visionary Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Juuuust gonna drop this here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSkin Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 They should be charged as terrorists and enemies of the state. Trump will probably reward them with medals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 For any of you lawyers out there... Are they overcharging with a first degree murder indictment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I don't think so. You don't accidentally drive your car into a crowd without some forethought. First degree all the way. It should be capital murder in Virginia. He could have killed more than one person, he did injure several, so attempted murder another felony to make it capital murder subject to the death penalty. That would take the wind out of their sails, those Nazi ****s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Let him plea down from firing squad to noose. ~Bang 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 35 minutes ago, Rocky21 said: For any of you lawyers out there... Are they overcharging with a first degree murder indictment? Absolutely not. The difference b/t first degree murder and second degree is premeditation, in other words, did you coldbloodedly think about what you were going to do in advance, and then go do it. A really good case can be made that this guy did that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Obviously I'd like to see the guy go down for this. Not being an attorney, I read on the internet that first degree murder requires that a defendant plan and intentionally carry out the killing, whereas second degree murder requires that the killing either be intentional or reckless, and occur in the spur of the moment. I don't want this guy to be proven not guilty because the prosecution can't prove it was premeditated / planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 The time of premeditation can be very brief. If he's in his car, sitting there and then guns the car into the crowd, that can be enough time, he could have driven the car in another direction. Besides, it was a crowd of people. If they guy was Muslim we wouldn't be having this particular conversation about degrees of murder. They can also charge him with the lesser included offense of second degree. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, Rocky21 said: Obviously I'd like to see the guy go down for this. Not being an attorney, I read on the internet that first degree murder requires that a defendant plan and intentionally carry out the killing, whereas second degree murder requires that the killing either be intentional or reckless, and occur in the spur of the moment. I don't want this guy to be proven not guilty because the prosecution can't prove it was premeditated / planned. 17 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: They can also charge him with the lesser included offense of second degree. This. I'm not a criminal attorney (I'm in financial services law), but it seems to me that getting in your car, starting it up, driving it to near where the crowd is, getting it in position, and then gunning it towards the crowd until you plow into them is an awful lot of premeditated planning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, visionary said: Hopefully they hire someone who goes all Wyatt Earp on Richard Spencer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 "I said throw down, boy!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 The mother of the slain woman said her daughter was concerned that the boyfriend was indoctrinating her daughter. He needs to be tried as an adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 If that guy survives they better lock him up for life. The daughter's got to be devasted. The rest of her life she'll keep thinking about how she got her parents murdered by a flirtation with white nationalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 These kids need to start getting beaten up at school and shamed. I bet this kid thought that he was a cool cat, so hip for his understanding of the “real truth” about Jews and minorities. This **** needs to be stomped out at a young age with violence and shame. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) I wonder how much the murderer's parents or school knew? We can only speculate the reaction if the kid was brown and it was an Islamic school. But this kid just had an interest in WW II history. Edited December 24, 2017 by Corcaigh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Springfield said: This **** needs to be stomped out at a young age with violence and shame. This is an excellent idea. Violence and shame are proven methods to produce happy, healthy, well-adjusted, integrated members of society. These methods would certainly never cause isolation or vulnerability to recruitment by fringe groups. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, techboy said: This is an excellent idea. Violence and shame are proven methods to produce happy, healthy, well-adjusted, integrated members of society. These methods would certainly never cause isolation or vulnerability to recruitment by fringe groups. Shame gets a bad rap. There're a lot of folks out there who would definitely benefit from some. Edited December 24, 2017 by Sacks 'n' Stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Shame gets a bad rap. There're a lot of folks out there who would definitely benefit from some. The Trump administration and Congressional Republicans come immediately to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 We need a conscious, concerted effort in this country to call out these assholes, a public national campaign to refute their lies, strip away their anonymity and make it "uncool", much the same way that smoking and drunk driving have been discouraged. I have to agree somewhat w/ techboy here, you cannot defeat monsters by becoming monstrous, but at the same time something sure as hell needs to be done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, LD0506 said: We need a conscious, concerted effort in this country to call out these assholes, a public national campaign to refute their lies, strip away their anonymity and make it "uncool", much the same way that smoking and drunk driving have been discouraged. I have to agree somewhat w/ techboy here, you cannot defeat monsters by becoming monstrous, but at the same time something sure as hell needs to be done. A good starting point is teaching children to think and reason. I would consider it a failure on my part if one of my kids fell for that crap. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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