Simmsy Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I have some questions, I'm kinda stuck on the minute details here: 1. Why does it have to be 218? I'm guessing a certain percentage of the house has to approve? 2. If Jefferies reaches 218, does he automatically win? 3. Is this vote just a formality like the primaries? Could they, the house in majority, just choose someone and say "you're it" or does there have to be a vote in congress? 4. Does the GOP ultimately have the final say on who the speaker is because they're a majority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Simmsy said: I have some questions, I'm kinda stuck on the minute details here: 1. Why does it have to be 218? I'm guessing a certain percentage of the house has to approve? 2. If Jefferies reaches 218, does he automatically win? 3. Is this vote just a formality like the primaries? Could they, the house in majority, just choose someone and say "you're it" or does there have to be a vote in congress? 4. Does the GOP ultimately have the final say on who the speaker is because they're a majority? 1. 50% + 1 of the countable votes 2. Yes 3. Has to be a vote 4. No. I could be wrong, though lol... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Hahaha. Santos spaced out and didn't respond when the clerk called his name! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I just dont want them to put Trump in the speaker position. Couldn't they? That would be my nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Just now, Dan T. said: Hahaha. Santos spaced out and didn't respond when the clerk called his name! He forgot which name he was using today lol... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 The KM objectors don't have a plan. The other 200 are being pretty polite. I saw Boebert and the guy before her speak. She tried to but a polite face on everything but at the end of they day they are slandering a guy who is a pretty run of the mill conservative. Why would the other 200 allow the terrorists to hijack the caucus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Oh, yeah, this is going great lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Simmsy said: I have some questions, I'm kinda stuck on the minute details here: 1. Why does it have to be 218? I'm guessing a certain percentage of the house has to approve? To win you have to win a majority of the votes cast. There are 435 voting members. 435/2 = 217.5, so you need 218 votes to win a majority. 1 minute ago, Simmsy said: 2. If Jefferies reaches 218, does he automatically win? Yep. 1 minute ago, Simmsy said: 3. Is this vote just a formality like the primaries? Could they, the house in majority, just choose someone and say "you're it" or does there have to be a vote in congress? No, its a real thing or we wouldn't be witnessing the events of yesterday and today. 1 minute ago, Simmsy said: 4. Does the GOP ultimately have the final say on who the speaker is because they're a majority? Only if they stick together, which they don't seem capable of doing. If the Dems could peel of 6 Republicans and that bloc all vote for someone, that person would be Speaker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since a Fetus Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, gbear said: I just dont want them to put Trump in the speaker position. Couldn't they? That would be my nightmare. Word is JFK might get it first. Everyone is still waiting on his return though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Fergasun said: The KM objectors don't have a plan. The other 200 are being pretty polite. I saw Boebert and the guy before her speak. She tried to but a polite face on everything but at the end of they day they are slandering a guy who is a pretty run of the mill conservative. Why would the other 200 allow the terrorists to hijack the caucus... Dan Crenshaw is done with being polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: 1. 50% + 1 of the countable votes 2. Yes 3. Has to be a vote 4. No. I could be wrong, though lol... 2 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: To win you have to win a majority of the votes cast. There are 435 voting members. 435/2 = 217.5, so you need 218 votes to win a majority. Yep. No, its a real thing or we wouldn't be witnessing the events of yesterday and today. Only if they stick together, which they don't seem capable of doing. If the Dems could peel of 6 Republicans and that bloc all vote for someone, that person would be Speaker. Ok, I wasn't sure if the simple majority vote was in place or if we were in some type of filibuster situation here they needed to have a percentage and then a majority if all else fails. Also, someone gave me the impression that the GOP had the final say in this and could delay it for months (by simply wanting to delay it, not by skimming votes) if they got a result they didn't like. Good to know the GOP is in real trouble here...I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Watching this all happen may be one of the top 5 happiest moments of my life. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ball Security said: That would be some ballsy game theory in action. Yet, my money would be on it working with the 20 hold outs forced to pick between McCarthy and a Dem for speaker ( with the present votes the Dems would then have a majority unless the Republicans united behind a single person). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 This is quintessential GOP-ness: Byron Daniels was convicted in Florida of a felony bribery charge as part of a scheme to defraud a bank. He later served in the Florida State House of Representatives and was made chairman of... The Insurance and Banking Subcommittee. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, Simmsy said: Ok, I wasn't sure if the simple majority vote was in place or if we were in some type of filibuster situation here they needed to have a percentage and then a majority if all else fails. Also, someone gave me the impression that the GOP had the final say in this and could delay it for months (by simply wanting to delay it, not by skimming votes) if they got a result they didn't like. Good to know the GOP is in real trouble here...I hope. Simple majority vote all the time in the House. Only the Senate has a filibuster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: Only if they stick together, which they don't seem capable of doing. If the Dems could peel of 6 Republicans and that bloc all vote for someone, that person would be Speaker. It seems like the Democrats should be working on this. Any idea that they are? Even somebody like Liz Cheney would be a plus from a Democrat perspective. I guess all the Dems wouldn't vote for Liz Cheney so you'd need more than 6 of the GOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl05 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 I wonder what happens if you vote in a bunch of whackadoodles who are chaos agents who don't believe in governance or process? I guess the GOP is finding out. Hilarious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, PeterMP said: It seems like the Democrats should be working on this. Any idea that they are? Even somebody like Liz Cheney would be a plus from a Democrat perspective. I guess all the Dems wouldn't vote for Liz Cheney so you'd need more than 6 of the GOP. They have been courting Upton. He impeached Trump and is no longer in Congress. I believe there are only two remaining, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Spotted outside the House Chamber where the magnetometer used to be: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted January 4, 2023 Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 Made this thread thinking the Speaker vote would be over by now, and we'd be talking about whatever investigations had been launched already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PleaseBlitz Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, PeterMP said: It seems like the Democrats should be working on this. Any idea that they are? Even somebody like Liz Cheney would be a plus from a Democrat perspective. I guess all the Dems wouldn't vote for Liz Cheney so you'd need more than 6 of the GOP. There have been some rumblings that the Dems could get behind a moderate Republican. No names have emerged as far as I know. For now, I think the Dems are content to sit back and let the GOP look bad and hurt each others feelings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Allowing Jeffries to win would just anger the terrorists even more. Do they want to go through the kabuki where Jeffries gets the Speaker and then is immediately removed as Speaker by the GOP majority. How would that look to the nation. At this point these 20 terrorists are demanding process changes to the House that may even be untenable to the other 200. Favor on setting agenda, committee chairs and using the "drain the swamp" as an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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