PlayAction Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 6 hours ago, method man said: A reason the Dolphins are so good is because of the treasure trove of first rounders they got from the 9ers as they moved up to take Lance. If we can get to #3 or #4, hopefully a similar opportunity will be there Didn't Miami also trade a stud LT to the Texans? As I recall, Miami traded all of their good players away for draft picks and rebuilt the team from ground up. A couple of totally awful years and they were set for the long term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) This one doesn't line up with Tankathon...interesting... Edited December 4, 2023 by HigSkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, HigSkin said: This one doesn't line up with Tankathon...interesting... Depends on which Tankathon you're referencing. The one posted in here that wasn't updated with all the games, or the one that is on their website. now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: Depends on which Tankathon you're referencing. The one posted in here that wasn't updated with all the games, or the one that is on their website. now? This one posted today Edited December 4, 2023 by HigSkin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 @hogskin my assumption is Pellisero is using SOS through Week 13 rather than SOS over the course of the 17 game schedule, like Tankathon does. But that's pure speculation on my part. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 After Allen's popping off on the Junkies today, I really hope we could flip him for a high pick. I wonder if a bottom of the first contender would be willing to take Allen for a low first? The draft is finiky. Unpredictable. A complete crap shoot. If you're picking 25-32 in the first, you're a good team that possibly wants to win now. Allen would be an immediate contributor, you wouldn't have to pay his signing bonus, and he'd probably be super motivated. Known commodity vs. unknown. It would be wonderful for this team to have another first round pick, even a low one. I'd take a high 2nd, but if you're a team drafting high in the draft order, you probably want rookies more than veterans.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757SeanTaylor21 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 If we get 4, and Arizona is 2....you contemplate the idea of maye since we are in striking range of moving up. All depends on new fo but I believe howell can be the answer which would make me stay pat to draft fashanu. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 8 hours ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: Giants Uncommon Opponents: Raiders, Packers, Saints Commanders Uncommon Opponents: Denver, Chicago, Atlanta I'd say there's a pretty good chance the Raiders Packers and Saints end up with better records than the Broncos, Bears and Falcons So I have to assume Giants will likely hold the tie-break over us if we finish with the same record, which seems likely. If their opponents ended up with a better record, we would win the tiebreaker over them. At the moment, each group is collectively 16-20. So the Giants slight edge in that tiebreaker must be because we have lost one more game than them (since we are an opponent of theirs and they are an opponent of ours). So very up in the air. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 They should let the CFP committee choose the draft order. We’d be picking 2nd or maybe 3rd at worst. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Conn said: I could see this coming, so I was mad about the 2-0 start against some of the worst teams on our schedule. I knew this would happen, it felt so clear. In all honesty I was excited when the opener kicked off. By the 2nd quarter I literally said to my wife "same old crap team". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh32 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said: In all honesty I was excited when the opener kicked off. By the 2nd quarter I literally said to my wife "same old crap team". I knew they would suck in preseason..1st Offense WR's weren't getting open against 2nd and 3rd string Defenses nor could the Offense score TD"s against them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, bh32 said: I knew they would suck in preseason..1st Offense WR's weren't getting open against 2nd and 3rd string Defenses nor could the Offense score TD"s against them.. Osaka taught me never to read anything into preseason. But in the opener it was obvious this team still sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, bh32 said: I knew they would suck in preseason..1st Offense WR's weren't getting open against 2nd and 3rd string Defenses nor could the Offense score TD"s against them.. I knew they would suck this year way back in 2001. After the towers fell I had a vision of a man named Wylie wearing the number 71. It’s tormented me for decades Edited December 5, 2023 by Conn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said: After Allen's popping off on the Junkies today, I really hope we could flip him for a high pick. I wonder if a bottom of the first contender would be willing to take Allen for a low first? The draft is finiky. Unpredictable. A complete crap shoot. If you're picking 25-32 in the first, you're a good team that possibly wants to win now. Allen would be an immediate contributor, you wouldn't have to pay his signing bonus, and he'd probably be super motivated. Known commodity vs. unknown. It would be wonderful for this team to have another first round pick, even a low one. I'd take a high 2nd, but if you're a team drafting high in the draft order, you probably want rookies more than veterans.... Is Allen still being pissy and doing his angry guy routine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Is Allen still being pissy and doing his angry guy routine? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut0862 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 So if we end up at 4 what would we have to give up to move to 1 or 2? Would it cost us another first or would our 2nd this year be enough? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel.redskins Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Just now, peanut0862 said: So if we end up at 4 what would we have to give up to move to 1 or 2? Would it cost us another first or would our 2nd this year be enough? Definitely not. One important thing people are forgetting, is that there are plenty of teams behind us that may be a QB away who might trade 3 firsts to move up if Chicago or Arizona doesn't take a QB. Teams like Atlanta, Minnesota, Seattle. It will definitely cost multiple firsts to move up regardless of where we are at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut0862 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Thanks Daniel, that seems to much for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Is Allen still being pissy and doing his angry guy routine? Yeah, but I don't think he wore the head stocking, so it wasn't as pointed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted December 5, 2023 Author Share Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Daniel.redskins said: Definitely not. One important thing people are forgetting, is that there are plenty of teams behind us that may be a QB away who might trade 3 firsts to move up if Chicago or Arizona doesn't take a QB. Teams like Atlanta, Minnesota, Seattle. It will definitely cost multiple firsts to move up regardless of where we are at. You can add Jets and Tampa to that list as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I really hope we could flip him for a high pick. If you can get a low first round pick for any player on this team, you DO it. Trade Allen, Payne, Terry, it doesn’t matter. These guys are older and you might as well get younger and faster. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, dyst said: If you can get a low first round pick for any player on this team, you DO it. Trade Allen, Payne, Terry, it doesn’t matter. These guys are older and you might as well get younger and faster. Payne’s contract makes him hard to trade. Terry might be hard also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar1156 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Is Allen still being pissy and doing his angry guy routine? He's probably still dreaming about dining with Hitler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Looking at the games each team have to play I don't think we drop lower than 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 9 hours ago, PlayAction said: Didn't Miami also trade a stud LT to the Texans? As I recall, Miami traded all of their good players away for draft picks and rebuilt the team from ground up. A couple of totally awful years and they were set for the long term Yep. Got an absolute haul for Tunsil. A couple 1sts for an above average but not elite OT. It really was just one lean season in 2019 at 5-11. People forget that Flores then went 10-6 and 9-8 before McDaniel got there Chris Grier and team did a fantastic job building a fantastic roster via the draft and FA. Getting McDaniel, Hill, Waddle and the backs has put it over the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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