Destino Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, mistertim said: Yeah, if this is their "smoking gun" then it's pretty weak. There could be lots of non-conspiracy reasons for what was seen. But from what I can tell on Twitter, like typical conspiracy theorists, they point to a video without context that doesn't actually directly show anything nefarious, scream "SMOKING GUN!", and refuse to investigate further to find out the full story. There's probably a 99% chance that the official explanation for this will be ignored and they'll continue screaming about it as if they found a video of a JFK assassination planning meeting. They’ve started sharing and supporting calls for Trump declaring martial law, invalidating the election, and ordering the arrest of journalists. So I’d say it’s a safe bet that we’re well beyond the point where Trump cultists are interested in facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Here it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 If it’s on OAN, it’s fake news. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Someone tweeted a response that the time stamp on the video isn't even from the day of the election, but a day or two before. Very likely could have been training for the counting of ballots. Either way it doesn't matter, the woman commentating on the video in reality has no idea what was happening, she is just making her own reality up. It's just more dumbness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, NoCalMike said: Someone tweeted a response that the time stamp on the video isn't even from the day of the election, but a day or two before. Very likely could have been training for the counting of ballots. Or a fake done by anybody else wanting to do false evidence... Just like Ocean's Eleven false chamber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: Either way it doesn't matter, the woman commentating on the video in reality has no idea what was happening, she is just making her own reality up. It's just more dumbness. Without the commentary, it's just a guy rolling a box across the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 It is just more cases of the Cult trying to run with anything they can make up in their own minds. It reminds me of the video from election day I believe in Arizona where a Fox News van showed up with a bunch of black cases of camera equipment, the van was spotted by the cult and they started shouting about how the van was "secretly bringing in phantom ballots for Biden" and the Fox News drivers were cracking up at them and said they were unloading camera equipment and even showed the person filming. I am sure in less than 24hrs one or more of the people who are in this surveillance footage will come forward and debunk the made up testimony from cult-lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Sheeeeet ima tell everyone who brings it up that it IS evidence and that we shouldn’t waste time voting in a rigged system. Protest by not voting!! It’s all right there on video. And Republicans did nothing. Not even Trump could save us. Then ima go vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, NoCalMike said: Someone tweeted a response that the time stamp on the video isn't even from the day of the election, but a day or two before. Very likely could have been training for the counting of ballots. Either way it doesn't matter, the woman commentating on the video in reality has no idea what was happening, she is just making her own reality up. It's just more dumbness. Yeah it's dated 11/01. I think GA was allowed to start opening and scanning absentee ballots up to 15 days prior to the election though. Are poll watchers present for those ballots prior to the election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 suckers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hail2skins Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, drowland said: Yeah it's dated 11/01. I think GA was allowed to start opening and scanning absentee ballots up to 15 days prior to the election though. Are poll watchers present for those ballots prior to the election? Just curious....where are you seeing 11/01? I'm looking at the dates on each of the quadrants shown and to me they all show as 11/03. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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drowland Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, hail2skins said: Just curious....where are you seeing 11/01? I'm looking at the dates on each of the quadrants shown and to me they all show as 11/03. My eyes are bad. I looked at the screenshot Cali posted and it looked like 11/01, but enlarging the video it is 11/03. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, visionary said: Question about this series of tweets. Isn’t this data derived from closing polls or something like that? Where people have to vote in person? Doesn’t that suggest that this data isn’t really reflected of the electorate at all and just the portion who voted in person? Im asking because I seriously don’t know. Sorry if it’s an ignorant question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mistertim Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, PleaseBlitz said: Without the commentary, it's just a guy rolling a box across the room. Yeah that video with commentary reminds me of conspiracy stuff like Loose Change. They basically run a video of something that doesn't actually show nefarious activity and/or has unknown/unclear context, then voice over it with leading "questions" that are actually just them pushing their addled version of what they want viewers to believe the video is showing. Then they say "Hey, I'm just asking questions! What's wrong with that?" even though they're not really trying to glean any information at all on what actually took place in the video but push their nutty conspiracy. And anyone who brings up the actual facts or contradicts them is then "in on it" or "compromised" and ignored or attacked. In modern parlance they would now be part of the "deep state". The only thing the ballot video is missing is ominous music. But I'm sure someone will add it eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, mistertim said: Yeah that video with commentary reminds me of conspiracy stuff like Loose Change. One of the people visionary quoted above about a few thousand ballots that need to be rescanned in GA also had thoughts on the video: Brendan Keefe on Twitter: "A few thoughts about the State Farm Arena surveillance video from election night: (thread) We need a lot more information. In my corruption investigations, I always keep in mind my own confirmation bias. "When all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." (1/5)" / Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, hail2skins said: Just curious....where are you seeing 11/01? I'm looking at the dates on each of the quadrants shown and to me they all show as 11/03. 37 minutes ago, drowland said: My eyes are bad. I looked at the screenshot Cali posted and it looked like 11/01, but enlarging the video it is 11/03. When the clip starts, it's 11/1. So this is patched together over 3 days. Which adds to the BS factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: suckers A voluntary tax on the morlocks, all of which will end up in lawyer's bank accounts I can live with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, mistertim said: Yeah that video with commentary reminds me of conspiracy stuff like Loose Change. They basically run a video of something that doesn't actually show nefarious activity and/or has unknown/unclear context, then voice over it with leading "questions" that are actually just them pushing their addled version of what they want viewers to believe the video is showing. Then they say "Hey, I'm just asking questions! What's wrong with that?" even though they're not really trying to glean any information at all on what actually took place in the video but push their nutty conspiracy. And anyone who brings up the actual facts or contradicts them is then "in on it" or "compromised" and ignored or attacked. In modern parlance they would now be part of the "deep state". The only thing the ballot video is missing is ominous music. But I'm sure someone will add it eventually. That's how Fox and RT do everything...with questions. Ever notice the chyron on Fox? almost always a question. RT's slogan is "Question More", but they question everything. And delve into some good topics like climate change, privacy protection, etc...but it always comes back to "we don't trust anyone or anything." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Re: video on oan it’s less important its authenticity and what is going on and whether we’re capable of understanding an explanation or not and more important whether the trumpers are fooled by it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 hours ago, NoCalMike said: Someone tweeted a response that the time stamp on the video isn't even from the day of the election, but a day or two before. Very likely could have been training for the counting of ballots. Either way it doesn't matter, the woman commentating on the video in reality has no idea what was happening, she is just making her own reality up. It's just more dumbness. The time stamp shows Nov 3rd... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, visionary said: Trump gained among minorities almost everywhere. I believe the numbers. I have some ideas. 1. The pandemic. Minorities were afraid democrats were going to shut things down. 2. "Greatest economy of all time". Some people believed it. 3. Trump kept saying that nobody has done as much for minorities as he has. Say what you want, but that convinced some people. 4. Celebrity endorsements from certain hip hop artists. IMO, it convinced some people. 5. "Defund" the police and the "socialism" attack. We know that Cubans, Venezuelans and Vietnamese voted for Trump. So clearly it worked. 6. I also wonder if there is some sort of circular firing squad going on. For example, "Black lives matter". Wonder if some hispanics and asians were like what about me? And then we have illegal immigration, which some minorities are completely against. Republicans are very good at divide and conquer. Some of these things look stupid, but it may have worked on some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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