tomwvr Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, mistertim said: Sure, but Wentz also has the arm to stretch the field so if he's given time he can push the ball in a way Heinicke just can't. I have no clue if the outcomes would have been the exact same, but can we please stop pretending that Heinicke is doing much more than handing the ball off and making the occasional routine completion? He elevates the others around him wentz does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, Skinsinparadise said: I was jealous of the Cowboys defense last year but no more. We don’t have a pass rusher as good as Parsons but this defense IMO is in the same tier as Dallas and maybe even better than them now. If we even just had a pedestrian passing game this team would be very dangerous IMO Our D is better for sure and Parsons is special I guess and it sucks something extra to me that he is. He was a scumbag in college but he went to PSU which I kinda connect with. It's just a personal thing with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Something about Parsons doing well makes me more upset. Hope Chase has been watching how he bends and converts speed to power while using his hands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc1 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Bacon said: Dak stinks I don't know the context here .. but I approve. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, dc1 said: I think we all saw the Wentz that got released from the Eagles, released from the Colts and was 1-3 with the Commanders. The team looked disjointed when he was in and Terry was not a factor. I don't want to see Wentz again. Lets keep our 2nd round pick, and he can go to a team that has a solid OL.. allowing him to take his time in the pocket and prove the world wrong... Did I say I wanted Wentz back in? No. I just think it's silly to talk about it as if Heinicke has been a big factor in these wins. He hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, tomwvr said: And 4 scoring drives and the last drive to kill the clock. The two drives with short field goals ended due to the team getting away from what was working in play calling and why do you think the team is limited in what plays they can call and execute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, tomwvr said: Taylor saved a game on that bad snap. With Wentz that would have been a td for the defense don't make up fake scenarios to justify your silly homerism. It was a bad snap and easily catch able 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwvr Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, mistertim said: Did I say I wanted Wentz back in? No. I just think it's silly to talk about it as if Heinicke has been a big factor in these wins. He hasn't. As long as we win or are sure wentz cabt get 70 percent of the snaps taylor should play. Just now, Koolblue13 said: don't make up fake scenarios to justify your silly homerism. It was a bad snap and easily catch able Not this game the eagles game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Even if TH ultimately has the impact of a rally cap, if it works, it works. We'll get our wins while we can and figure it out in the offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwvr Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Conn said: and why do you think the team is limited in what plays they can call and execute Because taylor is limited. But he is the best option for this team as set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Conn said: Hope Chase has been watching how he bends and converts speed to power while using his hands Yeah, that's pretty much the answer to that. If Chase can match Parsons, our Dline would be easily historic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, mistertim said: Sure, but Wentz also has the arm to stretch the field so if he's given time he can push the ball in a way Heinicke just can't. I have no clue if the outcomes would have been the exact same, but can we please stop pretending that Heinicke is doing much more than handing the ball off and making the occasional routine completion? Except our OL wouldn't have given Wentz to sit back there for 7 seconds while throwing a ball down the field. So this imaginary Wentz can push the ball down the field is not there. 1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said: remember when you tried to blame the defense for losing? Was NOT blaming the defense but was hoping that they would have tried to stop the Vikes from scoring for the win. They played really good game but on that series I would have liked a stop at least so they couldn't score more than 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc1 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, mistertim said: Did I say I wanted Wentz back in? No. I just think it's silly to talk about it as if Heinicke has been a big factor in these wins. He hasn't. I hear you. And I didn't say that you wanted him back in; but the implication was that Heinicke's play was indifferent to the success of the team and that Wentz would have been able to do the same at a bare minimum. I'm saying that I disagree and that I don't want to see Wentz back in. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, tomwvr said: Because taylor is limited. But he is the best option for this team as set up decent chance this is true. Just want to make sure we keep our eyes on the ball in this shell game the defense is allowing us to play each week. We need more from the offense for this to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 z, you know what you did and I'm not going down that road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, mistertim said: Did I say I wanted Wentz back in? No. I just think it's silly to talk about it as if Heinicke has been a big factor in these wins. He hasn't. Heinicke has not NOT been a big factor in these wins. Your move. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Koolblue13 said: Yeah, that's pretty much the answer to that. If Chase can match Parsons, our Dline would be easily historic. Chase isn’t in the same atmosphere as Parsons, he is a freak. I hate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, max21 said: Chase isn’t in the same atmosphere as Parsons, he is a freak. I hate it Chase was a freak the year before. Don't discount what he did. He was an amazing rookie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, Koolblue13 said: z, you know what you did and I'm not going down that road. I was upset yes and it made it seem like I was down on the D the whole game. Guess I should have been even more clearer for you. Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 When Wentz is ready we need to play him. We can always sit him the last game at this point if we miss the playoffs to keep our 2nd vs keeping our 3rd. One of them is gone. If we aren’t going to play Sam, I’d rather see if wentz can turn it around to the 70% point vs playoffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Heinicke has not NOT been a big factor in these wins. Your move. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, Koolblue13 said: Chase was a freak the year before. Don't discount what he did. He was an amazing rookie. Not even close to Parsons rookie year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc1 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Just now, mistertim said: Lol! Well played! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 I would play Heini until Wentz loses the 2nd, then play him and see if he's the future and if he strugggles, throw a game or two to Howell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Our D is better for sure and Parsons is special I guess and it sucks something extra to me that he is. He was a scumbag in college but he went to PSU which I kinda connect with. It's just a personal thing with him. I remember the reports. What made me wonder though is I recall saying on the draft thread, watching him on the ESPN hey rookie show, he came off really well personality wise, granted small sample. Charismatic, articulate, Uber competitive. He was definitely the Alpha male among his peers in that hey rookie group Edited November 20, 2022 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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