88Comrade2000 Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 53 minutes ago, Larry said: I think you're making an assumption, there. Hey, who wouldn't take free money but what if some people actually vote for Trump because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Here’s the swerve: Trump giving money to black people to vote for him except they can’t because republicans have spent decades ensuring that they can’t vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Forehead Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Llevron said: He was actually going with the "Dead and homeless people in SF always seem to vote D" angle. Which made me regret even reaching out. But then HR gets all huffy when you ask them what it is like to live life as a God damned moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, Springfield said: Here’s the swerve: Trump giving money to black people to vote for him except they can’t because republicans have spent decades ensuring that they can’t vote. And if they can, who knows who they will vote for once the curtain is closed? Give me $30 and I'll SAY to you I'm voting for Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Llevron said: He was actually going with the "Dead and homeless people in SF always seem to vote D" angle. Which made me regret even reaching out. There are some "conservatives" you can have constructive conversations about this and some you cant. Sometimes it is stupid, sometimes it's a feedback loop of willful ignorance and lack of empathy. That's not "conservative", that's asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dan T. Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Mayor Pete's momentum continues. Let's see how he builds on it. He's got an uphill battle ahead of him. If it's a matter of it being a test of his character, he will win that battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dan T. said: Mayor Pete's momentum continues. Let's see how he builds on it. He's got an uphill battle ahead of him. If it's a matter of it being a test of his character, he will win that battle. Wait until they all find out that he’s gay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Springfield said: Wait until they all find out that he’s gay Well, CP time is a thing. (its a joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dan T. said: Mayor Pete's momentum continues. Let's see how he builds on it. He's got an uphill battle ahead of him. If it's a matter of it being a test of his character, he will win that battle. Majority of his momentum is coming from results showing him still in the lead, not that hes won. If we get to the end and hes in third place behind Bernie and Warren, then what? This is why I hate that they are doing this, and trying not to guess on intent here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Majority of his momentum is coming from results showing him still in the lead, not that hes won. If we get to the end and hes in third place behind Bernie and Warren, then what? This is why I hate that they are doing this, and trying not to guess on intent here. The numbers went from 62% to 71% reporting, and things didn't change much. Buttegeig's lead stayed about the same. Does anyone think the outcome is going to flip with the last 29% reporting? And that's an honest question... I haven't heard anyone suggesting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Has anyone read why this is still taking so long? 37 minutes ago, Springfield said: Wait until they all find out that he’s gay While it’s been mentioned that he’s gay it really hasn’t received as much press as I’d have expected. Compare it to the talk of female and minority candidates on stage, for example. It’s strange because I think in many ways a gay man is far more unlikely in the US than either a woman (earned the democratic nomination last election) or a person of color (two term President). Maybe his campaign doesn’t want to it to be a major theme of his campaign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Dan T. said: The numbers went from 62% to 71% reporting, and things didn't change much. Buttegeig's lead stayed about the same. Does anyone think the outcome is going to flip with the last 29% reporting? And that's an honest question... I haven't heard anyone suggesting that. And it's a fair question and why they shoulsnt be doing this. I dont know how this is factored by which areas have finished reporting in relation to where Bernie is expecting to be popular vs Pete or anyone else. I turned CNN off because they were explaining how Pete was "winning" in places Bernie won in 2016 even though they werent finished counting yet. Pete is taking victory laps even though Bernie is winning the popular vote, too many narratives coming from incomplete information, and what's being g lost in all of this is Bidens seeming irrelevancy after being VP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Destino said: Has anyone read why this is still taking so long? Waiting for investigation. I'm not buying the app broken in regards to folks sending results as the primary culprit, why in the hell would they let folks calling in official results over the phone? That who process is jacked, I'll wait for specific when they are more honest about them and stop trying throw an app they choose to use under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 At the moment it's looking like Buttigieg was the most screwed over by this mess. Still some more to come though, so we'll see. This certainly hurt both his and Bernie's ability to gain momentum from doing well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Springfield said: Wait until they all find out that he’s gay gawd-fearin' goper americans won't disgrace their holy bible by putting someone in the white house who belongs in hell or maybe they treat pete as a sinner the way they treat don as a sinner love him long long time, all hands on and stuff proper appendages, proper orifices, pregnant virgins, and controlling all vaginas...methinks the xtian gawd may indeed represent older privileged egomaniacal white males with mommy issues and deeply repressed desires to get it on with other guys but i digress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 For ****'s Sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Seems like Pete has a smaller lead in sde now, but not much smaller than at 62% (down to 23 sde) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Springfield Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Destino said: While it’s been mentioned that he’s gay it really hasn’t received as much press as I’d have expected. Compare it to the talk of female and minority candidates on stage, for example. It’s strange because I think in many ways a gay man is far more unlikely in the US than either a woman (earned the democratic nomination last election) or a person of color (two term President). Maybe his campaign doesn’t want to it to be a major theme of his campaign? I think that he’s trying, and succeeding, in presenting himself as an intelligent, articulate man. I think he’s trying to distance his sexuality from the race because it simply doesn’t matter. And when you have king grabber**** on the other side, it matters even less. As far as your first point, I think Iowa no longer matters in this race. It doesn’t matter if the results come out tomorrow or next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I've been with Mayor Pete since the outset. He's going to be the next president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Springfield said: I think that he’s trying, and succeeding, in presenting himself as an intelligent, articulate man. I think he’s trying to distance his sexuality from the race because it simply doesn’t matter. And when you have king grabber**** on the other side, it matters even less. As far as your first point, I think Iowa no longer matters in this race. It doesn’t matter if the results come out tomorrow or next year. I will say though that it was touching seeing him calling out and hugging his husband in his speech after Iowa and talking about struggling to feel like he belonged and finally feeling validated. And he has brought it up during debates. But it isn't a main campaign point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I don't pay attention to caucus results, only actual primary votes cast. The caucus process is stupid in my view. It denies some voters who can't get to locations at specific times their right to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: The caucus process is stupid in my view. It denies some voters who can't get to locations at specific times their right to vote. It really does seem to be an unnecessary complication. I’m not terribly familiar with the reason for it though. Does it add any value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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