The Trump Riot Aftermath (Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes found guilty of seditious conspiracy. Proud Boys join the club)

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

I don’t think it’s such a strange condition when you have somebody who has been radicalized that they are not allowed to view the content that radicalized them in the first place.

[Llevron]

43 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

I'm not a legal expert this seems just wrong to me.  I don't think a judge should be able to put limits in place like that.  

 

I kinda feel where you are coming from, but this is him streaming content that motivated him to attack the goverment.....so I kinda feel where the judge is coming from too? Im not sure how I feel about it honestly. It certainly feels like the government encroaching on personal liberty. But it also feels like the CCC not allowing some episodes of Family guy to be shown because they use Mohammad's image ironically or something. (Thats a South Park reference, but im mostly serious in its application) 

 

[TheGreatBuzz]

25 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

 

Will you agree that these insurrectionists used the internet to connect and set up the Jan. 6th insurrection? Is so, that's reason enough to restrict their internet use.

 

That I don't know for sure or to what extent it happened.  I'll wait for the investigation to conclude.  But even if so, I could possibly see them limiting his active participation but banning passive (just watching) seems like a bridge too far.

 

4 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

I kinda feel where you are coming from, but this is him streaming content that motivated him to attack the goverment.....so I kinda feel where the judge is coming from too? Im not sure how I feel about it honestly. It certainly feels like the government encroaching on personal liberty. But it also feels like the CCC not allowing some episodes of Family guy to be shown because they use Mohammad's image ironically or something. (Thats a South Park reference, but im mostly serious in its application) 

 

 

This is probably about the same as I feel.  But the difference with me is that if I'm on the fence about something like this, I will almost always come down on the side of individual liberty/rights/whatever.  Now don't think I am THAT up in arms about it that I'm going to go protest or even write a letter or make a phone call.  I just think it is wrong.

[Cooked Crack]

 

 

[Cooked Crack]

 

 

 

[China]

Mo Brooks: ‘Illegal and horrible’ Jan. 6 records search may reveal ‘amusing’ emojis, GIFs

 

The reported request by the special House committee looking into the Jan. 6 riots at the U.S. Capitol for all of Rep. Mo Brooks’ phone and computer records over a 10-months period is “illegal and horrible,” and would only possibly reveal “amusing” emojis and GIFs sent by the congressman’s children, Brooks told AL.com Wednesday.

 

Earlier this week, the House select committee investigating the insurrection sent requests to 35 media companies, asking them to preserve phone and computer records for a number of individuals, including Brooks, from April 2020 through Jan. 31, 2021. Others targeted include former President Donald Trump, members of Trump’s family, and several of Brook’s Republican colleagues in Congress.

 

Click on the link for the full article

[NoCalMike]

It's real rich for the "if you've got nothing to hide" and "if you just stop resisting" crowd to decide to go on an all out tour de la resistance against being investigated. 

Edited September 3, 2021 by NoCalMike

[China]

Looks like both Mo and McCarthy are scared.  I hope they nail their balls to the wall.

[Jabbyrwock]

7 minutes ago, China said:

Looks like both Mo and McCarthy are scared.  I hope they nail their balls to the wall.

[Simmsy]

17 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

I'm not a legal expert this seems just wrong to me.  I don't think a judge should be able to put limits in place like that.  

I don't particularly like it either, I actually don't think the courts should be allowed to stop ANYONE from using the internet. However, imagine doing what this guy did and ALL you have to do to stay out of jail is not go online? I'm sure there are a thousands ways to still get online, but this guy was just too stupid. Lindell is just the icing on the cake.

[Spaceman Spiff]

JFC.

 

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/extremists-to-attend-sept-18-rally-at-us-capitol-new-fence-possible-ap/2790721/

 

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Far right extremist groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers are planning to attend a rally later this month at the U.S. Capitol that is designed to demand “justice” for the hundreds of people who have been charged in connection with January’s insurrection, according to three people familiar with intelligence gathered by federal officials.

As a result, U.S. Capitol Police have been discussing in recent weeks whether the large perimeter fence that was erected outside the Capitol after January’s riot will need to be put back up, the people said.

The officials have been discussing security plans that involve reconstructing the fence, as well as another plan that does not involve a fence, the people said. They were not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

The planned Sept. 18 rally at the Capitol comes as a jittery Washington has seen a series of troubling one-off incidents — including, most recently, a man who parked a pickup truck near the Library of Congress and said he had a bomb and detonator. Among the most concerning events: A series of unexploded pipe bombs placed around the U.S. Capitol ahead of the Jan. 6 insurrection remain unexplained and no suspect has been charged.

 

My fiance read in the WaPo this morning that Trump will be there.  I hope that's not accurate.

[Larry]

21 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:

lol. imagine going back to jail for streaming the cyber symposium.

 

 

[Larry]

10 hours ago, China said:

Mo Brooks: ‘Illegal and horrible’ Jan. 6 records search may reveal ‘amusing’ emojis, GIFs

 

The reported request by the special House committee looking into the Jan. 6 riots at the U.S. Capitol for all of Rep. Mo Brooks’ phone and computer records over a 10-months period is “illegal and horrible,” and would only possibly reveal “amusing” emojis and GIFs sent by the congressman’s children, Brooks told AL.com Wednesday.

 

1)  If they're actually requesting 10 month's worth of communication, then I agree, this is an overreach.  I really don't think anybody believes that the GODC spent 10 months planning Jan 6th.  Heck, 10 months before Jan 6, they didn't know Trump was going to lose.  

 

2)  I'm really enjoying the Party of investigating the investigation into the investigation of Hillary's emails announcing what great champions of privacy they are. 

[Ball Security]

35 minutes ago, Larry said:

 

1)  If they're actually requesting 10 month's worth of communication, then I agree, this is an overreach.  I really don't think anybody believes that the GODC spent 10 months planning Jan 6th.  Heck, 10 months before Jan 6, they didn't know Trump was going to lose.  

 

2)  I'm really enjoying the Party of investigating the investigation into the investigation of Hillary's emails announcing what great champions of privacy they are. 

November 2020-August 2021.  Seems reasonable to me that they want to understand the lengths of suppressing evidence, covering it up, intimidating witnesses, etc after the event.

[TheGreatBuzz]

13 minutes ago, Ball Security said:

November 2020-August 2021.  Seems reasonable to me that they want to understand the lengths of suppressing evidence, covering it up, intimidating witnesses, etc after the event.

The article above says Apr 2020-Jan 2021.

[Ball Security]

20 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

The article above says Apr 2020-Jan 2021.

Definitely didn’t read the article.  Seems to me that they should be subpoenaing communications post insurrection too.  As far as getting records pre-election, I believe it’d be naive to think that Trump and co weren’t coming up with a contingency plan once they knew they were in over their heads with the pandemic.

[Chachie]

1 hour ago, Larry said:

 

2)  I'm really enjoying the Party of investigating the investigation into the investigation of Hillary's emails announcing what great champions of privacy they are. 

 

 

😂

[China]

21 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

 

 

 

[Larry]

3 hours ago, Ball Security said:

Definitely didn’t read the article.  Seems to me that they should be subpoenaing communications post insurrection too.  As far as getting records pre-election, I believe it’d be naive to think that Trump and co weren’t coming up with a contingency plan once they knew they were in over their heads with the pandemic.

Oh, we know for a fact that at least Trump and Mitch, before the election, knew Trump was going to lose and their plan was to, after he lost, try to find a combination of "Trump won, if you throw out these batches of ballots". 
 

They both said so. 
 

Trump with "the key thing is the ballots. If you get rid of the ballots, then there won't be a transition."  
 

Skippy with "I'll recognize the election once all the legal ballots

 

have been counted". 
 

Heck, all of the Republican efforts to tell their voters to only vote in person, were part of that conspiracy. The reasons for doing that in the first place were:  

 

1). Create segregated piles of ballots in every elections office, with a "heavily D" pile and a "heavily R" pile. So the throwing out one pile will generate maximum partisanship. 
 

2). Try to create a situation where the election night announcements show Trump winning. And then millions of "more votes" showing up, days later, as the other piles get counted. 
 

Weeks, if not months, before the election, the entire GODP echo chamber was working in advance on their plan to try to throw out the election that they knew they were going to lose. 
 

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But, that's not what this commission is supposedly investigating. 

[skinsmarydu]

4 hours ago, Larry said:

 

1)  If they're actually requesting 10 month's worth of communication, then I agree, this is an overreach.  I really don't think anybody believes that the GODC spent 10 months planning Jan 6th.  Heck, 10 months before Jan 6, they didn't know Trump was going to lose.  

But Trump had already told everyone (and through media) that the only way he would lose the election would be by fraud.  

They acted upon his words, planning for months.  It ended with people dying (and at risk for) protecting those ballots that we all risked our lives and health to cast. 

[Darrell Green Fan]

On 9/2/2021 at 1:46 PM, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

I'm aware of that.  I've actually been out on bail myself.  I would probably agree with limiting him from active participation in events like the cyber symposium.  But limiting him from passive participation like simply watching it online seems too far to me.  It's not like what he was watching was itself illegal (like child porn, though if things like this symposium should be legal in the first place is another debate).  But, to me, the 1st amendment should apply to the viewer as well as the speaker.  

 

And don't give me that "he had a choice" nonsense.  If I make you having dailey sex with your mother a condition of your bail, that doesn't mean it is right just because you "had a choice."

See reply above.

 

 

What you are missing is he claimed before the judge in his plea for release that he had denounced those beliefs and no longer held them.  So he can't do that, then go right back to the exact behavior that lead to the riot.  

[Califan007 The Constipated]

 

 

[TheGreatBuzz]

3 hours ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

 

What you are missing is he claimed before the judge in his plea for release that he had denounced those beliefs and no longer held them.  So he can't do that, then go right back to the exact behavior that lead to the riot.  

 

He can’t watch something that he does not believe in?  That doesn’t make sense.  

[Darrell Green Fan]

11 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

He can’t watch something that he does not believe in?  That doesn’t make sense.  

 

The judge obviously doubted his claim, so she put this into place. I'm not sure why some are so outraged at this.  He obviously proved that the doubt was justified.  

[TheGreatBuzz]

21 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

 

The judge obviously doubted his claim, so she put this into place. I'm not sure why some are so outraged at this.  He obviously proved that the doubt was justified.  

Well I quantified my outrage above and also explained my “outrage” so I’m not sure what else to say to explain it further.