CobraCommander Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, Ball Security said: John Beck was deemed the #1 starter at one point. Buttfumble was our QB at one point too. There have been much worse situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Ah sorry guys. It's just been bad for a very very long time and it still is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Alex won games. TH has a winning record as a starter. They're quite similar, only TH's contract is cheaper, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, Koolblue13 said: This might be the worst our QB situation has been since Spurrier. 2018 with Josh Johnson and Mark Sanchez was pretty dang bad. 😬 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinhan Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, Koolblue13 said: Ah sorry guys. It's just been bad for a very very long time and it still is. i think its pretty easy to agree that our QB situation is still bad... i dont know how anyone can argue against that.. but at least we are winning some games despite our situation at QB 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, CobraCommander said: Buttfumble was our QB at one point too. There have been much worse situations. oh yeah, when we were down to out fourth string QB. And we only carried two on the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, sjinhan said: How can anyone not cheer for this guy?!?!?!? Ok lets save the discussion about if he is the future for the offseason.. but for this season.. Heinicke is our guy!!! I don't think anyone here is hoping for Heinicke to lose or rooting against him. It's just recognizing that he is who he is...a backup, and that we'll have to (once again) try and figure out what to do about our QB situation after this season. TH is scrappy and fiery and a good story, but he's too limited as a QB to be more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 John Beck has some QB university in Colorado, I believe. Apparently, he's a better mentor than player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Captain Wiggles said: 2018 with Josh Johnson and Mark Sanchez was pretty dang bad. 😬 Jesus christ I forgot that happened. Wow, it's impressive the QBs we've started. while being gaslighted by the gibbs "3 different QBs" era thinking it doesn't matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ball Security said: John Beck was deemed the #1 starter at one point. I think I went to a SF game with Beck at QB and had 15 completions to IIRC Skip Hicks. Captain Checkdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bacon said: TH has a winning record as a starter. They're quite similar, only TH's contract is cheaper, I actually think they're very different players. Alex Smith was super conservative by nature, so we didn't push the ball down the field much with him. Heinicke is aggressive by nature, but we don't push the ball down the field much with him because his mind tends to write checks that his arm can't cash, so our OC limits downfield passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwvr Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, mistertim said: I don't think anyone here is hoping for Heinicke to lose or rooting against him. It's just recognizing that he is who he is...a backup, and that we'll have to (once again) try and figure out what to do about our QB situation after this season. TH is scrappy and fiery and a good story, but he's too limited as a QB to be more than that. I agree 100 percent . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Simmsy said: Apparently, he's a better mentor than player. Well, he'd almost have to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazedSkinsfan Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 I missed the entire game but just catching up here. Sounds like our defense played lights out and the offense was what it's been all year?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 I'm not routing against Heini I just don't like him. Him and Alex are total opposites but both did win games. If you're arguing if Heini or Alex are your best QB of the last 20 years, nobody is winning. You say it's the worst and people bring up all sorts of other worsts. It' bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinhan Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, mistertim said: I don't think anyone here is hoping for Heinicke to lose or rooting against him. It's just recognizing that he is who he is...a backup, and that we'll have to (once again) try and figure out what to do about our QB situation after this season. TH is scrappy and fiery and a good story, but he's too limited as a QB to be more than that. yeah for sure... in the offseason... we will need to give TH an extension... a top end backup QB contract... clearly, we will need to continue to look for a replacement but at least, I feel more comfortable that we can maybe go with TH being the 1-2 year gap guy so we dont need to get desperate for a QB ala Denver (thank god we lost the bidding war) gave away for Wilson. But meanwhile for next 6-7 weeks... lets just enjoy the ride! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, RandyHolt said: I think I went to a SF game with Beck at QB and had 15 completions to IIRC Skip Hicks. Captain Checkdown. I bet it was Roy Helu. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, RandyHolt said: I think I went to a SF game with Beck at QB and had 15 completions to IIRC Skip Hicks. Captain Checkdown. Roy Helu? 3 minutes ago, DazedSkinsfan said: I missed the entire game but just catching up here. Sounds like our defense played lights out and the offense was what it's been all year?? correct, you’re all caught up 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinhan Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Ball Security said: I bet it was Roy Helu. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/11/7/2543787/roy-helu-fantasy-football-recap-washington-redskins-vs-49ers-franchise-receptions-record great memory! Redskins record 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, mistertim said: I actually think they're very different players. Alex Smith was super conservative by nature, so we didn't push the ball down the field much with him. Heinicke is aggressive by nature, but we don't push the ball down the field much with him because his mind tends to write checks that his arm can't cash, so our OC limits downfield passes. What I meant was more that they're both high intangible QBs who aren't particularly athletic outside of some scramble ability that bring confidence and results despite massive weaknesses. Their mentalities are very different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarExpress Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Ok, and? Your point? Respectfully, I think he’s reminding you that you are not posting from the deck chairs on the Titanic as it sinks. It’s 2022, so many options. You just have to be prepared in advance. Hope you feel better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, dc1 said: I'll answer. Winning, 5-1 under TH (for whatever reason). Team comradery (The team, to a person, credits TH's energy). Team cohesion (The team is winning and and the players on the team would like to keep it going). ...For a start. Edit.. I inadvertently dropped a win from the team. Should be 5-1 under TH. Yeah I love him too. Do you think we have our franchise qb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 55 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Doc Walker IMO coming off hypocritical. Typically he’s about just win baby, but on the radio now coming off like this was a borderline loss because the offense didn’t score enough Doc walker is a walking example of incomplete getting additional air tine because former coworkers like him . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, sjinhan said: yeah for sure... in the offseason... we will need to give TH an extension... a top end backup QB contract... clearly, we will need to continue to look for a replacement but at least, I feel more comfortable that we can maybe go with TH being the 1-2 year gap guy so we dont need to get desperate for a QB ala Denver (thank god we lost the bidding war) gave away for Wilson. But meanwhile for next 6-7 weeks... lets just enjoy the ride! I think we'll probably give TH a moderate extension, though that probably depends on how the Wentz situation plays out. The coaches clearly have never seen TH as even a stopgap guy, otherwise they wouldn't have been so desperate to sign other QBs over the last couple of offseasons. He has played exactly the same this season as he did last season (though his stat line was better last year) so I doubt their thinking on the situation overall has changed much. I think we'll either end up keeping Wentz out of sheer desperation or picking a guy high in the draft. I suppose we could trade or try another FA, but the pickings will probably be slim. Edited November 20, 2022 by mistertim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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