IrepDC Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Today's game proved why placing so much blame on Haskins last week was a weak loser move. How do you claim a player is holding the offense back and then have the worst offensive game in 50 years? This is exactly why I said Rivera should have been telling the TEAM to focus on their jobs instead of throwing Haskins under the bus. The last thing you give a bad football team is a scapegoat. We need all our players to look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, skinbuck said: The perception is that Ron seems to be sharing premature conclusions without the benefit of film reviewing, and then having to explain his flip-flopping merely days later. so take some time, look at things carefully and give us one voice. So we can continue to trust in your judgement That's a perception, not necessarily the reality. If Ron thinks Kyle is still the best option to win because he knows the offense and if Kyle has been cleared, I don't see the big deal. And even if he wanted to change a few days later, so what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said: Haskins was drafted to be the leader and then was made captain. Obviously Burrow has more years experience but quite simply he shouldn’t have been picked if we thought he was this raw. He definitely shouldn't have been drafted by this franchise. That's true. We would have ruined Mahomes and Watson. We would ruin Lawrence. Haskins never stood a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOATFrerotte Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Dallas defense is so bad. Conference still up for grabs. Who is Rivera choosing for qb next week? Has he already said Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Regardless of which stories are true, kicking a starting QB down to third string is almost always a prelude to trading or cutting them. You're literally saying that you don't want them in uniform on Sunday. Barring a miracle change of opinion, Haskins will be traded before next season. The timing may depend on the offers they get and how much Rivera wants to evaluate Montez this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, httr2020dynasty said: Dallas defense is so bad. Conference still up for grabs I hope we are not thinking short term like this. We need to develop a QB and try to get them comfortable in this offense. Maybe its Haskins or Allen, but if not maybe we can at least trade them for something. I'd bet that after that Baltimore game with the statline (minus the drama) we could have had more trade partners before coach tried to embarrass him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougs Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, httr2020dynasty said: Dallas defense is so bad. Conference still up for grabs. Who is Rivera choosing for qb next week? Has he already said Smith? During Rivera press conference he said it would be Allen if he was clear, with Alex being his backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, Spaceman Spiff said: Numbers don't always paint a full story. Haskins missed some easy passes. No ****. Where did I say he didn't? Where did I say he did good? I said it really doesn't matter what his numbers are because even if they were amazing he was not benched for performance as much as for disciplinary reasons. BTW: I said when he got benched and people were claiming he had excuses - I said he missed wide open passes to the flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, cougs said: During Rivera press conference he said it would be Allen if he was clear, with Alex being his backup. Odd. If he was sticking with Allen all along then why not let him come back in the game unless he was worried about concussion issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOATFrerotte Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, cougs said: During Rivera press conference he said it would be Allen if he was clear, with Alex being his backup. Oh nice, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I think it is clear that the starter needs to be Haskins or Allen. I love Smith but I just don't trust his arm or comfort in the pocket. He also has no mobility at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, goskins10 said: No ****. Where did I say he didn't? Where did I say he did good? I said it really doesn't matter what his numbers are because even if they were amazing he was not benched for performance as much as for disciplinary reasons. BTW: I said when he got benched and people were claiming he had excuses - I said he missed wide open passes to the flat. No ****...I was agreeing with you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougs Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, PartyPosse said: Odd. If he was sticking with Allen all along then why not let him come back in the game unless he was worried about concussion issues. Rivera said it was an arm issue and he didn’t want Allen to get hurt worse than he already was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, profusion said: Regardless of which stories are true, kicking a starting QB down to third string is almost always a prelude to trading or cutting them. You're literally saying that you don't want them in uniform on Sunday. Barring a miracle change of opinion, Haskins will be traded before next season. The timing may depend on the offers they get and how much Rivera wants to evaluate Montez this season. I just think of QBs like Goff and Bradford, Smith and other high guys who were benched early in their careers. Hopefully Haskins can recover from this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, IrepDC said: Today's game proved why placing so much blame on Haskins last week was a weak loser move. How do you claim a player is holding the offense back and then have the worst offensive game in 50 years? This is exactly why I said Rivera should have been telling the TEAM to focus on their jobs instead of throwing Haskins under the bus. The last thing you give a bad football team is a scapegoat. We need all our players to look in the mirror. Gotta admit, I did not like the "I see how frustrated the players get, fans don't see that" response that Rivera gave about Haskins' game performances. Having an offensive debacle like today just makes that comment ring hollow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOATFrerotte Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Haskins would have been slightly better than Smith but let’s be honest, he’s the worst qb in the nfl and would have been eaten alive by this d line in the rain. It was a good game for him because the offense sucked but it doesn’t mean he’s a good qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Just now, Spaceman Spiff said: No ****...I was agreeing with you... I quick "adding to that" would have helped. But fair enough. Heat of the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, IrepDC said: Today's game proved why placing so much blame on Haskins last week was a weak loser move. How do you claim a player is holding the offense back and then have the worst offensive game in 50 years? This is exactly why I said Rivera should have been telling the TEAM to focus on their jobs instead of throwing Haskins under the bus. The last thing you give a bad football team is a scapegoat. We need all our players to look in the mirror. Today’s performance for me does not validate Haskins. We have a bad football team and today they lost to a vastly superior one. The loss today doesn’t mean they made the wrong decision. Did anybody honestly expect a win today? Allen looked decent before he was hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Right, but you just advocated for Kyle to start next week....and that's what Rivera said was going to happen. I'm confused. You're just unhappy with how he delivered the message? I didn’t say I was unhappy, did I? I said I don’t understand why he would share that right after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, PartyPosse said: Odd. If he was sticking with Allen all along then why not let him come back in the game unless he was worried about concussion issues. I think it was pretty reasonable for him to sit Allen for the rest of the game after a shot like that, even if he cleared the concussion protocol. I'm no concussion expert but I can't imagine that he wouldn't be more susceptible to a concussion after taking a shot like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Thinking Skins said: I just think of QBs like Goff and Bradford, Smith and other high guys who were benched early in their careers. Hopefully Haskins can recover from this I don't have a photographic memory for this stuff, but I don't recall any of those guys going down to third string. That's a big demotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PartyPosse Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Califan007 said: Gotta admit, I did not like the "I see how frustrated the players get, fans don't see that" response that Rivera gave about Haskins' game performances. Having an offensive debacle like today just makes that comment ring hollow. I loathe when everyone says they’re frustrated. With who! Because they’re the ones playing poorly so who exactly are they frustrated with because I didn’t see an inspired team out there. Same with the OL. I get they don’t have talent but you got a guy coming in that just fought his way back for two years and that’s how you elevate your play? By almost getting him killed again? It just shows that what we saw today was the absolute best effort we were gonna get from those guys. It’ll never be better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Painkiller said: Today’s performance for me does not validate Haskins. We have a bad football team and today they lost to a vastly superior one. The loss today doesn’t mean they made the wrong decision. Did anybody honestly expect a win today? Allen looked decent before he was hit. I think IrepDC's post was more about Rivera's words than his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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