COWBOY-KILLA- Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Would love to sign a LG at some point that’s a little more proven than relying on the UDFA and leftovers we have, even if it’s Lavauo. Excluding a move there by Nsheke. These guys (Nsheke, Trent, and Morgan) aren’t gonna be full goes till TRaining camp and even then they’ll prob be eased in. Who is a real option and or upgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 3 hours ago, justice98 said: I don't know, it's all provided Payne and Settle are as good as advertised. Paynes floor is Hankins. A two down player in a league that continues to be about passing. If Payne becomes Hankins, it will be disappointing. He must be able to rush the passer to have great value and worth 1st round pick in today’s NFL. **Fascinating nugget, the Skins finished dead last in rushing yards allowed last year, but would’ve been top 5 in year 2000 with yards allowed in 2017. A total different game these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, wit33 said: Paynes floor is Hankins. A two down player in a league that continues to be about passing. If Payne becomes Hankins, it will be disappointing. He must be able to rush the passer to have great value and worth 1st round pick in today’s NFL. **Fascinating nugget, the Skins finished dead last in rushing yards allowed last year, but would’ve been top 5 in year 2000 with yards allowed in 2017. A total different game these days. We had our top 2 lineman Allen and Loannidis injured for most of the season, we were near the top in rush yards allowed with them starting. If you take the top 2 lineman out of any team it's not going to be good. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 6 hours ago, markmills67 said: We had our top 2 lineman Allen and Loannidis injured for most of the season, we were near the top in rush yards allowed with them starting. If you take the top 2 lineman out of any team it's not going to be good. Not just our two top DL, but both our starting middle LBs (Brown and Foster) were hurt in the season as well. When the entire interior of your defense is injured or out, your rushing defense will suffer. This draft was not just about getting good run stuffers, it was about getting better depth so that if (God forbid) injuries happen, the Redskins will be better equipped to deal with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 minute ago, SkinsGuy said: Not just our two top DL, but both our starting middle LBs (Brown and Foster) were hurt in the season as well. When the entire interior of your defense is injured or out, your rushing defense will suffer. Not just our top two DL and both our starting middle linebackers, but our starting safety as well. The entire middle of the field was gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 8 hours ago, markmills67 said: We had our top 2 lineman Allen and Loannidis injured for most of the season, we were near the top in rush yards allowed with them starting. If you take the top 2 lineman out of any team it's not going to be good. HTTR No doubt. Im one who thinks run defense in today’s NFL is overrated. A lineman must be able to do both to have good value these days. The Skins allowed just 1500 yards last season, earning a #32 ranking. Allowing the same amount of yards in year 2000 (1500 yards) would’ve ranked them in the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, SkinsGuy said: Not just our two top DL, but both our starting middle LBs (Brown and Foster) were hurt in the season as well. When the entire interior of your defense is injured or out, your rushing defense will suffer. This draft was not just about getting good run stuffers, it was about getting better depth so that if (God forbid) injuries happen, the Redskins will be better equipped to deal with them. Further, Nicholson, a decent run defender himself, went down forcing Swear to play a different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 McClain released ??? HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchrpe1 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Knew that one was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrobert Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 McClain signed a "four-year, $21 million" contract last year which reportedly included guaranteed money this season, but ESPN's John Keim reports McClain's $3.25 million base salary was not guaranteed. Either way, McClain is looking for work following a lackluster one-year stop in Washington. DL A.J. Francis was also cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Blaster Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 11 hours ago, wit33 said: Paynes floor is Hankins. A two down player in a league that continues to be about passing. If Payne becomes Hankins, it will be disappointing. He must be able to rush the passer to have great value and worth 1st round pick in today’s NFL. **Fascinating nugget, the Skins finished dead last in rushing yards allowed last year, but would’ve been top 5 in year 2000 with yards allowed in 2017. A total different game these days. I would still take Vince Wilfork in the 1st round if my team had issues stopping the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, markmills67 said: McClain released ??? HTTR Going youth on the d line..I like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, markmills67 said: McClain released ??? HTTR http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000930471/article/redskins-cut-veteran-defensive-tackle-terrell-mcclain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, markmills67 said: McClain released ??? HTTR I never feel good about someone losing their job, but I am glad that it was a pre-June cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxJoe Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 A.J. Francis also released, but there's no cap savings. I didn't realize how big he is, 6-5 337lb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 I feel a a bit bad for AJ Francis. He was a good underdog story who shone last preseason. Damn the injury bug stealing chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 So McClain is gone... gotta think the rest of the DL vets are on, alert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Hood might be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, RWJ said: Hood might be next. Hope so...Think Settle is more of a project short term, so in my opinion you go get Hankins. Hankins, Payne, Allen, Ion Man, Settle, plus the best of the rest. All young, very little money invested in the group as a collective. Dominant DL in a division with Zeke and Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Burgold said: I never feel good about someone losing their job, but I am glad that it was a pre-June cut. Yes, it is unfortunate that McClain lost his job, but some positions on a team just "die hard". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, RWJ said: Hood might be next. Hope not but he may be. I consider him a leader in the locker room and our only real vet on the D line. He has a 1.7M cap hit this year but may be a cut candidate bc his dead money is less than 200k. Also a numbers game: Allen Payne Ionnidis Settle McGee Lanier Hood or Phil Taylor I dont see us keeping 8 interior DL, probably not even 7 but I dont think we can stash Lanier on the PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Somewhat worried about LG, but really not sold on our secondary at the moment. Especially in terms of depth. Even in Moraeu ends up being good, what are we throwing out there even with just one injury in the secondary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 55 minutes ago, Why am I Mr. Pink? said: Hope not but he may be. I consider him a leader in the locker room and our only real vet on the D line. He has a 1.7M cap hit this year but may be a cut candidate bc his dead money is less than 200k. Also a numbers game: Allen Payne Ionnidis Settle McGee Lanier Hood or Phil Taylor I dont see us keeping 8 interior DL, probably not even 7 but I dont think we can stash Lanier on the PS Didn’t McGee get cut a couple hours ago or was that another “mc” guy? We have too many it’s hard to keep track ? oops that was McClain. Wrong McG player ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswerdlw Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 If we keep 7 on the DL, my guess is that we keep Hood. He can play both end and nose, so if any one of our guys goes down, we have a reasonable back. If we only keep 6, those six will be Ioaniddis, Payne, Allen, McGee, Settle, and Lanier. No question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Master Blaster said: I would still take Vince Wilfork in the 1st round if my team had issues stopping the run. Youd be set for 30% of downs and less versus the elite QBs. Vince was a special player, I think ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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