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Presidential Election: 11/3/20 ---Now the President Elect Joe Biden Thread


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Hume complained about Trump's Scarborough tweet (he has alsocomplained about Trump's counterproductive tweets in the past) and I thought "yeah, but you're still going to happily pull the lever for the president in November."

 

And today tweets the pic about Biden wearing a mask during the visit to the Delaware cemetery.

 

Brit is a shallow asshole. No other way to put it. 

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Hume then accused Biden of "virtue signaling" by wearing the mask.

 

I honestly wish I could just hide out somewhere without the temptation of social media until November.  The atmosphere in this country is becoming just so increasingly poisonous and is bleeping disgusting. 

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3 minutes ago, hail2skins said:

Hume then accused Biden of "virtue signaling" by wearing the mask.

 

I honestly wish I could just hide out somewhere without the temptation of social media until November.  The atmosphere in this country is becoming just so increasingly poisonous and is bleeping disgusting. 

 

Many of those hypocrites. Complain about trump and his actions but then support everything he wants and does. Looking at you Susan Collins and others!!  

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21 minutes ago, Destino said:

A 77 year old man wearing a mask during a pandemic that mostly kills old people is the opposite of virtue signaling.  


That’s like saying that wearing a PFD white water rafting is virtue signaling.


They don’t care. Protections and safety are for the weak. these are the same people that criticized Obama for wearing a bicycle helmet 

 

 

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Hey, I tripped over Vicki (cat) on the stairs yesterday & I thought I broke my face. I need a full bubble helmet around here. 

(A friend from work picked us up Mexican for dinner last night and we hung out here...I'm gonna be swollen & red for a couple days, but we don't think anything's broken.) ****in hurts, tho.

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7 hours ago, Destino said:

A 77 year old man wearing a mask during a pandemic that mostly kills old people is the opposite of virtue signaling.  

 

Is a 74 year old man not wearing a mask during a pandemic that mostly kills old people, "lack of virtue signaling"?  

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It’s absolutely amazing that being a socially irresponsible asshole is the default position of the GOP. 
 

The opposition to mask wearing isn’t about masks. It’s the act of doing something that might be considered selfless and for the benefit of others. You can substitute masks for any other similar social behavior and their would be a problem. Being a good, responsible member of society is the issue. 
 

It is not by coincidence that a raging narcissist and sociopath is their definition of a good leader.

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8 hours ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:


They don’t care. Protections and safety are for the weak. these are the same people that criticized Obama for wearing a bicycle helmet 

 

 

Obama is histories greatest monster. Second only to Jimmy Carter. I mean not only did he wear a bike helmet once while riding a bike. He also had the audacity to salute a US soldier while holding a coffee cup. That's right up there with advising Americans to put on a sweater and turn down the thermostat to conserve energy during the winter. Lousy Socialists.

 

The fawning over Putin by the Fox News is pretty damn funny and scary. That's from 2014? No wonder why they no care about Trump colluding with Russians to interfere in our elections. 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, clietas said:

 

Obama is histories greatest monster.

The amount of Obama is a muslim, who gave all of our money to his muslim buddies to ruin us, memes that I've seen over the holiday weekend via social media is disturbing.  These folks will believe anything that Trump and his clan come up with.

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7 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

The amount of Obama is a muslim, who gave all of our money to his muslim buddies to ruin us, memes that I've seen over the holiday weekend via social media is disturbing.  These folks will believe anything that Trump and his clan come up with.

 

They believe what they want to believe.  They want to be angry. They want blame someone for their insecurities and what they perceive as being left behind. They want someone to blame for everything that is wrong with their lives. So they believe anything that feeds that narrative and ignore facts. 

 

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Joe Biden has a plan for that

Not a joke, folks: He’s running on a transformative policy agenda.

 

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/26/21257648/joe-biden-climate-economy-tax-plans

 

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Former Vice President Joe Biden has never really sought or received a reputation as a deep thinker on domestic policy matters. His highest-profile role as a senator involved judicial confirmations and his time chairing the Foreign Relations Committee. As vice president, his best-known work was in the national security domain or as a personal emissary from the White House to Congress.

As a candidate in the 2020 primaries, his pitch was overwhelmingly about electability; his policy profile was defined primarily by the things he wouldn’t embrace. Left-wing journalists and activists criticized his opposition to sweeping proposals from Sen. Bernie Sanders like Medicare-for-all or the Green New Deal. Biden argued that plans were implausible to make real and that he would take a more pragmatic approach — frustrating proponents of a “political revolution” or Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s “big structural change.”

 

That conflict between what the left wants and what Biden wouldn’t give them became the dominant narrative about him in the mainstream press. Biden was defined by the things he was against, rather than by the substantial overlap between his policy ideas and those of his progressive critics. Biden is a mainstream Democrat, and as the Democratic Party has grown broadly more progressive in recent years, he is now running on arguably the most progressive policy platform of any Democratic nominee in history.

 

It’s a detailed and aggressive agenda that includes doubling the minimum wage and tripling funding for schools with low-income students. He is proposing the most sweeping overhaul of immigration policy in a generation, the biggest pro-union push in three generations, and the most ambitious environmental agenda of all time.

 

If Democrats take back the Senate in the fall, Biden could make his agenda happen. A primary is about airing disagreements, but legislating is about building consensus. The Democratic Party largely agrees on a suite of big policy changes that would improve the lives of millions of Americans in meaningful ways. Biden has detailed, considered plans to put much of this agenda in place. But getting these plans done will be driven much more by the outcome of the congressional elections than his questioned ambition.

 

List of plans at link. 

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It doesn't really matter which proposals I agree with either totally or on some level.  Unless the Dems take full control (which scares me in its own right, I don't like the idea of either party having total control), what is the plan to get ANYTHING done?  The GOP will just do everything they can to stop even the most reasonable Dem proposal.

 

On a somewhat side note, I still do believe in many traditionally "conservative" policy positions.  At least the spirit of them if not the way they would be used and abused.  But I cannot express enough the level of embarrassment that I feel when I remember that I used to be part of the GOP.  For years I just told myself that they did one thing or another for some justifiable reason or they just did something I didn't like but it wasn't enough to get me to leave the party.  Obviously you will never agree any party or candidate 100% of the time.  But it was the Muslim ban right after Trump took office that finally made me throw in the towel and "leave" the GOP.  And it seems to me they grow to be exponentially more grotesque with every passing day.  I imagine I feel like someone must have felt when the Nazi party was first rising.  "Oh I like national pride and see a lot of changes that should be made" and then you wake up one day and realize the group you associated with has taken those ideas and transformed them into "lets kill everyone that isn't like us and take over the world."  Your like "oh **** no, thats not what I support!"  And are embarrased to admit you ever associated with them. 

 

This probably could have gone in several threads but I just felt the need to get it out.  Sorry for the derail.  

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9 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

It doesn't really matter which proposals I agree with either totally or on some level.  Unless the Dems take full control (which scares me in its own right, I don't like the idea of either party having total control), what is the plan to get ANYTHING done?  The GOP will just do everything they can to stop even the most reasonable Dem proposal.

 

Congress becoming a legislative graveyard is a policy position of Mitch McConnell. The plan to get anything done in this country is to punish the GOP at the ballot box so maybe when they come back to power they aren't complete assholes. I don't like the idea of one party in complete control, but this assumption rests on two parties interested in actually legislating and governing. Right now, that is only one party.

 

If the Dems gain control of the Senate, which seems increasingly possible, the legislative filibuster has to be nuked. I am not sure if this will happen or not. The Classic Dem thing would be to keep it in place and complain about "GOP obstruction".

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If the Dems do take total control all I’ll say is just be damn ready to use the power and get what you want done with the same level of ferocity the GOP has attacked all their core principles. Be ready to legislate and govern. Don’t bend at all, or waffle and go for the throat of everything you want done.

 

I’d be willing to bet that Obama’s biggest regret is not going for it all when they had total control those first two years. He was a statesman, who treated everyone with respect and was probably too willing not to push all his policies down the GOPs throat When he took office. IMHO. 
 

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This letter is from the husband of the staffer that died while working under Joe Scarborough.  He's pissed about the misinformation surrounding his wife's death, let's see if Twitter has the balls to do something.

 

 

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I understand the hesitation about one party control in the context of the historical counterbalancing of the two dominant parties.  Currently, one party has stopped believing in basic facts and science and seemingly has no interest in helping the portion of the population of our country that needs reasonable governance, and so right now, I think it's best for the other party to take the wheel for awhile. 

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2 minutes ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said:

 

I’d be willing to bet that Obama’s biggest regret is not going for it all when they had total control those first two years. He was a statesman, who treated everyone with respect and was probably too willing not to push all his policies down the GOPs throat When he took office. IMHO. 
 

 

I'm convinced Obama laid on the sword for us as a last chance at bipartisanship so we don't have to.  

 

He sacrificed the potential of his legacy so his legacy could be "don't make my mistake, I proved it can't be done right now".

 

Having said that, we should still be careful ignoring reality half the country is still conservative even if Dems get full control again.  That's a different type of gasoline on a different type of fire, @TheGreatBuzz talked right to it.

 

Two parties can work, but isn't right now. Arguement can be made no parties is safer then one party.  It would take the DNC getting rid of itself, they don't have the balls to do that, imo.

 

Anyone is better then Trump got us Biden as the nominee, Modern Democracy is at a crossroads right now...

3 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

I understand the hesitation about one party control in the context of the historical counterbalancing of the two dominant parties.  Currently, one party has stopped believing in basic facts and science and seemingly has no interest in helping the portion of the population of our country that needs reasonable governance, and so right now, I think it's best for the other party to take the wheel for awhile. 

 

Bare-minimum don't become the monster they promised to slay.  The Bernie Bros are a clear indication that that is entirely possible if they aren't careful.

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