CBS: U.S. attorney reviewing documents marked classified from Joe Biden's vice presidency found at Biden think tank

[Fergasun]

The "press conference" was awful by the media. 

 

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT YOUR AGE AND MENTAL CAPACITY!!! 

 

ARE YOU TOO OLD TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

 

YOU SAID OTHER YOUNGER DEMOCRATS COULD BEAT TRUMP, WHY ARE YOU RUNNING!!!

 

CAN YOU TELL US WHEN YOU WILL DIE OF OLD AGE!!!

 

Also, he said, "President of Mexico" when he meant."President of Egypt"... 

[illone]

15 minutes ago, Fergasun said:

The "press conference" was awful by the media. 

 

Agreed, that was tough to watch.

[The Evil Genius]

34 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

How about we just see who can correctly say words like "yesterday" and "United States" without slurring...

 

Or can correctly identify their wife instead of a person they raped. 

 

Fwiw 300 pages to tell us that Biden sometimes forgets things? No **** Sherlock. I'm 49 and I can't tell you what I had for dinner 2 days ago without having to think hard about it. 😆

[The Evil Genius]

I should add this is probably a good case study of how the general public is so gullible for fake scandals. Y'all are mostly high intelligent voters and you're all marks for this report.

[Simmsy]

It doesn't look good, but I don't think this is bad. Dark Brandon is about to be released! Now, I'm not going to make excuses for Biden's memory or lack thereof, but dude was accused of being senile and not knowing when his son died...he's pissed. When dumbass Doocy asked him the question at the White House presser, Joe was clearly upset and I can see that it flustered him then and afterwards. Obviously, none of this is a good look, but I think its what the party needed. Biden isn't mad about the accusation of his memory, he's pissed that they're using his dead son, whether he actually forgot or not.

 

The GOP and Fox have been pushing the senile Biden narrative well before this moment, probably as soon as they realized Trump is a moron. The good news is that Trump will use this, he will use Biden's dead son as a weapon and it will absolutely backfire like it did before. You guys wanted to light a fire under Biden's ass, well, here is your flamethrower. Let the campaign begin!

 

 

[ixcuincle]

Biden depiction by special counsel

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CousinsCowgirl84]

6 hours ago, Fergasun said:

The "press conference" was awful by the media. 

 

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT YOUR AGE AND MENTAL CAPACITY!!! 

 

ARE YOU TOO OLD TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

 

YOU SAID OTHER YOUNGER DEMOCRATS COULD BEAT TRUMP, WHY ARE YOU RUNNING!!!

 

CAN YOU TELL US WHEN YOU WILL DIE OF OLD AGE!!!

 

Also, he said, "President of Mexico" when he meant."President of Egypt"... 

 I didn’t the news conference so not sure if it was as bad as the news media is making it seem, but it sure is ironic to hold a news conference about the soundness of your faculties while appearing to have the loosest grasp of them compared to any other speech this year. 

 

 

Personally I think he was so pissed off about the report taking shots over him and his dead son and the media eating it up so he made an emotional decision to get up on the stage unprepared, flustered, and angry…

[tshile]

7 hours ago, The Evil Genius said:

Fwiw 300 pages to tell us that Biden sometimes forgets things? No **** Sherlock. I'm 49 and I can't tell you what I had for dinner 2 days ago without having to think hard about it. 😆

Right?

 

what really irritates me is a random song from the 90s comes on and I remember every single word 

 

it’s frustrating how many important things I don’t remember because 90’s and early 00’s songs occupy the space 

[tshile]

6 hours ago, The Evil Genius said:

I should add this is probably a good case study of how the general public is so gullible for fake scandals. Y'all are mostly high intelligent voters and you're all marks for this report.

Well that’s just nonsense. 
 

first - the fact this is happening is in and of itself a problem, regardless of how any particular person feels about the impact of his age. 
 

second - his age and how he looks and acts has been a problem that’s been pointed out for a while now, and nothing in this report does anything to change it. 
 

the libs and Biden supporters want to ignore it and try to distract by pointing out trumps age, and won’t come to grips with why this is an issue. 
 

These are the same people that thought Hillary Clinton was a great candidate 😂 

 

btw I’ve been hearing her podcast ads a lot lately. It’s incredible how much she sucks as sounding genuine or authentic about anything. I can’t for the life of me imagine her show is any good to anyone other than the loyalists  

[ixcuincle]

 

[Larry]

44 minutes ago, tshile said:

 

These are the same people that thought Hillary Clinton was a great candidate 😂 

 

btw I’ve been hearing her podcast ads a lot lately. It’s incredible how much she sucks as sounding genuine or authentic about anything. I can’t for the life of me imagine her show is any good to anyone other than the loyalists

 

1)  Agree with you. Hillary Clinton gives off creepy vibes. 

 

2)  But Hillary Clinton was a great candidate. 

 

In support of that, I'll ask just one question. 

 

Would the US be better, right now, if Hillary had won the election?  

 

If it takes you more than one second to answer that question, there's something wrong with you. 

[TheGreatBuzz]

3 minutes ago, Larry said:

Would the US be better, right now, if Hillary had won the election?  

 

Hillary being better than Trump does NOT mean that she was a great candidate. 

 

*and my comment isn't meant to imply she was or wasn't. Just saying your question sucks.

[TradeTheBeal!]

Remember when Biden tripped over the sandbag or such that was left on the stage?  

[ixcuincle]

The US would be better with Hilldog as president that said Hillary ran a terrible campaign and ignored the whole working class

 

her fault she lost

[Fergasun]

I saw a social media post that pointed out:

Bill Clinton investigated by GOP Ken Star

Hillary investigsted by GOP James Comey

Trump investigsted by GOP Robert Mueller

Trump investigated by independent Jack Smith at least. 

Biden investigated by GOP Robert Hur. 

 

There was no need to put a Trump appointed special counsel on this case.

 

Merrick Garland kind've sucks at his job.

[88Comrade2000]

If Biden loses, then only one to blame is him.

 

For various reasons there are groups of people who will will not vote for him. That position is hardening.  There will be some that will vote Trump. I can see some black and Hispanic men voting Trump. I do think third party vote will be a factor this time. It doesn’t take that much to tip the election.  It wouldn’t shock me to see the race sent to the house; deny both men 270 in the initial EC count. Also, they are some people who will just sit out.

 

The Muslim vote in Michigan could tip that state to Trump. No they won’t vote for Trump but they could vote 3rd party or stay home; due to our support of Israel.

 

 

[Fergasun]

@tshile

Hillary is horrible at politics and marketing and subject to 20 year slime campaign.

 

But as a "candidate", taking out the marketing noise, she was the most qualified person to run the country we have seen in a long ass time.  First lady, Senator, Secretary of State.  

 

"She's more successful than me and she acts like it.  Omg I can't vote for her. Also she's frumpy and probably a horrible wife which is why she lets her husband cheaf on her."

 

Versus Trump

 

"He"s such a regular, down to earth guy...I am going to ignore he's successful by stepping over little people, ignore his cheating acandals and divorces... I like racists like me!  He says the things I want to say."

 

I'll just say it. Our country is full of pieces of s@#t who act like they are the "salt of the earth" and that's the GOP base.  Just look at this lawyer, Bob Hur.  

[tshile]

1 hour ago, Larry said:

Would the US be better, right now, if Hillary had won the election?  

We’d be better off if a squirrel was in charge instead of Trump. 
 

If she was a great candidate she would have beaten a historically bad candidate. The fact some people still can’t come to grips with that is hilarious. 
 

Balancing having respect to answer your question as well as the numerous calls to stop having this conversation - I’ll leave it at that. 

Edited February 9 by tshile

[Larry]

52 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

Hillary being better than Trump does NOT mean that she was a great candidate. 

 

*and my comment isn't meant to imply she was or wasn't. Just saying your question sucks.

 

Yeah "great" is debatable, at least. 

 

"The best choice, by any rational measurement imaginable" isn't the definition of "great".  Maybe "good enough" also fits that situation. 

 

But the standard that's being used here, to try to attack Biden, seems to be "I can find one thing about him to complain about.  One narrative that can be successfully exploited". 

 

It's "Superman isn't great, because kryptonite exists".    

 

And no, I'm not saying Biden is Superman, either.  I'm saying that the argument that this poster is constantly harping on is "well, he has this one flaw I can pick at constantly, which proves that he shouldn't be running at all".

 

I'm pretty sure that I heard Biden referred to as "a gaffe machine" in the 80s.  Gerald Ford pumped his head on Air Force One.  W couldn't say "nuclear".  

 

None of those are why I voted for, or against, those people.  

 

He's right in that Hillary probably isn't HOF material.  In the sense of "marble statue in his monument great".  

 

Maybe my point would have been better phrased as "No, the Democrats did not make a mistake in nominating Hillary.  Maybe the term that fits best is that she was certainly a worthy candidate."  Or "No, Trump did not win the election because Hillary was worse than Trump."  

[PokerPacker]

1 hour ago, Larry said:

 

1)  Agree with you. Hillary Clinton gives off creepy vibes. 

 

2)  But Hillary Clinton was a great candidate. 

How can you possibly claim Hillary was a great candidate, given that she lost to Donald ****ing Trump.  And this was before he was able to build as big of a cult as he formed while in office.

1 hour ago, Larry said:

In support of that, I'll ask just one question. 

 

Would the US be better, right now, if Hillary had won the election?  

 

If it takes you more than one second to answer that question, there's something wrong with you. 

That's terrible criteria for someone being a great candidate.  The country would be a better place if a ****ing coma patient was elected in 2016.  Being a less terrible option than Trump is an incredibly low bar.

 

The only thing she had going for her, other than her name, is her "qualifications", which were all handed to her and not earned.  She carpet-bagged her way to New York where a Democrat is guaranteed to win election, and wouldn't you know it, every other Democrat dropped out of the election and her only challenger came from a non-politician.  Then after getting her ass beat by Obama when it was her turn to be President, she was appointed to a cabinet position.  And then finally won the Democratic nomination when it was, again, her turn, and all of the party members dropped out of the race leaving only the independent socialist who caucuses with the party to run against her.  And the scales were clearly tipped in her favor by the party throughout the primary.

An actually great candidate would have earned their qualifications themself, and they would have had a runaway victory against Trump before he had built his huge cult status.

[tshile]

15 minutes ago, Larry said:

I'm saying that the argument that this poster is constantly harping on is "well, he has this one flaw I can pick at constantly, which proves that he shouldn't be running at all".

If you can’t demonstrate a better understanding of what I say, then there’s no point in having a conversation.  
 

The extent to which I “harp” on this issue, is to deal with the people that are blind to the fact that it is quite obviously an issue. Bidens age is not an issue for me specifically - I wish we had someone different for numerous reasons but I don’t believe his mental stability is something that puts the country at risk - and I’ve made this point several times over the course of months and numerous threads. So learn how to track people’s opinions correctly, or stop pretending you are when you consistently do a terrible job of it. 
 

And Biden has more issues than what the public thinks about his age. Pretending otherwise is laughably naive. Believe it or not, there’s still plenty of people that take issue with the democrats overall platform and some decisions he’s made over his term. 

[tshile]

Also on the general subject - there’s a huge difference between what one personally thinks about an issue, and what one sees the general public’s reaction (and therefore how votes may or may not be impacted) by an issue

 

for example - I personally don’t think bidens age makes him a threat to the country. I do however not like the idea of a 50ish year politician that’s late 70’s being president. I think he’s contributed to many of our problems over his career. I think people like are overly invested in political power struggles. I think he’s far, far removed from understanding every day life, even if him and his speech writers and put words on paper to try to appeal to them. So I do have issues on some level, an do have a desire for new blood in the system, and do wish we had more to our candidates besides internal political power built up over decades. But I don’t think his age is a threat or means we have a senile president. 
 

but I do think the general public is swayed by silliness, and I think his age will be an issue for him and having this report is damaging in terms of winning a popularity contest which unfortunately is what the general public seems to act like all this is. 
 

You really have to separate what you think is good/bad because you think you’ve appropriately analyzed things, and what’s good/bad in the sense of running a national campaign that relies on winning over a population that mostly finds “speaking in a 3rd grade level” to be appealing and worthy of their vote. 
 

his age and how he comes across is an issue, regardless of what you personally think about it all. And if you can’t see that, then you’re not paying attention. Perception can be reality, and it’s quite clearing an issue on some level, regardless what we think about it here. 
 

and if you’re response is “but Trump…” then you really don’t get it. “But Trump…” may be enough for him to win, but it doesn’t do anything to speak to any real issues Biden faces in winning over the general public. He can win, but something still be an issue that had to be dealt with. 

[The Evil Genius]

I'm still curious how an investigation into classified materials being mishandled by Biden became a 300 page hatchet job about Bidens age and memory. 

 

In what world would those be linked?  Rather than finding nothing worthwhile, the GOP investigation gives us what they think Biden will claim as a defense. 🤔

 

How is that even worth a soundbite unless you are looking for any excuse to vote Trump again. Which apparently a lot of people here are. 

 

I should add. This is a zero sum argument. Biden or Trump. Pick one. Live with it. Own it.

 

There is no alternative.

[TheGreatBuzz]

59 minutes ago, tshile said:

We’d be better off if a squirrel was in charge instead of Trump. 
 

If she was a great candidate she would have beaten a historically bad candidate. The fact some people still can’t come to grips with that is hilarious. 
 

Balancing having respect to answer your question as well as the numerous calls to stop having this conversation - I’ll leave it at that. 

 

It's pretty much impossible to know who is a good candidate based on only foresight. But is very easy to tell with hindsight.

 

Just look at the result.

[Larry]

1 hour ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

 It wouldn’t shock me to see the race sent to the house; deny both men 270 in the initial EC count.

 

Which third candidate do you see winning which state(s)?