BurgundyMalaise Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 The Caps just Shatt all over Crosby and Lemieux's late night snack, I hope it lingers all summer and then we can raise our banner on Opening Night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 said: why are ppl upset about Sanford? Dude's ceiling is 3rd liner lol Yeah, his ceiling isn't so high that it's worth getting up in arms about it. I think people are still salty about you-know-who, so any forward gets people concerned. But glad we kept Vrana and Bowey. We will need young guys, both for when all our guys want 11ty bajillion dollars as FAs and we have to let some go, but also once old age gets to some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Obviously hindsight will be 20/20 but how is this not a great trade? Sanford is nothing much and Caps have a 2 or 3 other really good prospects in Hershey so they can go a year without a first round pick. Caps are all in which is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I was so surprised to see this deal earlier tonight. Shattenkirk will be a FA, but this is a big win now move, and the price was not terribly high, which surprised me. I like Sanford, but like others have said, I don't think he has a terribly high ceiling, and we have other quality prospects waiting in the wings. I wish him well in St. Louis, but on the surface, this trade is a win for the good guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Springfield said: We'll see how it all works out I guess. Hope it doesn't backfire. Barring injury, how does it backfire? you just added another solid puck moving defenseman for a grinder and late 1st when Carlson is finally taken off the PP1, you'll be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Oh ****, I just now read that the Caps traded for Shattenkirk. I mean, I knew the rumors were out there, wow, pulled that trigger. An already loaded defense just stacked some more. Considering we ran into serious trouble last year after losing Alzner in the playoffs, this move helps us up top and gives us depth on D to handle losing someone. It's a win-now move, though, so we'd better, you know, win now. edit: I see Copely was also returned to us in the trade, so that should solve the goaltending depth problem we were to presumably face with Grubauer likely being drafted by Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 AND we got our #3 goalie in the trade GMBM truly is the MAC. And St Louis is retaining 39% of his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Slam dunk trade for the Caps. They got rid of an asset with a limited ceiling for a true top-4 defenseman. GMBM ain't stupid. He knows the window for this team quickly closing and this trade signifies that he is all in. If there is EVER a year for the Caps, this is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Finally! I have been begging for a win now move for years. Tired of GMGM's "2 years from now" bull****. Let's do this ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Also for those of you who don't follow college hockey, Shattenkirk won a crazy national championship when he was at BU in Verizon Center so the building should bring him good vibes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capcrunch98 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 When the trade broke last night I was certain that something else was included that wasn't being reported (Vrana, another 1st rounder, whatever). When you consider how late the two picks are going to be, and Sanford's average upside, I think the Caps gave up very little relative to Shattenkirk's potential impact over the next 4 months. They definitely gave up less than the going price for other top-end d-men in previous deadline deals (Bouwmeester, Yandle. Jack Johnson). I don't see any downside to this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I think the Caps have learned their lesson... the future is now. Glad to see this kind of move ahead of the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 On the whole I like the trade. Only piece that kinda hurts is the first round pick, but if we view it as trading a first round pick for a high chance of a Cup, I'm fine with that. I'll trade a late 1st for a Cup every season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, DogofWar1 said: On the whole I like the trade. Only piece that kinda hurts is the first round pick, but if we view it as trading a first round pick for a high chance of a Cup, I'm fine with that. I'll trade a late 1st for a Cup every season. Meh...it's no biggie considering it would be a late 1st round pick and how Ovechkin/Backstrom/etc. aren't getting any younger. By the time that pick is possibly ready to contribute, think of how small the window would be for this team to compete for a cup due to having aging superstars on the roster. Even if this turns out to be a rental, the Blues' haul isn't great. Just browse the St. Louis page on HF Boards and you'll see the vitriol directed towards their GM for this deal. If giving grades, it's an A-/B+ for the Caps, and probably a C-/D+ for the Blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 This is a weak draft anyway so now is the year to trade a 27-30 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 St Louis is retaining 39% of his remaining salary. Copley is back to be the #3 tender, so when Grubi gets drafted by the Golden Knights heis an NHL-ready-ish. Vrana back for 65 until he is 100%. Orpik might be out for longer than expected. He couldn't practice fully yesterday, wonder if he re-aggravated last years injury (as much as you can a broken femur)? I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary from the Philly game, but he missed back to back games, and likely misses tonight. There is nothing about this trade that isn't a win for the Caps. The conditions tied to the conditions pick are CRAZY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I really hope this is our year. We're doing everything possible. Just need some luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Dude is a monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 And he allows us to deploy: 27-74 9-2 88-22 I think Orpik is out for a little while to recuperate and then its a match-up issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 In thinking about it, with all the Caps' that have UFA status and with the impending expansion draft, maybe it's not a foregone conclusion that Shattenkirk won't be here past this season. Two big names...Oshie and Alzner come to mind. I think we may be priced out of the Oshie sweepstakes, and I wouldn't be surprised if GMGM nabs Alzner for the Vegas franchise. Might open the door to retain Shattenkirk while easing in a young guy like Bowey in the top-6 next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, RonArtest15 said: In thinking about it, with all the Caps' that have UFA status and with the impending expansion draft, maybe it's not a foregone conclusion that Shattenkirk will be here past this season. Two big names...Oshie and Alzner come to mind. I think we may be priced out of the Oshie sweepstakes, and I wouldn't be surprised if GMGM nabs Alzner for the Vegas franchise. Might open the door to retain Shattenkirk while easing in a young guy like Bowey in the top-6 next season. I would be STUNNED if GMGM didn't take Grubi. NHL ready tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, Popeman38 said: I would be STUNNED if GMGM didn't take Grubi. NHL ready tender. I think he's as good as gone...but I could see Alzner having a "C" on his sweater in the desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Popeman38 said: I would be STUNNED if GMGM didn't take Grubi. NHL ready tender. Alzner's a UFA at the end of the season. GMGM can straight up negotiate with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, PokerPacker said: Alzner's a UFA at the end of the season. GMGM can straight up negotiate with him. Caps would have to re-sign him before the draft...with a *wink* *wink* to GMGM that he'd be his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Love this. Finally going all in. This is the year we get a parade in DC in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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