Rufus T Firefly Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Yeah -there were missed calls. There was also a odd sequence that happened in our favor. I dont remember when exactly it was - But we had a third down and we had major confusion on our offense -Everyone running around trying to line up, play clock was about to expire - Then the ref ran in and seem to reset the ball and play clock and we had plenty of time to get the snap off. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? Yeah, that was strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Yeah -there were missed calls. There was also a odd sequence that happened in our favor. I dont remember when exactly it was - But we had a third down and we had major confusion on our offense -Everyone running around trying to line up, play clock was about to expire - Then the ref ran in and seem to reset the ball and play clock and we had plenty of time to get the snap off. Anyone remember what I'm talking about? I think the announcers said something about them being required to do that, because there had been a substitution, and they have to allow time for the other team to substitute, if they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 No the problem with the PF was... I believe the first penalty should have been enforced... The two deadball fouls should not have been those would have offset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Let me just mention the numerous times Skins receivers were hit or ridden well beyond the five yard zone last night and there was not one call made, but at a crucial 3rd down juncture for the Girls, Merriweather gets called for doing the exact same thing the Cokeboy d-backs did throughout the night. Worst was the play to Roberts where the Girls dback hits him about 12 yards downfield, takes him off stride, and the ball is overthrown. I think if he doesn't get hit it's a completion for a big play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The one thing nobody seemed to comment on with the play with the 3 penalties that offset was that it was 3rd down and we didn't make the first down on the play. So the penalties offsetting and replaying the down actually worked to our benefit as we got a second shot at making the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The one thing nobody seemed to comment on with the play with the 3 penalties that offset was that it was 3rd down and we didn't make the first down on the play. So the penalties offsetting and replaying the down actually worked to our benefit as we got a second shot at making the first. The original penalty would have given us the first. Desean starting a fight effectively gave it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamptonskinsfan Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Also just look at Jordan Reed's sideline catch, the defender actually turns Reed around by grabbing his jersey. No call, granted Reed made an awesome catch, therefore making it a moot point but what if he didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 No, you don't take the good with the bad. You change the bad. Maybe he hasn't changed yet because no other coach told him to knock that **** off. Ideally, sure. But that aggressiveness on the field is who he is. I'm sure plenty of coaches have told him to knock it off. And in the calm of the meeting room, maybe he's had a few moments of clarity where he says to himself that he needs to dial it back. But then the lights come on and adrenaline starts pumping... Let's just say I'm not optimistic that part of his game will change any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emor09 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I like the way DeSean acts. If he calms his fire with trash talk, it might change the fire he has during the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins0721 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Video of hold on Murphy I was SCREAMING at the TV when that happened. Unreal the ref at the back of the end zone didn't have the ballz to call that take down by the RT. Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Let me just mention the numerous times Skins receivers were hit or ridden well beyond the five yard zone last night and there was not one call made, but at a crucial 3rd down juncture for the Girls, Merriweather gets called for doing the exact same thing the Cokeboy d-backs did throughout the night. Worst was the play to Roberts where the Girls dback hits him about 12 yards downfield, takes him off stride, and the ball is overthrown. I think if he doesn't get hit it's a completion for a big play. Yep. I saw that one, and it was much more egregious than Merriwether's little tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 What I'll never understand is why offsetting penalties of the same severity (5, 10, 15, or more yards) result in replaying the down. If they cancel each other out, then why punish whichever team made a play? If they offset, then they should effectively have not happened. Hypothetical: Receiver makes the catch for a first down/score. There's hands to the face on offense (5 yards) and illegal contact on the defense(5 yards, auto first down). Because they offset each other, then shouldn't the receiver's first down/score stand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 THANK YOU Tsailand! I lost it over that no call. The game CLEARLY should've ended right there with that Safety. I'm overjoyed that in spite of it all, the fellas still Won. But seriously, Coach must officially protest this officiating to The League Offices. Sheesh, & I thought the Cardinal game was bad! (And to the OP, typically the Personal Foul should be called on the guy throwing the punch - and that was not Desean) im pretty sure i noticed desean throw 2 punches as well on the play where he got punched. i saw desean get the last punch in and i immediately though "oh god, the refs are always going to penalize the player that gets the last punch in, not the guy that starts the punching...bad move there". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Desean has to act more professionally. He saw the flag, his brain should have automatically told him it was an automatic first down. And really, an official protest to league offices? Yeah, that's how you're gonna get more calls to go your way in the future. What I'll never understand is why offsetting penalties of the same severity (5, 10, 15, or more yards) result in replaying the down. If they cancel each other out, then why punish whichever team made a play? If they offset, then they should effectively have not happened. Hypothetical: Receiver makes the catch for a first down/score. There's hands to the face on offense (5 yards) and illegal contact on the defense(5 yards, auto first down). Because they offset each other, then shouldn't the receiver's first down/score stand? Because it's always been like that. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Because it's always been like that. Get over it. When did Tony Wylie get an account on ES? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 When did Tony Wylie get an account on ES? Get over it means get over it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 What I'll never understand is why offsetting penalties of the same severity (5, 10, 15, or more yards) result in replaying the down. If they cancel each other out, then why punish whichever team made a play? If they offset, then they should effectively have not happened. Hypothetical: Receiver makes the catch for a first down/score. There's hands to the face on offense (5 yards) and illegal contact on the defense(5 yards, auto first down). Because they offset each other, then shouldn't the receiver's first down/score stand? Actually, what I don't understand is the ordering logic. For example, a player jumps offsides, but the refs let the play go. In order to protect the QB because of the early start a lineman grabs and is guilty of holding. Shouldn't the offsides count and the holding be waved off? There was no play after that offsides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Get over it means get over it!! LOL, I know, right? Completely unnecessary and tactless. Who opens a thread about asking questions about rules and feels the need to respond, "It's always been that way. Deal with it."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 It wasn't in regard to the OPs original question, it was to yours. There's a sense (not saying you, just a general sense in here) that many posters feel the rules have been altered over the last couple of years to benefit whoever is playing the Redskins. Now, i'm not saying the Refs aren't doing a pisspoor job in general, but it drives me up the wall when so many live and die with the belief that the refs primary job in every Redskins game is to find ways to screw them. It's cowardly and lazy IMO. Again i'm not pointing a finger at you, I just get easily twitched whenever I see someone questioning something that went against the Redskins. In regards to your confusion regarding why such and such happens, my immediate assumption was someone was going to take what you said and put together some rambling critique about how if that was any other team it would have been a first down and blah blah blah. I was just noting that it has always been like that. Penalties unless declined ALWAYS replay the down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Worst was the play to Roberts where the Girls dback hits him about 12 yards downfield, takes him off stride, and the ball is overthrown. I think if he doesn't get hit it's a completion for a big play. Another was what should have been a pass interference call on Scandrick when he held on to DeSeans left hand on the Redskins last possession going into the half. Would have been a first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodriggo Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Public voice to everyone within earshot: "Control you temper Desean." Whisper voice to Desean: "Keep doing what you're doing. I love you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I don't get why the hands to the face (which happened during the play) wasn't enforced, since the offsetting PF's were after the play/dead ball fouls?? Also, the Paulsen 15 yard PF for entering/leaving the huddle.. Why do they risk players getting injured on a play they already know is going to be called back, long before the ball is even snapped?? Seems like the same catagory as a false start to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 It wasn't in regard to the OPs original question, it was to yours. There's a sense (not saying you, just a general sense in here) that many posters feel the rules have been altered over the last couple of years to benefit whoever is playing the Redskins. I was just noting that it has always been like that. Penalties unless declined ALWAYS replay the down. 1) Yeah, I got that. Rules here are that you don't start a thread for something that already has a thread similar to it. So you're off there. 2) So I've never said that, which you acknowledged, but thanks for taking your attitude out on me. In my field we call that "displacement." 3) Never claimed or implied a rule changed at any point. You misread that. Either way, your post was completely unnecessary and contributed absolutely nothing to the thread. Don't try to explain it away, just man up, apologize, and move on. Don't be an ass to fellow Redskins fans when we just beat Dallas. That's just, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Sheesh, & I thought the Cardinal game was bad! The game that was bad was the Eagles game. The refs gave them first downs 4-5 times when they failed on 3rd and never once called obvious TACKLING by their OL in Kerrigan, Hatcher, and Orakpo all game long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 wait wait wait...why are people even complaining about the refs in a game that we were able to win? in the end, the refs didnt control the outcome of the game. we won, lets just be happy about it HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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