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We have all the negative political stuff all the time, post something positive:

 

For me, It's Mark Warner, VA Senator.  I posted about this a while back, but long story short, I defaulted on a student loan because I thought I only had 1 but actually had 11.  I had no idea that they broke them up into separate loans.  So, I get a letter saying I'm going to be garnished.  I write a letter to both Senators and several House Reps. I hear back from Warner's office within 3 days.  The issue is fixed within 10 days or so.  Eventually, when Warner is campaigning locally, he shows up at my son's football game and is making his way through the crowd. I tell him thank you, he says for what?  He stays with me for 10 minutes while I tell him the story, then, rather than taking the credit, he tells me the name of the aide that took care of it for me and told me that they were really passionate about helping people.  First class. Don't care what party he's in. I'm sure he has some things I don't agree with, but when it mattered, he helped me and didn't even take credit.

 

NOTE:  no other office contacted me. Not a single one.

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I'd say Elizabeth warren. 

I love that she fights for the working class and i also like the way she represents herself.

One thing in particular, when the incident occurred with her being silenced tens of thousands of people started crying that she was being silenced because she was a woman.

In an interview afterwards she was asked if she felt that way and she dodged the question.

She could have tried to use that to score points with her constituents but she didn't, she rose above it and i really like her for stuff like that.

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Probably gonna get things thrown at me, but I'd have to say that when I think of a good politician, I'd have to go with the first person I ever voted for, in an election.  

 

Gerald Ford.  Because he pardoned Nixon.  

 

My reasoning:  

 

Yes, I thought Nixon was an evil politician.  While some actually decent things happened during his administration (for example, every single one of the Apollo moon landings happened under his watch.), I thought that his paranoid, third world dictator, tone was probably the worst our country has seen.  (At least in some ways.  Our current batch may surpass him, in some areas.)  

 

And I absolutely thought he deserved to be impeached.  It was a great day for the country, when he fled from power.  

 

But I was talking about Ford.  

 

I thought Ford was right.  When Nixon left office, the nation was still pursuing him.  And I thought that it was making the tone of the country worse.  I think Ford was right, that the (well deserved) hatred of Nixon was driving the country apart.  

 

And I believe that it's absolutely guaranteed that Ford knew that pardoning Nixon would cost him, politically.  He might not have known that it would cost him "re-"election.  Maybe he figured it would hurt him, but that the "high ground" of being a sitting President would carry him to a full term, anyway.  But he absolutely had to know that it would hurt him.  

 

And I know that it's popular to assume that there was some kind of deal cut, where Nixon cut a deal with Ford to make him President, in exchange for a pardon.  But I don't buy those theories.  For one thing, I don;t buy Nixon making such an offer so plainly and openly, because if his target refuses the bribe, then he's given his target blackmail material to use against Nixon (or whoever Nixon picks.)  For another, Nixon would have to know that any politician willing to take such a bribe, is also calculating enough to know that Nixon can't make him deliver on the deal.  

 

In short, I'm left with the firm conviction that Gerald Ford, when he pardoned Nixon, made a very public, unilateral decision, which he knew would cost him politically, but which the country needed at the time.  

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15 minutes ago, Springfield said:

Thomas Jefferson.

 

Current politician, I'd have to think on that.

 

I would have mentioned Jefferson, too, but I'm reading Ron Chernow's "Hamilton" biography, and maaaannn, does Jefferson come across as a conniving ass.  I have to go back and read some more about him..

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1 minute ago, Dan T. said:

 

I would have mentioned Jefferson, too, but I'm reading Ron Chernow's "Hamilton" biography, and maaaannn, does Jefferson come across as a conniving ass.  I have to go back and read some more about him..

 

I think he was a great mind for politics and I wonder how he would view today's modern system.  I also think he was a bit of a shut in and probably would be a victim of the current media.

 

Great mind though.  Love reading what he's written on pretty much everything.

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1 hour ago, Dan T. said:

 

I would have mentioned Jefferson, too, but I'm reading Ron Chernow's "Hamilton" biography, and maaaannn, does Jefferson come across as a conniving ass.  I have to go back and read some more about him..

He was a conniving ass...connived himself right into serious debt (that he died in, iirc) establishing public education. 

He should be our hero, considering who is doing everything in her power to destroy his finest legacy now.

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Larry,

Off topic here, but curious. I was born in 1976. What was the atmosphere at the time. Was there a majority of the country who was behind him leaving office? Or was it a very vocal minority that supported him? I'm curious as to why the country was divided at the time. 

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Bernie. He pretty much aligns with 90% of what I believe. Really only disagree with him on guns and the Redskins name. Interesting, honest, funny, and classy guy as well. Tells it like it is. Doesn't blow smoke up ones ass either. He sticks to what he believes in whether people like it or not.

 

Plus he was the mayor of the town where my favorite band is from. Pretty much cultivated the environment that allowed them to prosper.

 

Elizabeth Warren is easily my second favorite for a lot of the reasons @redskinss already mentioned. Stands up for the poor, working, and middle class.

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i was gonna post marty robbins alamo song last friday as it's one that doesn't get much attention.  gets me a little teary.

 

they're all good---the cash version is a fave 

 

(i had one of those <real> hats as a kid---but my nick was boone for dan'l boone---same guy for me as a kid (fess parker) so that was cool)

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6 hours ago, redskinss said:

I'd say Elizabeth warren. 

I love that she fights for the working class and i also like the way she represents herself.

One thing in particular, when the incident occurred with her being silenced tens of thousands of people started crying that she was being silenced because she was a woman.

In an interview afterwards she was asked if she felt that way and she dodged the question.

She could have tried to use that to score points with her constituents but she didn't, she rose above it and i really like her for stuff like that.

I'm a personal finance junkie and before I knew she was a political entity a friend recommended her book The Two-Income Trap. 

 

Yeah. totally agree with you about her—she evokes something in her followers that Hillary never could. Hillary was a "head" choice, while it's easy to say that Warren is a "heart" choice (like Obama was—he was inexperienced) she carries a lot of cred in terms of leadership. Even as a registered Democrat—was Hillary who I wanted to be the first female president? Not exactly, would've taken it but . . . she reminds me of Merkel, a bureaucrat. 

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It is hard to seperate politicians from politics.  I don't think we have bad politicians now, but we have bad politics.  

 

I wish any current politicians would stand up and say that --- but they won't.  It is like they are paid to play a role in the status quo of the current system instead of working to improve it.  

 

So many places other than paid off think tanks I have read about viable solutions, issues, etc.  Yet no political party will touch them, ergo no politician will.  

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I really like Gavin Newsome.  Progressive, charming guy.  Gonna be the next governor of California I would think.  I'd like to see him run for POTUS, but he might be a couple of cycles away.  I think he could get out the vote.  He also tweeted a pic of the Lion from the Wizard of Oz to Paul Ryan as a birthday burn.  Gotta love that.  I want a Dem who wants to fight.  Tired of trying to always win the PR battle.

 

I had high hopes for Eliot Spitzer.  Loved the way he took on Wall Street and Big Pharma.  Thought he was really serious about fighting for the little guy, much in the same way Warren does but with a better track record for getting scalps.  Unfortunately, he had a small vice. :)

 

 

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On the one hand, I feel bad for Spitzer being brought down for paying for consensual sex. To paraphrase George Carlin (in order to get past profanity filters) selling is legal...sex is legal...so why is selling sex illegal? Why should it be illegal to sell something that's perfectly legal to give away?

On the other hand, what they nailed him on were the same laws against money laundering that he had used to go after bankers, alleged drug dealers, and their ilk. He learned from his time as a prosecutor how to hide the big financial transactions he was making to high end brothels. A sad bit of karma.

 

Of politicians that have some household recognition, I would probably go with Kasich. I might have said Huntsman until he agreed to endorse Drumpf.

 

Despite all the two Americas rhetoric, I am a big fan of Reagan and Bill Clinton. I liked Obama, and hated both Bushes. And as a sane person, I cannot stand Satan's pumpkin.

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I'd say Elizabeth Warren. If the income equality issues don't get addressed we are in for big trouble.  And before anyone cries socialism, I'm just talking about trying to insulate the system from the power wealth has to alter the system to it's benefit. 

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I have an old college friend in the House. Does he count?

 

Actually, the answer is my mom. She won a landmark WV Supreme Court case on ballot access to run for council in our little town of 3,000 people. That case has been cited often since 1978. I think that's a pretty good legacy for a councilwoman who represented around 800 people.

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10 minutes ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said:

I have an old college friend in the House. Does he count?

 

Actually, the answer is my mom. She won a landmark WV Supreme Court case on ballot access to run for council in our little town of 3,000 people. That case has been cited often since 1978. I think that's a pretty good legacy for a councilwoman who represented around 800 people.

 

Very cool.

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