CBS: U.S. attorney reviewing documents marked classified from Joe Biden's vice presidency found at Biden think tank

[The Evil Genius]

8 minutes ago, Spearfeather said:

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BFD. I'm 49 and I forget what year I was married all the time. I forget what year my MIL passed. I don't forget the day and month for either.  Neither did Biden about his sons death. 

 

Hell we are about 3 months into 2024 and I still type 2023 half the time. 

 

But hey, go ahead and run with the idea that Biden is mentally challenged. 

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[Califan007 The Constipated]

6 minutes ago, Spearfeather said:

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You apparently think this is, what...damaging to Biden? I can't easily recall the year my sister died, my mom died, or my dad died without doing some mental math...and even then I get it wrong half the time. I have literally asked my siblings which year our sister passed away before. Hell, I can't even tell you the year now if anyone asked. How many people do you think are the same? I can remember what I wore to my sister's funeral, what the bathroom tile in the church felt like against my skin as I laid down on it sobbing alone away from everyone, what the weather felt like as I placed a rose on my sister's coffin, what color pants I wore to her funeral, and what my aunt said to my nephew--my sister's child--as he broke down in the car crying. But I can in no way tell you what year she passed away without doing a bunch of adding, subtracting, and free form associating to figure it out first.

[Spearfeather]

1 minute ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

You apparently think this is, what...damaging to Biden? I

 

Just trying to clarify what exactly transpired.  Make of it, what you will.

[Califan007 The Constipated]

8 minutes ago, Spearfeather said:

 

Just trying to clarify what exactly transpired.  Make of it, what you will.

 

No you weren't lol...come on, now. A lot more than just that transpired during Hur's questioning of President Biden...you just highlighted that one thing to make a point.

 

Not to mention, asking someone to remember the year of a specific event is not the way cognitive decline is detected or measured. They ask the person what year it is now, who the president is, what month it is now, show them a picture of a dog and ask them what animal it is...stuff like that. As well as Hur is not a cognitive specialist! lol...he has no clue how to detect nor analyze things of this nature, so his observations are worthless, at least in terms of determining Biden's mental capabilities.

 

If the GOP is smart, they won't even slightly ask Hur about Biden's alleged memory issues. That would be the absolute dumbest thing they could do...which is why I expect them to do just that lol.

[tshile]

Also, “what was it when <thing happened>? <suggest year>?” Is a pretty normal way to go about discussions with someone. It’s a way of communicating - you can argue it’s not productive or efficient, but it’s something I do a ton and I hear others do a ton. 
 

extrapolating that out to “you have cognitive deficiencies because you obviously can’t remember <something important>” is a stretch that requires such a high level of bias, you totally ignore the reality you’ve lived in your whole life where many people speak like this. 
 

and that’s really the issue with most of this nonsense. You have to start with such a heavy bias, then go looking for stuff that could potentially confirm that bias if you ignore reality. 
 

ie: you're being deceitful and not interested in even attempting to hide an obvious and bull**** bias. 

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[Spearfeather]

13 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

Biden...you just highlighted that one thing to make a point.

 

Right. To reference what was being talked about in those tweets.

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[The Evil Genius]

 

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[TheGreatBuzz]

3 hours ago, Spearfeather said:

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Personal anecdote time. I have always been able to tell you the exact date my dad died. But I always struggle with the year. I'd have to stop and think, do some math, etc. I carried that with me as a burden for so long. It made me feel like I didn't love enough. Hearing that Biden struggled with the year Beau died (though that story now seems twisted) really helped me. Not only did it take some of my personal load off, I felt my comfortable saying it. That's how I found out its actually very common. It's made me feel so much better.

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[Bang]

Thing is, Biden could literally be brain dead and he's still a MILES better choice than anyone the GOP has floated up.
The President himself, he's only part of it. It's the people around them, and Trump's "best people" all end up in ****ing prison because they're crooks and swindlers and thieves. That is, the ones who aren't Kremlin.

 

It is unfortunate that circumstance created by the utter depravity and moral collapse of the Republican party means that an octogenarian is the best choice.

But they made the bed by shoveling heaping mounds of cow-**** into it, all while every single person not helping them shovel was warning them about exactly what was happening.
Now they are bound and determined to sleep in it and pretend the stench isn't overwhelming.

 

Suckers of the worst kind. 

 

~Bang

 

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[The Evil Genius]

 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

24 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

 

 

 

Abso-****ing-lutely spot on by Schiff. I've said this before, but when I had to give testimony in a deposition, lawyers told me ahead of time to ALWAYS say I can't remember or recall unless I remember something with amazing clarity. That it was miles better to say "I can't remember" than to guess at what I think the answer is. And what Hur did was absolutely done to give the GOP talking points against Biden for the presidential campaign. Hur turned "President Biden said he could not recall" into something like "President Biden constantly struggled with memory issues as he said he could not recall even the most basic facts surrounding the documents, he would be seen as a sympathetic grandpa if he were to be charged."

[tshile]

It’s nice to see the hearing

 

it doesn’t matter though. The damage is done. No one ever pays attention to the follow up or corrections. 
 

the people that need the information won’t watch the hearing. They’ll happily point to the report as evidence he’s too old, but they’ll never watch the hearing or accept anything that comes out of it. 
 

we live is a dumb society. You see this issue everywhere. 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

6 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

 

 

 

Actually I think Brian got it wrong...sounds more like Hur said "2001 TO 2002" and not "2001 OR 2002"...and sounds like he's associating that time frame with his own term, not with the Supreme Court making the decision, although I have no clue why he's even bringing it up from that clip.

[China]

1 hour ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

Personal antidote time. 

 

Is that needed because of your toxic personality?

 

I assume you meant anecdote.

[The Evil Genius]

Just now, China said:

 

Is that needed because of your toxic personality?

 

I assume you meant anecdote.

 

I'm sure Buzzette thinks he's a pain in the ass every now and then. 😁

[LadySkinsFan]

The Democrats should have asked Hur if he was a medical professional, specifically for psychology or neurology. 

 

I recently fell and hit my head and the questions I was asked were in the present: day, president, when I fell, etc. 

 

I remember when my mother and brother died because it was was Christmas day (mother) and a few days before my mother's birthday during the summer of my stroke (brother). These are pretty specific. I know the year and maybe the month my father died, but I wasn't in touch with him for decades.

 

Hur is a hack.

[Cooked Crack]

 

 

[Spearfeather]

7 hours ago, The Evil Genius said:

BFD. I'm 49 and I forget what year I was married all the time. I forget what year my MIL passed. I don't forget the day and month for either.  Neither did Biden about his sons death. 

 

I think it's some people, pointing out that it wasn't Hurr that raised the issue.

It was Joe.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/transcript-documents-probe-contradicts-bidens-account-exchange-hur/story?id=108033689

 

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A transcript of President Joe Biden's interview with the special counsel who investigated his handling of classified information contradicts the president's characterization of an exchange about the death of his son, Beau Biden, from brain cancer.

 

[PokerPacker]

7 hours ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

Not to mention, asking someone to remember the year of a specific event is not the way cognitive decline is detected or measured. They ask the person what year it is now, who the president is [...]

Well we've already seen Trump fail that one.

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[Spearfeather]

2 hours ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Califan007 The Constipated said:

 

 

 

 

He's  right. She's mischaracterizing what Hur said in the report.

She's being slick with her words. She says " date year,"  and then goes and uses " month ", however, Joe started the subject of Beaus death himself, ( Hur never asked him about month and day ) and was asking himself " When did Beau die ? " And then he answers himself " May 30th ", and then a staffer reminds him " 2015 " to which Joe responds " Was it 2015 when he died ? "

So Hurs statement about Biden not knowing within a few years when his son died, is correct.

 

[Fergasun]

Hur and the GOP got screwed because they released the transcripts.  I feel like the GOP is pretty dumb. Except the media ran with the whole "doubts about Biden's memory" for a really serious 3 to 4 day news cycle.  If the media wasn't so reckless to repeat GOP / Hur talking points for that time. 

 

Of course, now its gonna be "Special council's are highly partisan" while the GOP and Trump can point to Hur and say "Jack Smith is doing the same thing!!" 

 

To be fair, I think Hur tried to play it as straight as possible - save one attack.   I just don't think his ad hominen attack, amplified by the media was straight.  He could have just said, "it is unlikely that a jury would find Joe Biden willfully did this...".   

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

1 hour ago, Spearfeather said:

He's  right. She's mischaracterizing what Hur said in the report.

She's being slick with her words. She says " date year,"  and then goes and uses " month ", however, Joe started the subject of Beaus death himself, ( Hur never asked him about month and day ) and was asking himself " When did Beau die ? " And then he answers himself " May 30th ", and then a staffer reminds him " 2015 " to which Joe responds " Was it 2015 when he died ? "

So Hurs statement about Biden not knowing within a few years when his son died, is correct.

 

Would you be willing to submit to a memory test?