Presidential Election: 11/3/20 ---Now the President Elect Joe Biden Thread

[skinsmarydu]

5 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

 

I think Warren/Pete. She's got the policy, he's got the reason/rhyme. He'd make a great VP with her. 

[NoCalMike]

I'm interested in the Bernie Fox Townhall, just hope it isn't some kind of ambush where it comes off as coordinated between the moderator(s) and canned audience questions where it's just 2 hours of "Socialism is bad you old crazy man, why do you love socialism, this is "muricaaaaa"  

 

I have no issue with them questioning Bernie on the substance of his actual policies and asking him to further explain stuff, but I am skeptical that this is some kind of genuine outreach on Fox's part. 

 

I also hope Bernie doesn't get too passive, if I was him I'd take the message right to the crowd, that *they* are the ones most likely being ripped off the most.

[Captain Wiggles]

CNN already "ambushed" Bernie in their townhall about a month ago by stacking the audience with DC pros.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.burlingtonfreepress.com/amp/3013847002

 

He should do just fine on FNC. Bernie's a smart and genuine person.

[Simmsy]

I love the idea of Sanders  having a Fox news town hall. When I first heard the DNC wouldn't have anything to do with Fox news I was happy, I thought "good for them". Then someone brought to me my attention that the DNC is cutting off a huge part of the country. These Fox news morons need to be reached and talked to as well, they're for socialism...they just don't know what it is (please, ask a MAGA to define it for you). As I have said before, his policies are popular in America as a whole, I heard 70% of Americans approve at times. Maybe, just maybe...its time to talk to those people?

[Momma There Goes That Man]

7 hours ago, NoCalMike said:

If FDR was running in 2020 he would be probably be accused of the same thing. 

 

If Republican hero’s Lincoln and Eisenhower ran for president in 2020 they would be rejected by republicans and called socialists 

[The Evil Genius]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Bozo the kKklown]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/03/pete-buttigieg-on-police-controversy-said-all-lives-matter-in-2015.html

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Some critics of Black Lives Matter use the phrase "all lives matter" as a counter slogan. Black Lives Matter activists oppose America's disproportionate police violence against black people. When Democratic contenders Hillary Clinton and Martin O'Malley said "all lives matter" in 2015 during the last presidential primary race, those comments earned fierce pushback from progressives.

 

Buttigieg's comments about race and policing, as well as his record on race as mayor, could prove to be another lightning rod as voters seek out more information on Buttigieg, the only candidate polling above 1 percent without ever holding federal office.

 

Some local activists have for years been critical of Buttigieg's economic policies, which they say have disproportionately benefited white residents while doing little to address a higher unemployment rate among minorities. His critics also say Buttigieg's comments as mayor don't always stack up against his progressive rhetoric as a presidential candidate.

 

"That's four years ago, but it was not that long ago. It was not a time when 'all lives matter' was a smart thing to say, or reflective of someone who is concerned about black people being killed by the police," said Nate Levin-Aspenson, a local organizer in South Bend.

 

"What I would say is, take a look at what he is saying now, and compare that to his record as mayor. See what you find," Levin-Aspenson said.

Buttigieg's comments could also put a spotlight on one of the more controversial aspects of his tenure as mayor of South Bend, involving secret recordings allegedly made of South Bend police officers at the direction of the city's first African-American police chief, Darryl Boykins. Buttigieg demoted Boykins, who ultimately obtained a $75,000 settlement from the city after suing over what he described as Buttigieg's "racial animus."

 

The officers believed to be recorded in the tapes also obtained a settlement from the city, for $500,000.

 

 

 

 

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[nonniey]

13 hours ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

 

If Republican hero’s Lincoln and Eisenhower ran for president in 2020 they would be rejected by republicans and called socialists 

Unfortunately I can't say you are wrong. However the only support they would get would be from a minority/portion of Republicans,  as the Dems would certainly call them bigoted, warmongers.

[No Excuses]

@ixcuincle your boy Andrew Yang did an interview for WIRED.

 

https://www.wired.com/story/andrew-yangs-presidential-bid-is-so-very-21st-century/

 

I am digging his views on climate change and the need for geoengineering. I am officially entertaining him as a serious candidate.

20 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

 

This is getting out of hand now. He has no business running for POTUS.

[ixcuincle]

7 minutes ago, No Excuses said:

@ixcuincle your boy Andrew Yang did an interview for WIRED.

 

https://www.wired.com/story/andrew-yangs-presidential-bid-is-so-very-21st-century/

 

I am digging his views on climate change and the need for geoengineering. I am officially entertaining him as a serious candidate.

 

This is getting out of hand now. He has no business running for POTUS.

they gave him one of those CNN town halls at last on April 14

[Llevron]

10 minutes ago, No Excuses said:

This is getting out of hand now. He has no business running for POTUS.

 

Hes got the TV chops for it. And people think thats important now so its a thing. 

 

I dont mind having too many candidates though. I hope they get in the race, learn lessons, do it again in the next 40 years and make the party stronger and more versatile. 

 

That may be asking alot. 

[Hersh]

43 minutes ago, No Excuses said:

 

This is getting out of hand now. He has no business running for POTUS.

 

100% agree. Tim Ryan of Ohio announced today he is running. Seth Moulton of Mass is thinking about it. 

 

Tim Ryan might be a good VP candidate which is why I think he is running. 

 

 

[Captain Wiggles]

Of course Swalwell is running. Dude's never met a camera he didn't like. 

[Chachie]

Checked in to this thread to offer one small factoid...

 

Since 1933, only 3 presidents were NOT elected to a 2nd term in office. Ford (was never elected anyway), Carter, and Bush Sr. That's terrifying to me when I think about 2020. 

 

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[Captain Wiggles]

11 minutes ago, Chachie said:

Checked in to this thread to offer one small factoid...

 

Since 1933, only 3 presidents were NOT elected to a 2nd term in office. Ford (was never elected anyway), Carter, and Bush Sr. That's terrifying to me when I think about 2020. 

 

 

Absolutley terrifying. Incumbent Presidents are very tough to beat. One of the main reasons I fear Trump has a very good chance of being reelected. 

[PleaseBlitz]

50 minutes ago, Chachie said:

Checked in to this thread to offer one small factoid...

 

Since 1933, only 3 presidents were NOT elected to a 2nd term in office. Ford (was never elected anyway), Carter, and Bush Sr. That's terrifying to me when I think about 2020. 

 

 

39 minutes ago, clietas said:

 

Absolutley terrifying. Incumbent Presidents are very tough to beat. One of the main reasons I fear Trump has a very good chance of being reelected. 

 

It is terrifying, and hopefully this time people won't take it as a given that he'll lose.

 

I look at the factoid that only 3 incumbents have not been reelected, and it's scary, but I take heart in the fact that Trump is so clearly very different from all previous Presidents (in that he was so clearly unqualified to begin with, and hasn't grown into the job).  

[PleaseBlitz]

Relevant to Bernie on Fox News:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/03/press-needs-stop-giving-sanders-free-ride/?utm_term=.60699b4ba3cc

 

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Through much of the 2016 campaign, the press maintained a glaring double standard. Since then-candidate Donald Trump was, well Trump, he was rarely grilled on his policy notions (where’s your fabulous health-care plan? why should we believe you have one?), confronted with his outright lies or quizzed face to face on his finances. If a reporter had the audacity to ask a question, Trump would shy away and no follow-ups would be forthcoming.

 

The same pattern now repeats itself with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). He is indulged, allowed to skip by details, avoid probing and evade hard policy questions. We’d like to hear him pinned down, not permitted to move to the next topic without answering queries such as these:

• You promised over a month ago to release your tax returns. Why haven’t you? You say you just need to fix a few things, but aren’t past tax returns completed? Why does it take over a month to get them posted online? What things do you need to fix?
• You shut down a foundation recently. What percentage of donations were used to pay your son and other family members? How much did you take in? What was spent on programs? Who were your major donors?
• Most of your major initiatives (e.g., Medicare-for-all) have never passed or gotten even majority support from Democrats. Are they all corrupt? How will you get plans through when many Democrats don’t support your plans and when the Senate filibuster remains?
• What are your top legislative accomplishments in the Senate?
• What did you fail to do on the 2016 campaign that allowed female staffers to be harassed? How could you not have known what was going on? If you couldn’t run an harassment-free campaign, why should voters think you can run an administration free from harassment?
• Isn’t it time for the Democratic Party to nominate a woman for president? Why don’t you support one of them?
• When will we see your medical records? You will be 79 years old on Election Day 2020. Isn’t there a legitimate concern you’ll be too old to serve and/or complete your term?
• Explain what AI is and how it will affect our economy, please.
• Should we increase legal immigration? Farmers need seasonal labor now. Do you support increasing guest-worker visas?
• Should we enact a ban on assault-style weapons?
• You voted for the 1994 crime bill that resulted in mass incarceration, disproportionately of African American men. Why?
• Is Venezuela President Nicolás Maduro a dictator? Is Raúl Castro?
• What specific provisions in the Trans-Pacific Partnership do you think justified rejecting the entire deal?
• Do you support trade tariffs? Who pays the cost of tariffs?
• Is capitalism inherently corrupt? Do you acknowledge that worldwide capitalism has lifted billions of people out of poverty?
• You oppose reparations. How, then, would you address the wealth gap between African Americans and whites?

 

For the record, a few of those i think either don't matter, or are stupid.  

[Simmsy]

1 hour ago, clietas said:

 

Absolutley terrifying. Incumbent Presidents are very tough to beat. One of the main reasons I fear Trump has a very good chance of being reelected. 

True, but don't forget: Trump is literally the most unpopular president since pollsters started polling. 9/11 and Iraq got G.W. reelected, so unless Trump decides to start a war...

[Bozo the kKklown]

1 hour ago, Chachie said:

Checked in to this thread to offer one small factoid...

 

Since 1933, only 3 presidents were NOT elected to a 2nd term in office. Ford (was never elected anyway), Carter, and Bush Sr. That's terrifying to me when I think about 2020. 

 

One thing to remember is that Trump is not normal.

[NoCalMike]

3 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

Relevant to Bernie on Fox News:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/03/press-needs-stop-giving-sanders-free-ride/?utm_term=.60699b4ba3cc

 

 

For the record, a few of those i think either don't matter, or are stupid.  

 

It's a pretty ridiculous comparison to begin with.  Do I agree that Bernie could/probably should be pressed for more details on his healthcare plan?  Sure, totally.  However, when it comes to Trump he has never offered any actual idea on what his philosophy is on healthcare or what kind of direction he'd take healthcare in the event of Obamacare going away.

 

We know where Bernie stands, but would like more details. We have zero idea at all what Trump would like to do, yet he wants to upend the current system anyway.