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Has your team support wained due to ownership or can you see past it?  

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  1. 1. Will you attend a game and support the team while Dan Snyder is the owner of the team, regardless of success?

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JSSkinz

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6 minutes ago, method man said:

When he got fired by the Panthers the first time, wasn’t Hurney out of football?

He took the job on an interim basis after they fired Gettleman so I don't think he was ever meant to be the long term answer there, he's up there in age.

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https://www.si.com/nfl/washingtonfootball/news/hurney-homecoming-did-panthers-just-fire-washington-football-teams-next-gm

We can theorize that Hurney might not even insist on the GM title, but just wants to do the work alongside Rivera, who has full control of football operations in Washington - and who, we've heard, has consulted with Hurney from time to time over this year. 

Present WFT exec Kyle Smith's short- and long-term situation and future is unclear at the moment. But league sources tell us they believe he will get an offer to be an assistant general manager, if not run of the full show, somewhere this offseason. 

Meanwhile, Joe Schoen, the Bills assistant GM, seems more than ready to have the top front-office spot and is thought to be the most likely choice by Rivera because of their Carolina connection - and due to Rivera's respect and view of Buffalo lead executive Brandon Beane. 

This could take until after the NFL Draft in late April to fully come together. But amid a roller-coaster of changes, Ron Rivera is at the controls ... and some long-time helpers could be on the way to Washington.

 

 

 

while many names have yet to emerge officially, an interesting one was thrown into the mix over the weekend. Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free Press tweeted that he expects Buffalo Bills assistant general manager Joe Schoen to be in the mix for the Lions job, due to the fact that Detroit has seen what Buffalo has been doing on the field and understands their success.

 

Schoen could be in high demand this offseason, as he has had a front row seat to the Bills’ renovation over the last few seasons while helping his boss Brandon Beane into the team being one of the most consistent in the AFC lately. Schoen and the Bills group have been phenomenal talent evaluators in Buffalo, and the team is 10-3 this season and making a run to the top of the AFC.

Detroit needs to find the type of consistency the Bills have the last few years, so it makes sense that Schoen would be on their radar. Last offseason, Schoen was rumored to be in the mix for the Cleveland GM job, and could also have ties that could land him interviews in Washington given Ron Rivera’s presence within that organization.

Joe Schoen Biography

After starting as a ticket intern with the Carolina Panthers in 2000, Schoen began his rise up the organization by serving as a scout for the Panthers before jumping to the Miami Dolphins where he became a national scout and then the team’s assistant director of college scouting. After that, he earned the title of director of player personnel. Beane then convinced him to join the Bills in 2017 as the team’s assistant general manager, a role he’s held since.

A native of Elkhart, Indiana, Schoen attended Depauw University where he played football. Interestingly, Schoen nearly re-located to Michigan to work for Stryker Medical out of college as this profile explains, but elected to gamble with a lower paid job to stay in football scouting. That looks to be a good decision given his meteoric rise with the Bills.

Obviously, a move to Detroit wouldn’t be that far from Schoen’s roots if it happened. If Schoen were to get the job, it would be interesting to see if he’d advocate for the hiring of Brian Daboll, Buffalo’s successful and high rising offensive coordinator.

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Schoen as the top man with a 65 year old Hurney as his assistant works for me. I’m meh on Smith.

 

For whatever reason Rivera just isn’t comfortable with Kyle. So no matter how talented Kyle may be it will never work for him here if their personalities/egos don’t mesh. Unfortunately the best move for all concerned might involve Kyle leaving.

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If we lost Kyle Smith but replaced him with Joe Schoen, I'd be okay with that. The Bills have done a great job building that team from the ground up and I'm always good with the idea of getting a top lieutenant from a well run organization. I'd prefer to keep Smith, as I always prefer our own guys, but replacing talent with talent is fine.

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1 hour ago, ultravin said:

really don't understand why they would not want to keep kyle smith. i think he's done a helluva job here.  

 

 

Possibilities:

 

- He and Ron just don't "gel"...and Rivera feels there are others out there just as good at acquiring talent that he does gel with.

- Due diligence...no mention of Kyle because they already know all about him so only mentions of others they want to investigate to be thorough, because they may find someone better.

- Traditional GM duties getting split between Kyle and someone else, with the "someone else" handling the more administrative aspects that maybe Ron has been handling. Can't remember which ex-GM said this but they said something like 80% of a GM's workload has nothing whatsoever to do with talent evaluation.

- Adding a cover to adhere to the Rooney Rule...team hired Terry Bateman without doing a bunch of interviews first with others, especially candidates of color. That got them investigated by the NFL to see if they complied with the Rooney Rule before hiring Bateman. To avoid that with Kyle, might be showing that he wasn't just handed the GM position without interviewing others.

- It's all speculative hot air.

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2 hours ago, Califan007 said:

 

- Traditional GM duties getting split between Kyle and someone else, with the "someone else" handling the more administrative aspects that maybe Ron has been handling. Can't remember which ex-GM said this but they said something like 80% of a GM's workload has nothing whatsoever to do with talent evaluation


Yeah, I think that may be a major factor, and to be fair we all have no idea if Kyle Smith is at all competent at that 80% aspect off of the job. Fan opinion is largely based on the 20% that we seen the results of though roster additions, via the draft or free agency.

 

 

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The Washington Football Team paid a female former employee $1.6 million as part of a confidential settlement in 2009, according to a copy of the agreement reviewed by The Washington Post. The settlement was struck after the woman accused team owner Daniel Snyder of sexual misconduct, a person familiar with the matter said.

 

The alleged incident occurred on Snyder’s private plane on a flight returning from the Academy of Country Music Awards in Las Vegas, said the person, who was not authorized to discuss the matter and spoke on the condition of anonymity. In court records filed Monday as part of an ongoing feud among the team’s owners, Snyder’s business partners referenced the woman’s allegation, calling it “a serious accusation of sexual misconduct.”

The revelation of a seven-figure settlement involving Snyder comes as the NFL conducts an investigation into sexual harassment inside the organization he has owned since 1999.

 

...The female employee made “certain allegations” in April 2009, according to a copy of the agreement, and was later fired. The agreement, which was signed on July 22 of that year by an attorney on behalf of Snyder and two other team executives, did not describe the nature of the allegations. In the agreement, neither Snyder nor the team acknowledged any wrongdoing.

 

Though the woman had been terminated for cause, she and the team agreed that her personnel file would be changed to show that she voluntarily resigned. The team also provided the woman with a letter of recommendation, signed by Mitch Gershman, then the team’s chief operating officer, which described her as “well-respected by her colleagues here at The Washington Redskins and around the NFL” and said she “will be an asset to another organization.”

 

The former employee did not respond to requests for comment, and her husband declined to comment this summer. Her attorney, Brendan Sullivan, declined to comment on Sunday. The Post is not identifying the woman because she is an alleged victim of sexual misconduct. Gershman did not respond to a request for comment.

Following a July report by The Post in which 15 women said they were sexually harassed while working for the team, Snyder hired D.C. attorney Beth Wilkinson to investigate. A month later, another 25 women made similar claims in another Post report, which also described lewd videos produced by the team from outtakes of cheerleader calendar shoots in 2008 and 2010.

 

In a series of public statements, Snyder has denied knowledge of the existence of the lewd cheerleader videos and pledged to address problems in his team’s workplace culture.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/daniel-snyder-sexual-misconduct-settlement/2020/12/22/f81131d8-4339-11eb-a277-49a6d1f9dff1_story.html

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