Bacon Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, mistertim said: On the majority of days in the past couple of weeks we've been at around 1,000 deaths per day nationally. We are 22 days deep into June and 4 of them have had 1,000 or more reported deaths. The moving 7 day average for deaths hasn't been above 1,000 since June 3rd and is currently sitting at 619, the lowest average since March 31st. Yesterday brought in the lowest total since March 23rd and today's total was 14% lower than last Monday. Not saying there won't be a small jump in deaths with cases skyrocketing (though with the age of new patients dropping dramatically, the ratio will not be level with previous spikes), just clarifying your numbers. Edited June 23, 2020 by Bacon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Death is a lagging indicator, I am not confident it won't bounce back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Cause this is something you definitely want to keep quiet about! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, RedskinsFan44 said: Death is a lagging indicator, I am not confident it won't bounce back up. I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that it seems more younger people are getting it now. Possibly because they're the ones more likely to be out and about early in the relaxing of the shutdowns? On one hand that will likely, in the near term, mean less deaths. However, those younger people are also likely to pass it on to older people at home as well. I really hope we won't see a sharp upticks in deaths over the next few weeks but I wouldn't necessarily be surprised if we do. 😧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, mistertim said: I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that it seems more younger people are getting it now. Possibly because they're the ones more likely to be out and about early in the relaxing of the shutdowns? On one hand that will likely, in the near term, mean less deaths. However, those younger people are also likely to pass it on to older people at home as well. I really hope we won't see a sharp upticks in deaths over the next few weeks but I wouldn't necessarily be surprised if we do. 😧 On the radio when discussing the number of younger people with positive tests, they mentioned that tests are now more available to young people, so some of it could just be increased testing in the demographic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 See some spots in red states slowing down reopening, the closing back down we see in other countries coming next. Maybe this helps us get scared straight versus plowing full steam ahead into flu season. The states can do this without Trump, some folks up for re-election, too. Even if we get right after November, will Brazil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) The wild card in all of this: Trump forcing one or more vaccines through the FDA before the election in a desperate attempt to save his campaign and keep himself out of jail. https://www.market watch.com/story/heres-why-the-fda-may-approve-a-covid-19-vaccine-before-the-november-elections-according-to-jefferies-biotech-research-team-2020-06-19 Could work out. Could be a dangerous setback for vaccinations in general. Edited June 23, 2020 by Bacon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I won’t be taking any COVID vaccines any time soon. I’m no anti-vaxxer but I’m no dummy either. Probably greater risk to me if a rushed vaccine has harmful side effects than if I actually catch the virus. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) Only two labs are at trial phase 2/3 One in US: Faustman Lab at Massachusetts General Hospital - I can see Trump pushing this one through quicker after phase 3 is completed. No timeline is give for phase 3 yet. And one we all know one is in UK: The University of Oxford Also read an article and Prof. Matteo Bassetti, head of the infectious diseases clinic at Italy's Policlinico San Martino Hospital said, " COVID-19 is weakening, could die out without vaccine, specialist claims. It was like an aggressive tiger in March and April, but now it's like a wild cat." Even elderly patients – who a few months ago would have died – "are sitting up in bed, and breathing without help." Article: https://www.jpost.com/health-science/covid-19-is-weakening-could-die-out-without-vaccine-specialist-claims-632324 Sure that is optimistic and yes the virus is mutating and will be less effective plus it won't be able to spread itself with people practicing social distancing and wearing masks but it will take a long time. in a year or two it should be gone - my educated guess here. The good news is that the vaccine will still be effective on different mutated strains since it is slow mutating virus. China's strain is different from the strain in the US and other parts of the world. There are handful of different strains of the virus in the wild right now. Some strains might become even more dangerous than what it is already out there right now or could be less effective. Really depends on how the virus replicates and how much of the RNA is translated correctly. Coronavirus are less perfect than the smallpox virus for example. It is going to be long waiting game and see how this virus is going to shape up or ship out. I hope it ships out sooner than later. Edited June 23, 2020 by zskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallen5862 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/activists-halt-street-protests-in-south-carolina-as-some-demonstrators-become-infected/ar-BB15QEYx?ocid=spartanntp Activists halt street protests in South Carolina as some demonstrators become infected South Carolina racial justice activists said they would postpone future demonstrations or move them online after at least 13 people who took part in previous protests tested positive for the coronavirus. In a video posted Sunday on Facebook, organizer Lawrence Nathaniel said demonstrators who marched in Columbia, S.C., between May 30 and June 17 had tested positive. He said four organizers were confirmed infected, along with three photographers and six protesters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LadySkinsFan Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: I won’t be taking any COVID vaccines any time soon. I’m no anti-vaxxer but I’m no dummy either. Probably greater risk to me if a rushed vaccine has harmful side effects than if I actually catch the virus. I agree with you. For example, the swine flu vaccine killed more people than the flu itself. This fact has been suppressed from general information. Any rush to a vaccine should be viewed with suspicion. Trump is just ridiculous now. And desperate. Edited June 23, 2020 by LadySkinsFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl05 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, PCS said: I did some of my training at Texas Children's hospital. That place is amazing, and is incredibly busy when "normal." I can't imagine the current situation. If any children's hospital is up to it, though, they are. Edited June 23, 2020 by bcl05 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I swear,this could be where I live right now. And this is supposed to be satire. SIgh. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mistertim Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Right, because what we need right now in the middle of an ongoing pandemic that's already killed over 120,000 Americans is to shrink the CDC and put more political hacks in the lead of it to cover for Trump. That's like downsizing an already underfunded wildland fire department in the middle of the worst wildfire season in the last century. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data#case-fatality-rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 New U.S. COVID-19 cases surge 25% last week; Arizona, Florida and Texas set records The United States saw a 25% increase in new cases of COVID-19 in the week ended June 21 compared to the previous seven days, with Arizona, Florida and Texas experiencing record surges in new infections, a Reuters analysis found. Twenty-five U.S. states reported more new cases last week than the previous week, including 10 states that saw weekly new infections rise more than 50%, and 12 states that posted new records, according to the analysis of data from The COVID Tracking Project, a volunteer-run effort to track the outbreak. Texas reported one of the largest rises in new cases at 24,000 for the week ended June 21, an increase of 84% from the previous week. The number of COVID-19 tests that came back positive in the state rose to 10%, from 7%. New cases in Florida rose 87% last week to almost 22,000, with the state’s positive test rate nearly doubling to 11%. Arizona reported 17,000 new cases, a 90% increase, with 20% of tests coming back positive, according to the analysis. GRAPHIC - Where Coronavirus is on the rise in the US Click on the link for the full article 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 hours ago, visionary said: I'll dispense with the niceties and just say...JFC, our President is the dumbest mother****er alive. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 It's worse than I thought it would be and I was pretty damn pessimistic. Hopefully some treatments will be around by fall that can keep people who get the virus from getting really sick/having to be put on ventilators. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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