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[Fan since a Fetus]

32 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

Under weather and hard to write so will be quick.

 

Fertita is worst kind of owner we could possibly get. Was my hope for Harris or Bezos in that order.

 

Great fear was Snyder find clone of himsekf to sell to and hurt us out of spite on his way out.

 

He just may have done so.

 

Hope not.

Glad to see you are alive. Welcome back, unless you’ve been here the whole time. 

[FrFan]

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell was angered by Daniel Snyder’s indemnification demand, according to one of the people with knowledge of the matter. The league and owners are prepared to fight Snyder legally if necessary, that person said, but would prefer for Jones to convince Snyder to accept a record price for his team and leave the league without a confrontation in court. The owners believe any vote they might take to remove Snyder would survive a legal challenge, according to that person.

“It just seems to get worse. … If you want to sue, fine,” that person said. “If you want to fight, we’ll fight. … [But] hopefully in the long run, through just talking to him, he’ll realize this isn’t the way to go.”

Asked what Snyder and his attorneys are seeking to be indemnified against, the person said, “Literally everything.” Link

 

WT: How would that process work? Would the NFL take over the team until a new owner is found?

WT: What legal avenues might Snyder pursue to stop the NFL from forcing him to sell?

 

[spjunkies]

Fold the franchise, Roger. Let us start from scratch. 

[Riggo#44]

3 minutes ago, spjunkies said:

Fold the franchise, Roger. Let us start from scratch. 

But then what would they bilk for all he was worth like Snyder does with Sean Taylor?

[goskins10]

Remove the team from the NFL and award a new franchise.  I hate to lose the history but it would be worth it to get rid of Dan.   Besides, they can’t take my memories.  

[CobraCommander]

19 minutes ago, goskins10 said:

Remove the team from the NFL and award a new franchise.  I hate to lose the history but it would be worth it to get rid of Dan.   Besides, they can’t take my memories.  

I’d argue we already lost our history.

[bearrock]

Couple of things.  Brandt's tweet is as weak as it gets.  "FWIW, a reader heard from Fertitta's son." Frankly, it's a non-story.

 

As for Fertitta as owner.  His history with the Rockets is short, so it's hard to take too much out of it.  He came it during the last throes of the Harden Era.  People apparently blame him for not extending the window by not going into lux for Trevor Ariza (meh).  Supposedly he turned down a better package from Philly for Harden out of spite towards Morey (that's troubling).  The team is embracing the tank (tbf, many Wizards fans are torching Leonsis for being stuck in perpetual mediocrity.  Tank to rebuild in the NBA is the right approach unless you are a destination franchise).

 

Unlike Snyder, Fertitta actually made his money with successful business operations, not dumb luck.  

 

Apparently he sold part of his casino ops for 1.7 billion to Draft Kings, so he probably has liquidity up to a certain point.  But seems like he won't be able to get to 6 billion all that easily. 

 

I don't know.  I would be happy with Harris or Bezos.  This guy would give me pause.  I don't think him being a bad owner is a foregone conclusion though.

[RWJ]

Pulling for Harris to take over. 

[kingdaddy]

9 minutes ago, RWJ said:

Pulling for Harris to take over. 

Me too, I think that's the best we can hope for. Harris would be a good owner and wouldn't jump to change in personnel and staff except where it called for immediately. He'd also spend to win based on what he does with the Sixers. 

[Conn]

Rick Snider doesn’t know anything at all. Wouldn’t take his musings about potential ownership as anything beyond what you’d read on this board. 

[FootballZombie]

I'm still in the bag for B-Money. All I really want out of an owner is a guy who stays outta the way and signs checks, and for a guy like Bezos who has much bigger moneymakers beyond our franchise to worry about rather than domineer everything we do, he fits the bill. If you get an owner who's wealth is pretty much entirely tied to the team we are kinda their whole day, and they have nothing better to do.

 

Like others, I put no stock in a report that claims inside info when there is almost certainly none to be had.

 

Nobody is breaking a multi-billion dollar NDA.

Even worse: nobody is openly naming the source that broke the NDA. That would be pure stupidity.

 

I was born at night, but not last night.

[Andre The Giant]

 

[spjunkies]

2 minutes ago, Conn said:

Rick Snider doesn’t know anything at all. Wouldn’t take his musings about potential ownership as anything beyond what you’d read on this board. 

 

Give me 2 minutes and I'll explain why you're incorrect. 

[@DCGoldPants]

1 hour ago, Warhead36 said:

I'm not sure the league would even approve Fertitta. He ain't exactly liquid.

 

Besides being "liquid", I also wonder who the other owners would approve. For the sake of their bank accounts. They want a new ownership group who can cut at check for both the franchise and stadium in short order. 

[Redwards]

2 hours ago, SoCalSkins said:

He bought the Rockets on nearly 100% debt. He doesn’t have any liquidity to meet NFL rules. The owners would have to waive debt requirements for him in order to get approved plus he had gambling entanglements. The main question is would the owners push back on dumping Snyder? A waiver for Fertitta would solve their Dan headache so I’m not sure they would push back. 

IF that were the case, then the NFL will have slit their own throats with regards to hoping to resurrect this market.  It's literally trading Dan for a guy who is just another horrible owner who has no resources whatsoever to save the market, let alone get a first class stadium build, which is critical to the league.  The NFL wouldn't be changing the situation here whatsoever; they'd still be stuck in the same headache, it'd just go by another name (minus Dan's horrible human being aspect, of course).

 

I just can't see the league being that ridiculously and laughably short-sighted.  By approving him, you may be swapping owners, but you'd be all but guaranteeing the final nail in the coffin for the D.C. market.  

 

But we just gotta let this thing ride out.  IF the league gives us Snyder 2.0, then it's over for good it would seem.

[Rufus T Firefly]

4 hours ago, Redwards said:

Hell is supposed to have 7 levels.  Dan has brought us to the 7th level for sure.  BUT...there are a lot of truly terrible owners who occupy the other six levels of sports hell.  

 

Just because it isn't Dan doesn't mean we're going to be better.  Just about every conceivable aspect of this organization and market is on the 7th level.  It will take a GREAT owner who has a ton of money and is willing to invest it into the team and market to give us a chance at redemption.  

FWIW, there were 9 circles of Hell in Dante's Inferno, which is what I assume you're referencing. 

 

Now, back to your regularly scheduled freak outs over what the rumor of the day is. 

[SoCalSkins]

25 minutes ago, Redwards said:

IF that were the case, then the NFL will have slit their own throats with regards to hoping to resurrect this market.  It's literally trading Dan for a guy who is just another horrible owner who has no resources whatsoever to save the market, let alone get a first class stadium build, which is critical to the league.  The NFL wouldn't be changing the situation here whatsoever; they'd still be stuck in the same headache, it'd just go by another name (minus Dan's horrible human being aspect, of course).

 

I just can't see the league being that ridiculously and laughably short-sighted.  By approving him, you may be swapping owners, but you'd be all but guaranteeing the final nail in the coffin for the D.C. market.  

 

But we just gotta let this thing ride out.  IF the league gives us Snyder 2.0, then it's over for good it would seem.

I don’t disagree but I’m not sure if the NFL wants to draw this out. If they find an exit ramp they might take it regardless of how unattractive. 
 

When all the dust settles I think it will be Bezos at just under $7B. 

[Skinsinparadise]

wish I was there

Edited March 5, 2023 by Skinsinparadise

[Skinsinparadise]

 

 

[vegeta613]

Sounds like a Mexican standoff.  NFL wants Bezos to own the team and Dan Snyder is basicly saying he isn't going to swallow his pride and sell to him unless the NFL indemnifies him

NFL then threatens to rip the team from him and sell to Bezos anyway

[Skinsinparadise]

5 hours ago, Redwards said:

For those that say "Anybody but Dan is better", you may want to really think about what you're saying.

 

Hell is supposed to have 7 levels.  Dan has brought us to the 7th level for sure.  BUT...there are a lot of truly terrible owners who occupy the other six levels of sports hell.  

 

Just because it isn't Dan doesn't mean we're going to be better.  Just about every conceivable aspect of this organization and market is on the 7th level.  It will take a GREAT owner who has a ton of money and is willing to invest it into the team and market to give us a chance at redemption.  

 

I don't just want a new owner...I want a great owner who is willing to do what it takes.  Fertitta ain't that guy by a damn sight.  IF he does end up with the team, I think I'm done.

 

It's 3 different points.

 

A.  Wanting a great owner

 

B.  Anybody but Dan is better

 

C.  Just because Dan is gone we are going to get better.

 

We all want the best owner of course.

 

Yeah the odds are almost 100% IMO that anyone but Dan is better.

 

Dan leaving doesn't guarantee results, indeed.  But him being here just about ensures we are on the same hamster wheel of mediocre to poor play.

 

Dan IMO isn't just a run of the mill bad owner as we know.  Yes there are pleny of other bad owners.  But Dan's dysfunction IMO puts him in another galaxy of bad.  It's like comparing an F student who ended with with a 58 average versus an F student who averaged a 2 out of 100.  Bad versus insanely bad.

Edited March 5, 2023 by Skinsinparadise

[Skinsinparadise]

the atmosphere can come back.  I've been to RFK.  I remember

 

 

 

[Leonard Washington]

10 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

He can get a first for Kirk, but heck lets flub that turn it into a 3rd round comp pick, a first for Trent but lets wait it out and lower his trade value and get a third.

 

It would be fitting for Dan to cost himself some serious money in that same token.

 

He gets fleeced in just about every trade-negotiation, why not here too?

He is potential screwing over the entire NFL. The higher the price, the more it benefits the other teams’ valuation and BoA’s reputation. 

[RedDawn]

An important question occurred to me.  Given that news of a sale could drop out of the blue anytime between now and never… where would be the best place in Northern Virginia to go impromptu to celebrate with other fans? 

[Andre The Giant]