mistertim Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I'm pretty surprised that Weisselberg isn't cooperating. He could be looking at many years of prison time. He's either ludicrously loyal to the Trumps, or the Trumps have some serious dirt on him that they could unleash. I'm guessing the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Trump won't ever see jail time. This is the real world and the endings aren't always happy. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmirOfShmo Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 32 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Trump won't ever see jail time. This is the real world and the endings aren't always happy. Financial ruin of the entire clan would be good with me 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) Jail time for every one of his enablers would be a good consolation prize, too. But probably not practical, either. I mean, right wing media has constitutional protections, for example. Edited June 28, 2021 by Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, EmirOfShmo said: Financial ruin of the entire clan would be good with me What makes you think that'd happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Nothing to see here. Trump and probably his family; will never be convicted of anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmirOfShmo Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: What makes you think that'd happen? Lawyer fees, fines forcing them to sell profitable businesses, forbidding them from doing business in NY...🤷♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, EmirOfShmo said: Lawyer fees, fines forcing them to sell profitable businesses, forbidding them from doing business in NY...🤷♂️ Man, even those guys from the 80s like Boesky ended up with a lot of money and living well. Trump will come out fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skintime Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 This is disconcerting. Hopeful like all trump connected things it's BS. Betsy Woodruff Swan Mon, June 28, 2021, 10:45 AM Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance has indicated he does not currently plan to charge the Trump Organization with crimes related to allegations of "hush money" payments and real estate value manipulations, according to a personal lawyer for Donald Trump. Ronald Fischetti, a New York attorney who represents the former president, said on Monday that in a meeting last week, he asked Vance’s team for details on charges they were considering. According to Fischetti, members of Vance’s team said they were considering bringing charges against the Trump Organization and its individual employees related to alleged failures to pay taxes on corporate benefits and perks. It has been widely reported that those perks included cars and apartments and appear to only involve a small number of executives. “We asked, ‘Is there anything else?’” Fischetti told POLITICO. “They said, ‘No.’” More here https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-lawyer-manhattan-da-wont-144517198.html 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 43 minutes ago, Skintime said: This is disconcerting. Hopeful like all trump connected things it's BS. Betsy Woodruff Swan Mon, June 28, 2021, 10:45 AM Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance has indicated he does not currently plan to charge the Trump Organization with crimes related to allegations of "hush money" payments and real estate value manipulations, according to a personal lawyer for Donald Trump. Ronald Fischetti, a New York attorney who represents the former president, said on Monday that in a meeting last week, he asked Vance’s team for details on charges they were considering. According to Fischetti, members of Vance’s team said they were considering bringing charges against the Trump Organization and its individual employees related to alleged failures to pay taxes on corporate benefits and perks. It has been widely reported that those perks included cars and apartments and appear to only involve a small number of executives. “We asked, ‘Is there anything else?’” Fischetti told POLITICO. “They said, ‘No.’” More here https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-lawyer-manhattan-da-wont-144517198.html Or everything is going to come directly from James’ office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Skintime said: This is disconcerting. Hopeful like all trump connected things it's BS. Betsy Woodruff Swan Mon, June 28, 2021, 10:45 AM Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance has indicated he does not currently plan to charge the Trump Organization with crimes related to allegations of "hush money" payments and real estate value manipulations, according to a personal lawyer for Donald Trump. Ronald Fischetti, a New York attorney who represents the former president, said on Monday that in a meeting last week, he asked Vance’s team for details on charges they were considering. According to Fischetti, members of Vance’s team said they were considering bringing charges against the Trump Organization and its individual employees related to alleged failures to pay taxes on corporate benefits and perks. It has been widely reported that those perks included cars and apartments and appear to only involve a small number of executives. “We asked, ‘Is there anything else?’” Fischetti told POLITICO. “They said, ‘No.’” More here https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-lawyer-manhattan-da-wont-144517198.html Unless Vance and his office can flip some employees. Or not yet. I'd lie about other charges that may be forthcoming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Gee. What a surprise. I hold hope in that another Teflon Don did finally die in prison, but we will see ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Anyone that thinks a single member of that family will spend a minute at trial or in a jail hasn’t been paying attention 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Trump Org lawyers make last pitch against prosecution Lawyers for the Trump Organization met again Monday with prosecutors in the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office in a last bid to forestall a potential indictment stemming from a long-running investigation into the former president’s company. Trump Organization lawyer Ron Fischetti told The Associated Press the meeting came as a grand jury nears a vote on an indictment this week following a more than two-year investigation into Trump’s business affairs. He said prosecutors have told him Trump himself will not be charged at this time — “at least not with what’s coming down this week” — but added the investigation is continuing. “There is no indictment coming down this week against the former president,” Fischetti said in a telephone interview Monday. “I can’t say he’s out of the woods yet completely.” The Manhattan district attorney’s office declined to comment. Click on the link for the full article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) I'm actually amazed at the non-insane candor that Trump's lawyer displayed there. He just gave information. I'm used to anyone associated with or working for Trump screaming "THIS IS A WITCH HUNT! THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS! THIS IS THE DEEP STATE!" Edited June 29, 2021 by mistertim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 hours ago, mistertim said: I'm actually amazed at the non-insane candor that Trump's lawyer displayed there. He just gave information. I'm used to anyone associated with or working for Trump screaming "THIS IS A WITCH HUNT! THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS! THIS IS THE DEEP STATE!" Well, the lawyer didn't really need to. Trump did that himself. From the article: Quote The former Republican president, however, issued a blistering statement in which he derided District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr.’s office as “rude, nasty, and totally biased in the way they are treating lawyers, representatives, and some of the wonderful long-term employees and people within the Trump Organization.” “After hundreds of subpoenas, over 3 million pages of documents, 4 years of searching, dozens and dozens of interviews, and millions of dollars of taxpayer funds wasted, they continue to be ‘in search of a crime,’” Trump alleged, calling the investigation a “continuation of the greatest Witch Hunt of all time.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Maybe he'll go bankrupt again: An Indictment Will Be ‘Death Blow’ For Trump Hotels, Resorts And Golf Clubs, Say Former Federal Prosecutors With Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance expected to indict the Trump Organization for financial malfeasance, possibly as soon as this week, former federal prosecutors have taken to the cable airwaves and social media to predict the downfall of the former president’s family business. Yesterday was the deadline for Trump’s lawyers to present evidence that could help his organization avoid criminal charges. “I can’t underscore enough how devastating an indictment would be to the Trump Org,” tweeted Daniel Goldman, a former assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York who prosecuted mafia families and insider traders. “Every lender would call their loans and no way Trump Org can pay them all, likely leading to bankruptcy.” “That would be almost a death blow to the Trump Organization,” Mr. Goldman told MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace. “No bank will ever do business with an indicted company.” A spokesperson for the Trump Organization did not respond to a request for comment. Click on the link for more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I thought most banks already shy away from doing business with Trump. I am not sure how banks not lending him money really changes his business practices. I thought there was only one with whom he was still doing business (not a U.S. bank to boot). I mean he has 5-7 bankruptcies (can't remember). Would you lend money to him now, whether his business is charged or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 And so, it begins… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, gbear said: I thought most banks already shy away from doing business with Trump. I am not sure how banks not lending him money really changes his business practices. I thought there was only one with whom he was still doing business (not a U.S. bank to boot). I mean he has 5-7 bankruptcies (can't remember). Would you lend money to him now, whether his business is charged or not? It’s Deutsche Bank, and according to this, they no longer will work with him. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/12/investing/deutsche-bank-trump/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 I expect Allen W. to be dead soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 hour ago, TryTheBeal! said: And so, it begins… Are we going to be lucky enough to see anyone in handcuffs tomorrow? *I’m betting no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Are we going to be lucky enough to see anyone in handcuffs tomorrow? *I’m betting no. Your bedroom life must be boring 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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