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During the brief Flynn era, NSC staffers were shocked when two men who said they were associates of Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, showed up at NSC offices in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, wearing badges that indicated someone in the West Wing had let them on the White House grounds. They came with a 10-point plan for how the United States could turn Venezuela’s strongman president, Nicolas Maduro, into a U.S. stooge. The basics, according to people familiar with the incident, were as follows: The U.S. would release two nephews of Venezuela’s first lady who were in prison on drug charges; in exchange, Venezuela would free a young American man it had imprisoned on dubious weapons charges; then, Trump would meet with Maduro and the two would hash out some sort of arrangement where the U.S. would lift sanctions on the country’s kleptocratic government in exchange for unfettered access by American companies to the oil-rich Venezuelan market.

 

The entire pitch appeared to be “a pretext for this great business opportunity for them,” one person familiar with the incident said.

To prove their bona fides, the men — Gentry Beach and Wadie Habboush — called Venezuela’s foreign minister in front of the NSC staffers, leaving a voicemail, and showed a picture of themselves with Maduro, another person familiar with the episode said. “They pulled out a picture of them hugging Maduro. They were like, ‘Yeah, we were in Venezuela two weeks ago.’ And they were all doing the Trump thumbs-up sign,” the person said. The incident, details of which were first reported by Mic, so rattled the NSC staffers that they immediately reported it to the institution’s legal officers. One of the staffers was so alarmed at what he was being asked to consider that he drafted a resignation letter. The men pitching the idea even managed to get a meeting with Bannon.

 

54 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

They actually trying to go back to Trump didn't know about the payment!

didn't he admit to knowing about the payment. lol

 

 

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4 hours ago, mistertim said:

 

Obviously it will immediately go to the courts but as to what happens then...who knows. 

I can't imagine (okay I can but its silly) a court, and especially SCOTUS, holding POTUS as above the law while in office.

 

Like, we can't often determine what the founders thought outside of the plain language of the text, but if there ever was something pretty sure this is one time.

 

They literally wrote the whole damn Constitution to prevent an executive from becoming King.  The branches, the checks, it was all designed to vest the real power in Congress.

 

Combined with the fact that there is no bar to indicting a sitting President written in there and the pretzels you'd have to spin yourself into would be sold at ballgames.

 

And on top of that remember, they didn't want a king but didn't put term limits in place at the time.  Seems counter intuitive unless you consider they fully expected the President to be subject to all laws.  If they wanted him above the law while in office, they presumably would have limited his power in other ways, like via term limits or via the statute of limitations on crimes being put on hold while in office.

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13 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:
didn't he admit to knowing about the payment. lol

Cohen got him on tape too. Even ignoring that. If you thought it was on the up and up why cook the books to pay him back? Who's just going to pay off someone 130k and not know if they getting it back? I guess we'll see how stupid right wingers are if they start parroting this back.

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1 hour ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

They actually trying to go back to Trump didn't know about the payment!

 

Gaslighting at its worst.

 

Audio of Trump and Cohen discussing cutting a check - September 2016

 

Payment actually happens - October 2016

 

Gas.

Lighting.

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1 hour ago, Cooked Crack said:

Cohen got him on tape too. Even ignoring that. If you thought it was on the up and up why cook the books to pay him back? Who's just going to pay off someone 130k and not know if they getting it back? I guess we'll see how stupid right wingers are if they start parroting this back.

 

The tape is one thing, but Giuliani said Trump made the payments lol.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/02/politics/giuliani-hannity-comey/index.html

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1 hour ago, BenningRoadSkin said:
didn't he admit to knowing about the payment. lol

I mean, Christ. There’s a recording of them talking about it! We’ve all heard it!! The shameless lying and the willingness of half the country to abandon all principles and any use of their brains is staggering.

 

YIPPEE!! I’M A CONTHERVATIVE!!! 🤓🤓

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3 hours ago, Riggo-toni said:

I wish someone would dig up the audio file of Trump, Jr, and Eric on Howard Stern when he asked them "How much is 6 * 17?" Sr came the closest at 112... the sons were wildly guessing all over the place.

 

In their defense they were probably high.

 

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