Redskins 2021 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, profusion said: Part of the point of going with a smaller stadium in the modern era is to make up for the smaller capacity by jacking up prices for such a "premium" experience, assuming that the poors will simply be watching on TV. Does anyone think the impresario behind sewage leaks, unsafe safety railings, defunct airline peanuts and expired beer is going to provide anything approaching a "premium" experience? He'll jack up the prices, for sure, but for the same level of awfulness all around. If there's a corner to be cut, it'll be cut with a chainsaw. He won't be able to fill the studium at 55000. He will also try to sell PSL which will not go over well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 "You'll pay through the nose for obstructed seating and LIKE IT!" - Dan Snyder (hypothetically) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, Redskins 2021 said: He won't be able to fill the studium at 55000. He will also try to sell PSL which will not go over well. Oh god, the PSL sales would be a massively entertaining disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNatsFan Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) Some details and ideas about Buffalo's new stadium plans, less seats and why ... https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/why-buffalo-bills-plan-to-reduce-seating-capacity-despite-building-a-bigger-stadium/article_98cf44be-68f2-11ec-a0d8-ef495b50e812.html Bills plan to reduce the capacity in their new stadium to between 60,000 to 62,000 seats and a general admission, standing-room-only party deck with space for up to another 5,000 fans. Shrinking capacity hasn’t gone over well with some fans. But sports marketing professionals, engineers and economists explained the reasoning behind the national trend in interviews with The News. “I think that’s smart,” said John Cimperman, a longtime NBA and NHL marketing executive who owns 42 North Brewing Co. in East Aurora. “I know there’s been some negative reaction to the reduced capacity, but it is a trend we’re seeing across venue development – in particular, the reduction of premium seating." Cimperman said a lot of venues include craft beer decks or other communal spaces as younger fans look for social interaction and popular party decks. “People are buying experiences,” Cimperman said. “They’re not buying places.” Fewer seats, larger stadium Reducing seating capacity does not mean the Bills want to build a smaller stadium. On the contrary, the team’s stadium proposal is significantly larger than the venue the Bills have called home for nearly 50 years. Highmark Stadium, which opened in 1973, is a little over 900,000 square feet, while the Bills plan to build a new stadium that would be about 1.5 million square feet, Raccuia said. “The stadium itself doesn’t have to be smaller to be a smaller seating capacity,” said Ryan Starkovich, the sports practice director at Henderson Engineers, which has worked on several new venues, including SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, Calif., which opened in 2020. Roger Noll, the professor of economics emeritus at Stanford University, said additional square footage rarely leads to increased seating capacity in modern venues. “Usually, a main motivating factor for a new stadium is to vastly increase the space devoted to concessions,” Noll said. “Some of them include hotels and video arcades and all kinds of stuff, besides just selling beer and hot dogs.” Raccuia said the Bills’ new stadium would use the additional square footage to incorporate food preparation and maintenance facilities – these are located outside of Highmark Stadium – and to create more temperature-controlled areas and significantly wider concourses. The Bills plan to keep a similar seating bowl in a new stadium, but with larger seats, more legroom and wider aisles, which would reduce capacity. Raccuia said the mix of ticket options in the new stadium would “change dramatically” from what the Bills offer today: 100-level seats, 300-level seats, 200-level clubs and suites. “In essence, we really only have four different products,” Raccuia said. “In a new stadium, we could have upwards of a dozen or more different products to fit every fan, from the standing-room-only party deck scenario to a 24- or a 36-person suite. That gives you flexibility, in a new stadium, to create those options that really give the fan anything that they could want to fit their price point.” And some of their timeline https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/31/buffalo-bills-propose-new-1point4-billion-nfl-stadium-by-2027.html The Bills’ proposal includes a timeline for construction with a completion date pegged for no later than 2027 based on how quickly a deal can be struck, a person with direct knowledge of the documents presented to state and county officials told the AP. The team’s current lease expires in July 2023 and would be extended until the new facility is opened, should the project be approved by the state of New York and Erie County. Edited June 2, 2022 by SkinsNatsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Less people and more space is the way they should be going. Nobody wants to be crammed in like sardines and miss a quarter and a half to hit the head and get a hot dog. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSkinz83 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 They need to wait to see what happens with the elections before giving up on RFK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said: They need to wait to see what happens with the elections before giving up on RFK. Your comment got me thinking about where they are on RFK demolition. The guy in charge of DC Events said in late March that the contract with the demo company hadn't been finalized and that demolition would take two years. What?? https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/552472/d-c-s-plans-to-demolish-rfk-stadium-have-stalled-complicating-bowsers-redevelopment-pitch/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said: They need to wait to see what happens with the elections before giving up on RFK. RFK is donezo. Snyder would want to own the land and the best he can do there is lease the land from the feds. DC is screwed because of out of town tools making decisions for property that should belong to the city. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Snyder will NEVER get the RFK property. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSkinz83 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Anyone know how much the RFK land costs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, FLSkinz83 said: Anyone know how much the RFK land costs? It's not a matter of money - I think it's more the matter that it's Federally owned land and it would require a vote in Congress or something like that to start the process of selling it to the City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Like most governments, DC is about the "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" while same is true for the whole DMV area, Snyder is already more in-tune with the powers that be in the NOVA area. He knows the amount and how hard the NOVA government likes to give it but not so much the DC government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSkinz83 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, bird_1972 said: It's not a matter of money - I think it's more the matter that it's Federally owned land and it would require a vote in Congress or something like that to start the process of selling it to the City. So what are they going to do with it if they don't sell it to the City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 51 minutes ago, FLSkinz83 said: So what are they going to do with it if they don't sell it to the City? https://frontofficesports.com/d-c-plans-to-upgrade-rfk-stadium-site-nfl-team-or-not/ Quote Regardless of where the Commanders end up, RFK Stadium is expected to be demolished. A proposal of $60 million to build a new recreation center has been submitted. Plans for the facility include an indoor track, pool, and space for gymnastics. If the budget is approved, construction of the complex could take up to five years. Owned by the federal government, RFK Stadium’s current lease runs through 2036 and requires the land to be used for sports and entertainment purposes, unless Congress relinquishes the property to the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_HOG Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Virginia looks less likely, thanks JDR. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 JDR is not the type of person I wanted associated with this team. Unfortunately, here we are. Probably another reason why this guy was out of job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 JDR will be a big hit in St. Louis, along with the rest of this fine organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, profusion said: JDR will be a big hit in St. Louis, along with the rest of this fine organization. JDR may become the most highly sought after linebackers coach in the USFL. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwards Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/1/2022 at 5:12 PM, BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen said: "You'll pay through the nose for obstructed seating and LIKE IT!" - Dan Snyder (hypothetically) Then he turns to the one fan remaining, features gleaming with the upmost sincerity: "Are you my pal?" 11 hours ago, profusion said: JDR will be a big hit in St. Louis, along with the rest of this fine organization. PLEASE make it so. We need the ultimate re-do here. I'd gladly wait for a few seasons for a new team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshadow008 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 RFK is officially dead as an option 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 What site is most alive at this point? FedEx's parking lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshadow008 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: What site is most alive at this point? FedEx's parking lot? Idk to be honest I still think he goes to VA even if they dont give him money because of the fact that MD just gave the ravens and orioles 1.2 billion but wont give him anything. I could see him going to va out of spite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: What site is most alive at this point? FedEx's parking lot? It feels like slam dunk he's forced to rebuild around Fedex. Unless he's willing to foot every dime himself in Virginia. Granted even fedex isn't giving him money but they are willing to build around the stadium and Dan already owns the land. Edited June 9, 2022 by Skinsinparadise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshadow008 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: It feels like slam dunk he's forced to rebuild around Fedex. Unless he's willing to foot every dime himself in Virginia. Granted even fedex isn't giving him money but they are willing to build around the stadium and Dan already owns the land. Yes but from what I understand Maryland wants to build things like parks, Sports fields and things like that around Fed Ex not a lot of retail etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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