dunfer Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, PartyPosse said: no one has ever tanked despite what some think. i dont know...the Suck for Luck/Rg3 year, I remember irsay doing something blatant or two. Cant recall exactly. mabye cutting peyton Edited November 14, 2021 by dunfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, Painkiller said: this is a fan construct. Can we say that it has never happened where an organization tried to lose...no...but you also can't show me where it was worth doing for that team. Andrew Luck was supposed to be a generational talent. He was a good QB, but he was not that guy. I think people confuse evaluation with tanking. No team has ever put out the worst team they could possibly field solely in the hopes of losing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dunfer said: i dont know...the Suck for Luck/Rg3 year, I remember irsay doing something blatant or two. Cant recall exactly. mabye cutting peyton? fat fingers Edited November 14, 2021 by dunfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bacon said: If no one had ever tanked, Doug Pederson would still be in Philly. Nah. They just didn’t give a **** about winning. They didn’t care who won the division and they’d already said they were going to play sudfeld prior to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skinsmarydu Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, Bacon said: If no one had ever tanked, Doug Pederson would still be in Philly. Dude has been off the rails all day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Washington 30 Tampa Bay 24 I called it. They balled it ! 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Brady looked a little scared today...not himself, lots of quick checkdowns. I think Del Rio got in his head a little bit....that and Jonathon Allens early hit made him pretty average today. What can we do to Cam next week????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, PartyPosse said: I think people confuse evaluation with tanking. No team has ever put out the worst team they could possibly field solely in the hopes of losing. True, maybe? Where are you really going with this? RR doesn't want anything but wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said: True, maybe? Where are you really going with this? RR doesn't want anything but wins. Just saying I don’t think tanking is a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 D Carter might be a better player than the coaches expected, he makes plays when he gets the chance. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, PartyPosse said: Just saying I don’t think tanking is a thing. and I agree. Like you said though evaluating and tanking are not the same thing. Not that any of them would ever admit to this anyway, but I would question the intelligence of any coach, GM, or owner if their apparent motive is to lose games on purpose to get a high draft pick or to pick up a specific player in the draft. To me it's the epitome of a loser mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Probably prisoner of the moment, but this was my favorite game from him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Painkiller said: and I agree. Like you said though evaluating and tanking are not the same thing. Not that any of them would ever admit to this anyway, but I would question the intelligence of any coach, GM, or owner if their apparent motive is to lose games on purpose to get a high draft pick or to pick up a specific player in the draft. To me it's the epitome of a loser mentality. 100%. You’d be risking your own career if that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 If all you needed was the magic QB, then front offices would probably dump players left and right to tank at the right time. Problem is, building a winning FB team is more complicated than that. You can't just rebuild it all overnight once you have the QB, and you risk ruining him if he plays on a really bad team with no weapons and no protection. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmandoug1 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, PartyPosse said: 100%. You’d be risking your own career if that was the case. Not only that...but what player wants to tank? Just don't get that mentality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, wit33 said: Probably prisoner of the moment, but this was my favorite game from him. Ok, But I’d also like to point out until the last drive Gibby was 11 carries for 15 yards, basically 1.5 yards per carry. He had a few good runs late in the game to make the overall numbers look Less awful. Some of this is on Scott Turner’s obsession with running for no yards on first down. I thought Gibson had some good runs, but the only reason the offense worked is because they kept on converting 3rd downs after the running game out them behind the sticks on first down. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Malapropismic Depository said: I called it. They balled it ! You called it, even though the score was 29-19? Or specifically the W? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) Does it feel like Reyes is inching his way towards some offensive playing time ? He's worked his way from the bottom of the heap slowly, into Special Teams. And if the injury to RSJ keeps him off the field, it will be interesting to see if they sign another TE, and whether Reyes sees some snaps on Offense 11 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: You called it, even though the score was 29-19? Or specifically the W? It's notable that Washington's point total was off by only one point, and if they didn't choose to make the unusual decision to forgo attempting an XP, it would have been exact. And Tampa's total was off by only 5. So, with WAS being off by 1 point, and Tampa off by 5, for a total of 6, I'm guessing the 6 is much better than most predictions Edited November 14, 2021 by Malapropismic Depository Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Does it feel like Reyes is inching his way towards some offensive playing time ? Feels less like he is inching forward and more like the goalpost is approaching him at highway speed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey hodge Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Malapropismic Depository said: I called it. They balled it ! Sir, you win!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philibusters Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, kingdaddy said: Brady looked a little scared today...not himself, lots of quick checkdowns. I think Del Rio got in his head a little bit....that and Jonathon Allens early hit made him pretty average today. What can we do to Cam next week????? I think that is pretty much just Tom Brady at this point in his career. He is an elite game manager. He takes what the defense gives him. Tampa lost because the team around was meh, not because he had a bad day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I thought Gibson had some good runs, but the only reason the offense worked is because they kept on converting 3rd downs after the running game out them behind the sticks on first down. But we were converting 3rd downs. We only punted once. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Ok, But I’d also like to point out until the last drive Gibby was 11 carries for 15 yards, basically 1.5 yards per carry. He had a few good runs late in the game to make the overall numbers look Less awful. Some of this is on Scott Turner’s obsession with running for no yards on first down. I thought Gibson had some good runs, but the only reason the offense worked is because they kept on converting 3rd downs after the running game out them behind the sticks on first down. I was tempted to say the second half, but it was his overall approach this game versus the numbers. Sure, he had 4-5 unique powerful runs, but his energy seemed to be in a good place and had a clear plan of what he wanted to accomplish on this day. He was decisive and ran with conviction. Too many time (in my opinion) he never seemed to have a plan and was too concerned with making a big play which would impact his energy on the field. Subjectivity on my end, not to say if one wants to place more value on the stats they are wrong. Thought today was much less to do with stats. My guess is he feels just as good about this game as last year versus Dallas (the coaches as well). Edited November 15, 2021 by wit33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Skins Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Anyone have video of McLaurin's full catch at the end? Any highlights I've seen always cut off before they show him getting up and celebrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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