Riggo'sRangers Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Michael C. Wright retweeted Chris Mortensen @mortreport · 1h1 hour ago Adam Gase has agreed to be Bears OC Soooo....any movement on a QB coach? So happy with Scot & Bill, but everything else nullified all the positive vibe. This ****ing Tampa bull**** has got to end. Just unbelievable. One step forward & two steps back. **** **** **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Yeah that's def the kick in the kahunas. I believe I am tapping out for next season. Is this team trying to suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Bears also got Adam Gase as their OC. Their coaching trio of Fox/Gase/Vangio is miles ahead of ours, yet it took em only 1 offseason.Meh, neither coaching staff is very impressive.I'm not sure why Fox keeps getting jobs, Gase is riding Peyton's coat tails, and I've never been impressed with Fangio. He was just an upgrade from Haslett, which is like an upgrade from hovel to shack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo'sRangers Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Well at least we are getting rid of some of the weak links, like Brian Baker. Kudo's for THAT move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dballer Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Maybe. I figure though you can do it less painlessly --schedule the Redskins interview later in the week and see if it helps the Bears budge. But yeah it would be the only thing that would make any sense on his end if he had no interest in coming here. What I keep wondering about though is why no official offer from the Redskins. Even if we were the dark horse candidate, we've been there before and still got the target by showing the candidate the money -- yeah maybe it wouldn't have gone anywhere but it seems very UnRedskins like to not even try.Well...we really don't know how the interview went. Maybe Fangio just did not interview well. Maybe he was interested but jay and co. weren't. The tweet about Raheem throws another angle in there but who knows what's true. I'm honestly not that crazy disappointed. I wasn't so high on Fangio that I'm distraught we missed him. And I'm not so low on Barry that I'm ready to pronounce the whole staff a failure before this season is finished... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor703 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm completely confused as to what's going on with this team? All the excitement Mac brought is quickly being sapped away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Michael C. Wright @mikecwright 18m18 minutes ago @Jizzie12 In this case, just got a text from a coach and passed it along. Didn't think anything of it. Forgot how rabid fan base is there. Michael C. Wright @mikecwright 27m27 minutes ago @Jizzie12 Source said Gase to Bears...and BOOM, it happens. Will continue to do so, but thanks. Man, I miss the Redskins beat. Haha. Michael got into a little spat with a Redskins fan who was questioning his sources. The ones he got from Vinny? I thought Danny Smith and Brandon Banks had them? Maybe they got them from Vinny originally. Someone needs to tell Dan that at this point, we would gladly stare at pictures of him naked and be completely non-judgmental about it if we would just do what needs to be done. I'm completely confused as to what's going on with this team? All the excitement Mac brought is quickly being sapped away. I think the long term excitement for Scot is being tempered by the smacks to the face we're getting concerning the 2015 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacoby6644 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Bottom line: Wins/improvement. People wanted Danny boy to not meddle. Wanted Gruden to be able to make his own decisions. Wanted a GM to manage the roster and find talent. All done. Now there maybe some issues and bent feelings about how this has transpired, I'll admit I'm not pleased, but who am I? I don't manage football teams or work in the industry so what do I know. However , I do know this: if this team doesn't win or show SIGNIFICANT improvement in all phases of the games, the entire coaching staff will be fired at the end of the season. If the team opens the first half any worse than 3-5, I think Jay is canned and Callahan is made interim HC. Scot is given the control of finding a new staff for '16. in McLoo's presser, he said Danny was embarrassed and just wants to win, etc... If this team and staff show no improvement, it will be a complete overhaul of the coaching staff and players. Based on everything I read, it seems like we should have a new scouting dept after the draft, just based on that being the common practice for new GMs to bringing in people they trust to evaluate talent. That would allow for a complete fresh start with SM running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm completely confused as to what's going on with this team? All the excitement Mac brought is quickly being sapped away. The most obvious narrative is the one most difficult to believe. Gruden was given a proving year. One year to get it right or get out. He's choosing to surround himself with the guys he knows and trusts best. Unfortunately, these are also people who have little to stand on in terms of accomplishments. Maybe all the chips on their shoulders will amount to an us against the world vitality. Maybe hiring Barry was a really smart choice, a brilliant coach who got blackballed because of Detroit. However, the release of Baker is baffling. Baker proved himself here and from what I remember reading everywhere else he has been too. I don't get it either. I am worried that 2015 is already a wasted year. Hopefully, I'm wrong and it is a year of redemption. We'll find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I think the long term excitement for Scot is being tempered by the smacks to the face we're getting concerning the 2015 season. I want to see a string of smart hires like Scot before I let myself start believing again. FO needs to demonstrate they actually have turned a real corner and it wasn't a case of a blind squirrel finding a nut w/ Scot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Darrelgreenie - it's not spilt milk, because the same clowns that presumably made a poorly informed/advised decision on a DC based on flimsy evaluation criteria are still running the franchise. It's unbelievable. Maybe we think spilt milk means different things then? I don't see what's unbelievable about Joe Barry's hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Michael C. Wright retweeted Chicago Bears @ChicagoBears · 2h2 hours ago #Bears have reached agreement with Ed Donatell to become their new DBs coach. He replaces Jon Hoke, who has been informed he won't return. And now the circle is complete. Bravo Bruce & Jay. Bravo. ****. Obviously Berry+Raheem>>>>>Fandango and the TMNT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It still is and has always been about the quality of the acquisition of talent. Pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It still is and has always been about the quality of the acquisition of talent. Pretty simple. I wish it were one thing, but '87 put the lie to that. It is coaching plus talent. It is not talent alone. Gibbs to take a bunch of scabs and take out a playoff caliber Dallas team coached by a HOFer. If you have mediocre or poor coaching than great talent can overcome. If you have great coaching then you can overcome poor or mediocre talent (at least for a while) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 So basically the Bears get the Broncos+49ers staffs and we get Chuck or Dingle Berry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSkin Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I don't remember where I read it today ( I think twitter and from someone covering the Senior Bowl), but whoever it was was alluding to Barry most likely wanting to bring his own guys in, as most coordinators do, and the team wanting to give Baker a chance to network and catch on with another staff. They mentioned how right now was prime time for that kind of stuff with NFL guys at the Senior Bowl and the new staffs coming together. Not saying I like it, but that was the spin on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 If Raheem is retained... I'll be sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 What i don't get is the craze this place went through last year and in 2008 when the coach was hired after the staffs were (or we didn't fire the staffs last year). Now we have a new coordinator and love him or hate him, do people really want to force him to work with a new staff instead of allowing him to bring in his own guys? Kinda backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 What i don't get is the craze this place went through last year and in 2008 when the coach was hired after the staffs were (or we didn't fire the staffs last year). Now we have a new coordinator and love him or hate him, do people really want to force him to work with a new staff instead of allowing him to bring in his own guys? Kinda backwards. Well, IF true... And Raheem is retained... I doubt that's one of his guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 If Raheem is retained... I'll be sad. Agreed. I'm holding out hope that while the package of Fangio and Donatell wasn't acceptable, retaining Morris wasn't the reason. Unfortunately, it's up to Joe Barry to decide now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I read the tweet earlier today that Donatell did not accompany Fangio. If this deal was contingent on us allowing secondary coach Donatell to replace Raheem and Gruden refused, I'll be torqued! Was I clairvoyant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Well, IF true... And Raheem is retained... I doubt that's one of his guys... But why? They do have history together, and for all we know Morris may be a good coach. People here were singing his praises after 2012 when we had the 7 game run and people were thinking he was calling plays. London days he should be defensive coordinator. So I'm not sure why he couldn't be a Barry hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 But why? They do have history together, and for all we know Morris may be a good coach. People here were singing his praises after 2012 when we had the 7 game run and people were thinking he was calling plays. London days he should be defensive coordinator. So I'm not sure why he couldn't be a Barry hire. I enjoy your optimism. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Fangio is WAY overrated on this board. Our defense will be young and mostly unknown going into next season. Move on. Fangio wouldn't have turned them into stars. San Fran was ripe for coaching with a great roster when he came in. We aren't there. Get over it. Hopefully our fans move on from thinking we are Super Bowl bound, and get excited about the concept of rebuilding from scratch. Enjoy youth and players we can hopefully hang our hats on for years. You can't have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I enjoy your optimism. Thank you. Oh, I'm not optimistic at all. I'm just not nearly as negative as this place is. Wait and see. Not going to destroy Barry just like i didn't praise Scot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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