StillUnknown Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Springfield said: If Bernie pounded that caucus, would it really be a big deal? Frankly, I hope that Bernie gets the nomination and mother****s all these republicans who are pulling for him now because they think he’s some sort of socialist loon who could never bear Trump. I've pointed out the Trythebeal effect to my Trumpster colleague who is considering voting for Sanders in the Arizona primary. BTW voting for revenge is what what brought you Trump and you want to repeat it with Sanders? 7 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: If they were smart they'd try to salvage some of this by releasing the results a few minutes before the State of the Union in order to steal some of the Presidents Thunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, nonniey said: I've pointed out the Trythebeal effect to my Trumpster colleague who is considering voting for Sanders in the Arizona primary. BTW voting for revenge is what what brought you Trump and you want to repeat it with Sanders? 1. What’s the Trythebeal effect? 2. I can stand his policies, so yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Springfield said: 1. What’s the Trythebeal effect? 2. I can stand his policies, so yeah? Trythebeal voted for Trump in the 2016 Virginia primaries thinking that would help Clinton. Be careful what you wish for in other words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, nonniey said: Trythebeal voted for Trump in the 2016 Virginia primaries thinking that would help Clinton. Be careful what you wish for in other words. Fair enough. That said. I am pro MFA, pro $15 min wage, pro collecting tax on large corps. Just about the only policy I disagree with, off the top of my head, is free college. I like others better, but I don’t really dislike Bernie at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Hahaha how’d you like to work at the company that setup this voting app? 😂 gonna be a miserable few days and probably a bad year in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, tshile said: Hahaha how’d you like to work at the company that setup this voting app? 😂 gonna be a miserable few days and probably a bad year in general. Might ad well get on Indeed and Dice now before you have to take the job off the resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Messing up the data is a pretty big **** up. Releasing only half of it is just dumb. Who does that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 538 seems to think Biden is the biggest benefactor from the Iowa fiasco. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/iowa-might-have-screwed-up-the-whole-nomination-process/ ....In trying to build a forecast model of the Democratic primaries, we literally had to think about the entire process from start (Iowa) to finish (the Virgin Islands on June 6). Actually, we had to do more than that. Since the nomination process is sequential — states vote one at a time rather than all at once — we had to determine, empirically, how much the results of one state can affect the rest. The answer in the case of Iowa is that it matters a lot. Despite its demographic non-representativeness, and the quirks of the caucuses process, the amount of media coverage the state gets makes it far more valuable a prize than you’d assume from the fact that it only accounts for 41 of the Democrats’ 3,979 pledged delegates. More specifically, we estimate — based on testing how much the results in various states have historically changed the candidates’ position in national polls — that Iowa was the second most-important date on the calendar this year, trailing only Super Tuesday. It was worth the equivalent of almost 800 delegates, about 20 times its actual number...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 33 minutes ago, Llevron said: Messing up the data is a pretty big **** up. Releasing only half of it is just dumb. Who does that help? The person that the half of the data supports. Cause that'll be the takeaway - that person won Iowa Releasing the rest of the data a few days later, and having the total data tell a different story, wont' matter. First headline usually wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, tshile said: The person that the half of the data supports. Cause that'll be the takeaway - that person won Iowa Releasing the rest of the data a few days later, and having the total data tell a different story, wont' matter. First headline usually wins. This. Iowa is entirely about the momentum it generates, which is solely due to it being first. The number of delegates, 41, is really small potatoes. So if you are the first one to be declared a winner, even if it's only half the results, you still win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Yeah. Which is exactly why they shouldn't release half the result. Can you imagine the outcry if half result shows Buttigieg as the winner and full result shows Sanders won? Oh boy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 the funny (or not) part of all of this is apparently it's really an issue with iowa but it doesn't matter, it makes the entire DNC look bad (even if they legitimately had nothing to do with it) You even got Bloomberg taking shots at the field/DNC over it. It is one of the fascinating things (for me) about the primary - everyone's willing to crap all over the team they're fighting to represent in just a few months... I'm not positive, but I feel like sometimes that hurts and sometimes it doesn't. Funny either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, bearrock said: Yeah. Which is exactly why they shouldn't release half the result. Can you imagine the outcry if half result shows Buttigieg as the winner and full result shows Sanders won? Oh boy.... Which was my point but of course I post it in the most nonsensical way possible. 😑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, tshile said: Hahaha how’d you like to work at the company that setup this voting app? 😂 gonna be a miserable few days and probably a bad year in general. The company behind the murky results and shady explanations is, fittingly, named Shadow. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 While we're planning for contingencies can someone get Joe Kennedy III a Senate seat so he can run when we need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Is this different from the 60% they released overnight? Or maybe that was 40%. Lol. It’s hard to keep track of all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I went to the Shadow Inc site and this is in their about us page explaining their name. Quote Why Shadow? When a light is shining, Shadows are a constant companion. We see ourselves as building a long-term, side-by-side “Shadow” of tech infrastructure to the Democratic Party and the progressive community at large. https://shadowinc.io/about/ They are the shadows in the light? Reads like a not so subtle subsidiary of Hydra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 57 minutes ago, Destino said: I went to the Shadow Inc site and this is in their about us page explaining their name. https://shadowinc.io/about/ They are the shadows in the light? Reads like a not so subtle subsidiary of Hydra. Slogan: "We're the mere shadow of a competent company." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Can we just say "Sorry Iowa, you ****ed it up, try again in 4 more years" and not even worry about it? Just move on. Seems simpler this way. Exactly like this, where #31 is Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, bearrock said: Yeah. Which is exactly why they shouldn't release half the result. Can you imagine the outcry if half result shows Buttigieg as the winner and full result shows Sanders won? Oh boy.... Eh, they release partial counts all the time. Did ya'll hear about the voter wanting to change her vote after belatedly learning he had a husband? Do these people live under a rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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