88Comrade2000 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 39 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: Sadly we havent seen how ugly this is going to get. All pretense is removed Cant shake the feeling that we are headed towards seeing people die over this **** Civil war. If the GOP regains full control , dark times ahead. The more blue states and cities will have no choice but to declare independence from the tyranny of a 2nd Trump term. Trump won't allow that and China style, will send in troops. The civil war will then start. I know you think I am crazy but I believe that will be the result if the GOP gets full control again. Trump will finish the country off in a second term, especially if the GOP has full control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superozman Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Around here as in ES? There's like 3 people here that are Republicans. There isn't enough here to be a drove to leave. 1 here. I think TWA is another. Looking for the third. I might post more if I find he or she. 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Rdskns2000 said: Trump's poll numbers among the GOP has increased after his racist comments. The GOP voter has no problem with what Trump said because they agree with him and are as racist as he is. Not quite that; it's just pure pettiness. The GOP voter likes to bother you and likes to watch Trump bother you because he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I gave them a lot longer than I should have. My final straw was the muslim travel ban. I did too. My final straw was when obamas term started. Then I realized their campaign tactics weren’t just campaign tactics, that they were going to treat him poorly through the entire presidency because he’s black. Also it was around then I realized their economic theories and ideas are dumb and wrong. Now I vote dems unless it’s a bad candidate then I vote third party. Between the guns, the race stuff, their economic policies and tax policies it’s hard to fathom voting for them ever again. It would require the party to completely reform and restructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, superozman said: 1 here. I think TWA is another. Neither one of you is a Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superozman Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Neither one of you is a Republican. Ok! Thank you very much for clarifying for me, on behalf of me! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, superozman said: Ok! Thank you very much for clarifying for me, on behalf of me! 😂 I mean, you're not bro. Not sure what you want me to tell you. Republicanism is a set of values. You guys just believe whatever the GOP tells you to believe and the current GOP doesn't operate with conservative values. I'm more of a Republican than either one of you. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Neither one of you is a Republican. You're right - he's a dirty Phillies fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, tshile said: Now I vote dems unless it’s a bad candidate then I vote third party. On the more local level I've voted R. But there very first thing I check is are they pro-Trump. If so, they don't get my vote. But I've found a few that aren't pro-trump that I like their policies. But I'm talking like county commishoner level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: On the more local level I've voted R. But there very first thing I check is are they pro-Trump. I do that here too. And theyre always pro-trump ive had neighbors try to convince me that it doesn’t matter at this level. I always tell them that if they cannot admit how awful trump is then they don’t deserve any political position. Just my opinion. 4 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: I mean, you're not bro. Not sure what you want me to tell you. Republicanism is a set of values. You guys just believe whatever the GOP tells you to believe and the current GOP doesn't operate with conservative values. I'm more of a Republican than either one of you. Sorry. You’ll have better luck explaining to someone who’s been blind since birth what the color blue looks like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: On the more local level I've voted R. But there very first thing I check is are they pro-Trump. If so, they don't get my vote. But I've found a few that aren't pro-trump that I like their policies. But I'm talking like county commishoner level. There's a massive difference between local and national politics. Around here Democrats still get elected a the local level because they are the Blue Dog Dems of old, pro union, fiscally conservative etc. But like you, if they are a Trump supporter I don't give a **** I will not vote for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: I mean, you're not bro. Not sure what you want me to tell you. Republicanism is a set of values. You guys just believe whatever the GOP tells you to believe and the current GOP doesn't operate with conservative values. I'm more of a Republican than either one of you. Sorry. When George Will says that the Conservative party is a cult, that's all you need to know. I cannot figure out why they are so ****ing afraid to hold their own accountable. They've abandoned nearly every Conservative value that once defined Republicanism and now it's been reduced to Pro-Trump, anti-ghey, forcing 11 year olds to carry their pedophile uncle's kid to term, anti-brown immigrant, and unrestricted gun proliferation. Those are the ONLY consistent values left in the GOP, because they sure as hell aren't conservative any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I still dont know how we start to fix this. I want to say it starts with Trump out of office, but I can tell now that wont be the end of it. He can go, but these **** head voters will still be here and they really have the power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Llevron said: I still dont know how we start to fix this. Campaign finance reform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Campaign finance reform Yea thats a very good start, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superozman Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: I mean, you're not bro. Not sure what you want me to tell you. Republicanism is a set of values. You guys just believe whatever the GOP tells you to believe and the current GOP doesn't operate with conservative values. I'm more of a Republican than either one of you. Sorry. Ha! ok. Thank you for telling me more about me! Can you tell me what I have to do this weekend, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, superozman said: Ha! ok. Thank you for telling me more about me! Can you tell me what I have to do this weekend, too? I've seen your posts. I'm not just imagining that I know what you believe. You've told us what you believe. And seeing as how I ain't stupid and I don't feel any need to pretend, I can say with absolute certainty that what you believe (which is actually nothing because if I locked you in a room for two years and you didn't get fed your belief system from GOP propagandists, you wouldn't know what to say about any given subject) does not align with actual Republicanism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytoAli Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 18 hours ago, visionary said: Welcome to African American historical experience with white male power and dominance. This dude is just realizing that he has been blind to the fact that he can be on the downside of it too instead of just benefiting from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, superozman said: Ok! Thank you very much for clarifying for me, on behalf of me! 😂 not to worry, amigo---they'll have to go through me to get to you i have survived this place so far and so will you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Campaign finance reform Need a new Supreme Court majority. First get Trump out and usher in a Democratic Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, Llevron said: I still dont know how we start to fix this. I want to say it starts with Trump out of office, but I can tell now that wont be the end of it. He can go, but these **** head voters will still be here and they really have the power. Define fix and how badly do you want it? there are options. None of them are easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, Llevron said: I still dont know how we start to fix this. One quick step would be open primaries. While finance reform is a great idea, it's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superozman Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: I've seen your posts. I'm not just imagining that I know what you believe. You've told us what you believe. And seeing as how I ain't stupid and I don't feel any need to pretend, I can say with absolute certainty that what you believe (which is actually nothing because if I locked you in a room for two years and you didn't get fed your belief system from GOP propagandists, you wouldn't know what to say about any given subject) does not align with actual Republicanism. Being that you are serious, it appears, I have a serious question. Can you help me with what would you consider me, and what examples are there that I am not on the Republican side of things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 55 minutes ago, superozman said: 1 here. I think TWA is another. Looking for the third. I might post more if I find he or she. 👀 Where are you these days? I thought you lived in Mexico. Maybe I’m mis-remembering things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Busch1724 said: it's not going to happen. This is why I don't think it will ever get fixed. The things that need to happen, won't. 1 minute ago, superozman said: Can you help me with what would you consider me I could come up with a few things but they wouldn't make it past the profanity filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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