12 gauge, heard the shot and knew...was just stunned, pure shot. All of the bravado he had going in was gone. He and his friends all agreed that they won't soon forget the sound of that shotgun going off three times right next to them. 

 

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I was actually surprised they used a 12 gauge. I figured they would have used a .22 or small caliber with blanks, but they used training loads or something? They said it was plenty loud, especially indoors. He was standing next two two of his buddies and the sound shocked them all. Apparently fired three times in fairly quick succession.

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1 hour ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

 

The words "court filing" make me imagine (admittedly with no basis whatsoever other than those two words) that what's going on is:  

 

1)  Somebody's suing the NRA.  (No big stretch, I assume somebody's always suing the NRA.)  

2)  And the NRA has a corporate policy of making sure that, the instant any money comes in, it is immediately sent to some other corporate entity, so that, 

3)  When they get sued, they can claim to be broke.  (And therefore unable to pay any big judgments.)  

 

But, again, just a theory.  

 

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2 minutes ago, Larry said:

 

The words "court filing" make me imagine (admittedly with no basis whatsoever other than those two words) that what's going on is:  

 

1)  Somebody's suing the NRA.  (No big stretch, I assume somebody's always suing the NRA.)  

2)  And the NRA has a corporate policy of making sure that, the instant any money comes in, it is immediately sent to some other corporate entity, so that, 

3)  When they get sued, they can claim to be broke.  (And therefore unable to pay any big judgments.)  

 

But, again, just a theory.  

 

 

I think that is a decent theory, the weakness being:  why wouldn't every entity do that?  I'll do some digging into the court case if I have time later (I have no life). 

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I tried to look into this but the actual court filings are on PACER, which I can't look at without my firm knowing that I'm ****ing around.  Rolling Stone also hosted a copy on Google Docs, which is blocked at work.  Based on the Rolling Stone article, it sounds like the NY state regulator for banking and insurance (NYDFS) is preventing the NRA from offering an insurance product called Carry Guard which is insurance that pays your civil and criminal legal fees so that in case you shoot someone.  In May, NYDFS found that Carry Guard “unlawfully provided liability insurance to gun owners for certain acts of intentional wrongdoing.” The NRA’s insurance partners agreed to stop selling the policies and pay a $7 million fine.  NRA is claiming that NYDFS is now systematically targeting them and, because this is a court case, claims that this will inevitably lead to a parade of horribles that will cripple the NRA.  In order to make this claim not laughable, NRA has to claim to be on poor financial footing because NY is only one state, so NRA has to say "if even ONE state makes it hard for us to operate in, we fold nationwide."

 

Hopefully the NYDFS demands that they provide full details of their financial situation.  

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