Koolblue13 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Berggy9598 said: In 5 years Gruden came nowhere near even a decent DC. Rivera hasn't been on the job 24 hours. I think he's going to be quite expensive. Not someone you hear a lot about and maybe doesn't make too many flash plays, but is just tough get open against on a consistent basis Weve got an assload of cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 36 minutes ago, panahoo said: I assume you mean Reuben? I made a bad joke, but yes. It will be interesting to see what we do in FA. Really sucks that we have to wait, but I’m excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, Berggy9598 said: In 5 years Gruden came nowhere near even a decent DC. Rivera hasn't been on the job 24 hours. I think he's going to be quite expensive. Not someone you hear a lot about and maybe doesn't make too many flash plays, but is just tough get open against on a consistent basis Yeah any #1 corner types would be expensive in FA. My preference is Bryon Jones. With all the cap space they are going to have, I'd try to get a CB, FS, and TE. FS and TE typically doesn't require big money. CB does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berggy9598 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said: Weve got an assload of cap space. He'd be near or at the top of my shopping list. If we shell out on a big contract it should be someone who could put the defense over the top, and at least on paper he would fit the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandB11 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said: I made a bad joke, but yes. It will be interesting to see what we do in FA. Really sucks that we have to wait, but I’m excited. Ahh. Missed that completely. I am super excited about the potential of this roster with the new coaches in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveWarrior Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 If it's true about Del Rio, I'm really excited. I've been wishing for a defensive minded coach for years now, and it looks we'll have two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I really hope the "Strict 2 gap 4-3" thing isn't necessarily true. Not just because it's basically conservative bland defense, which I'm so damn sick of...but because we literally have the opposite of the personnel to run it for the most part. They CAN do it (as evidenced by Manusky) but it's not what they're best at. Allen, Ioan, and Payne are all best as shade/1 gap penetrating guys. I'd hate to continue to see them be misused. I was also hoping to finally see a well designed attacking defense that utilized the full potential of all of our young talent. If the 2 gap thing is true then we won't be seeing that. Sadface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphs56 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Hm so a switch to the 4-3 would be rather interesting from a rotation perspective. I'm going to assume Kerrigan is a cap casualty and the Skins draft Young. Sweat and Young are your ends. Then you have Allen-Payne-Ioannidis-Settle for 2 spots, maybe Allen rotates as an end as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I’m against spending big in free agency thinking we are only a couple big pieces away from greatness. This is going to take time. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Great write up about the scheme, well done OP. I think we just need to sit and wait. Rivera himself has been pretty hybrid in schemes. Just plays what works best for his squad. So I don't just expect to run what Del Rio ran the most. If we go 4-3 the Dline rotation is something interesting. I would then try to run it more like the 4-3 hybrid version the Seahawks use(d). With the LEO and a big strong DE. It's a waste of talent if Payne Ion and Allen don't are on the field together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTR559 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: I presume this dude might be a FA target Idk if we should trust another number 24 from Carolina. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 There’s a lot of potential with this front if they are used correctly. I’m very intrigued by how they will use everyone, and not just our big 3 dlinemen and Young (if we draft him)), but Anderson, Settle and Sweat as well. I’m not writing Kerrigan off either yet. Lot of talent on this front. Not sure what linebackers will play where - it’s not a great group, but it’s a pretty diverse group - but they also have Collins to play around with. Hoping to see a lot of growth from Moreland and Moreau, because the secondary has the potential to be a mess. Spending on a FA corner could help of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 So nobody put this one up here yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Both Rivera and Del Rio have used both 3-4 and 4-3 fronts. And both have used both 1 gap and 2 gap. As far as I know Del Rio has used mainly 1 gap. Mark Bullock did a write up on Del Rios defenses and confirmed he has been mainly a 1 gap guy. i think one of the major characteristics of both Rivera and Del Rio is they are scheme agnostic - they fit a scheme to what they have in personnel instead of trying to cram players into ‘their system’. Given the strength of our defense is the dline as opposed to the linebackers I will be stunned if we don’t use more of a 1 gap scheme than 2 gap. But I’d expect to see both. Del Rio has also used hybrid S/LB roles. Expect to see a lot more of Landon Collins in that role and a lot less of him playing post safety ... Both Rivera and Del Rio don’t blitz much and keep the back end simple. Rivera is more of a zone guy and Del Rio man so that will need to be sorted. But both ask their front 4 to get pressure with some linebacker pressure as well and the back 4/5 cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 James Bradbury, Tre Boston, Austin Hooper/Hunter Henry in FA. Bring back Trent (extension?) and Scherff. frees up the draft substantially. Take Young and don’t think twice. Then TE/WR/LB/CB to round out the middle rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetThePointsSoar Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Not to be the grumpy old man, but can we have the FA /draft conversations in another thread? I'm guessing I'm not the only one checking this thread constantly to find out IF Del Rio is even going to become our DC. At this point, it's still rumors only and nothing has been confirmed as of yet. Ha never mind. Confirmed. 😂😂. Now carry on and I can celebrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panninho Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 It's official now. Awesome hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, Panninho said: It's official now. Awesome hire. Great news. I look forward to who else Coach Rivera brings on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I don't think either Rivera or Del Rio are wed to a specific scheme. Pretty sure when in Oakland the Raiders ran a 3-4 under Del Rio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 What a great addition, things are shaping up nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer_FFX Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Beautiful. Going from chumps like Barry and Manusky to Del Rio. Hail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKskins Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 This is an unbelievable hire. I was excited about Del Rio but wasn't sure we'd get him. Huge deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 hours ago, HTTR559 said: Idk if we should trust another number 24 from Carolina. Lol Did you not notice tk's thread at the top of the forum?..reminding folks of the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I don't think either Rivera or Del Rio are wed to a specific scheme. Pretty sure when in Oakland the Raiders ran a 3-4 under Del Rio. They'll design a scheme that best suits the players they have on board come training camp. This isn't Manusky, who did doofus things, like constantly having a pass rusher like Sweat out in coverage. 🤨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKskins Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 28 minutes ago, Panninho said: It's official now. Awesome hire. The best bit about this tweet is the comments below. Other teams fans already starting to put some Respeck on our name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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