Barry.Randolphe Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I really wish they'd make an example out of all these idiots and break out the gallows on the national mall - these people are traitors to the country and should be treated as such. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said: They have to decide if they will re-try before the DC trial. Ah, thanks. 11-1, pretty good odds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 This is why I think we should test out advanced machine learning/AI as jurors. Remove the political bias, cultural, racial, emotional elements, etc from it and base it purely on the available evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, mistertim said: This is why I think we should test out advanced machine learning/AI as jurors. Remove the political bias, cultural, racial, emotional elements, etc from it and base it purely on the available evidence. I'd agree with you, however, serving on a jury is the second civic responsibility we have right after voting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, mistertim said: This is why I think we should test out advanced machine learning/AI as jurors. Remove the political bias, cultural, racial, emotional elements, etc from it and base it purely on the available evidence. More things to be hacked. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, mistertim said: This is why I think we should test out advanced machine learning/AI as jurors. Remove the political bias, cultural, racial, emotional elements, etc from it and base it purely on the available evidence. Why so they can be hacked too? 12 minutes ago, Metalhead said: More things to be hacked. I've seen iRobot. No thanks 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Reality Winner: Reality loser: 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, DogofWar1 said: Oh good. More fodder for QAnon folk. I was thinking something similar. A whole bunch of Trumpettes are now going to begin reciting that the Russian hacking that happened in '16 was actually the Dems hacking themselves. "They just admitted it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 42 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: Why so they can be hacked too? I've seen iRobot. No thanks "What is the jury's verdict on this petty larceny charge?" "Kill all humans." "Whoa don't get ahead of me, we'll get to sentencing in a minute." 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: Why so they can be hacked too? I've seen iRobot. No thanks Actually, these are good points. Remember when Microsoft released Tay, its AI twitter bot that learned from its interactions and created responses as it learned? Yeah, within a day the internet had turned into a racist asshole spouting off about how Hitler was right and all immigrants are scum. (wait, are we sure that "Tay" wasn't actually just Stephen Miller sitting around at his house on his laptop?) 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 7 hours ago, Bang said: How did a woman with such obvious impartiality issues end up on the jury? ~Bang I bet someone said they have to have at least one person who doesn't hate trumps guts. Hopefully they don't make that mistake again. 1 hour ago, mistertim said: This is why I think we should test out advanced machine learning/AI as jurors. Remove the political bias, cultural, racial, emotional elements, etc from it and base it purely on the available evidence. You can't program for grey areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: I bet someone said they have to have at least one person who doesn't hate trumps guts. Hopefully they don't make that mistake again. It's a tricky situation though, because of the demonstrated nature of most hard core Trump supporters. They are more or less immune to facts and tend to actually be fact-averse. So while everyone on a jury is a human being and will have their own political beliefs, and they will hopefully still try to be impartial when making a decision as a juror, Trump supporters pose a significant quandary because there's a high likelihood that their brains will simply ignore evidence that goes against their views of Trump (even if it is a tangential connection ala Manafort) and will dig in no matter what. Seems like that was the case with this lady. Though, to be fair to her, she did vote for guilty on some of the charges so I guess there was still some sort of threshold where even she couldn't deny that it was obvious Manafort was guilty as absolute ****. Edited August 23, 2018 by mistertim 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, DogofWar1 said: "What is the jury's verdict on this petty larceny charge?" "Kill all humans." "Whoa don't get ahead of me, we'll get to sentencing in a minute." To be honest, given the current state of our society and country right now, that might actually be the best end result... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I don't get the punishment for Reality Winner. Am I wrong on that? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: I don't get the punishment for Reality Winner. Am I wrong on that? Am I wrong to immediately think we are talking about a horse? Not going thru proper channels and deliberately not using the whistleblower venue means blatant violation of national security protocol and no simple slap on the wrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 >>>Investigation or no, the evidence has always been right in front of us. Here it is.<<< We Already Know Trump Is Betraying His Country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 hours ago, mistertim said: are we sure that "Tay" wasn't actually just Stephen Miller sitting around at his house on his laptop? Yes, because it took a day to start spewing filth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, visionary said: I wouldn't be so sure about that. Trump has already essentially fired the entire concepts of Truth and Irony less than 2 years into his presidency. He could probably make short work of SDNY. Edited August 23, 2018 by mistertim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 hours ago, DogofWar1 said: Cybersecurity shouldn't be this damn hard We have idiots hiring idiots for the most part. Hence the difficulties. 1 hour ago, The Evil Genius said: I don't get the punishment for Reality Winner. Am I wrong on that? The less important you are the harder you get punished for leaking classified information. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I'm actually ok with both her being punished for leaking and the fact that she leaked it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 She leaked it to a Russian asset in Glenn Greenwald too. Was never gonna end well for her. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: I'm actually ok with both her being punished for leaking and the fact that she leaked it. She seems happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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