wit33 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 @Koolblue13 being an Eagles fan, he was liked by a good portion of the locker room in Philly, right? What was the issue with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On the plus side, can anyone look at this and really say it has Dan's fingerprints all over it? Doesn't seem flashy enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: That's an old Madden stat list. They updated it recently: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Zim489 said: You cant read... shut up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Now we are only 5mil over the cap. Some players will need to be cut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan93 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I’m really torn on this trade. I do think he’s a better option than Trubisky or Jimmy. At worst he’s a stopgap for one year and we can still draft a qb this year. Prior to Eagles drafting him, I said his mechanics were poor. Hopefully Turner and company can fix it but more importantly Wentz is willing to learn and not try to do too much. Most of his fumbles occur when he holds the ball way too long and tries to be like Big Ben. He takes too many chances instead of throwing the ball away when needed. Maybe after being traded twice in 2 years, he becomes a bit humble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovi Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 According to JP Finlay our SB winning odds got worse after the move. 60-1 before, 75-1 now. HAHA 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said: This still gives us the ability to package Wentz and picks for a superstar This We now have someone tradable. This time next year we will have a QB on a multi-yr deal w/ no G money. That is tantalizing as a trade prospect. We wont be in the same scenario we were in this year where we had nothing to offer other teams at QB. This lets us sit at the bargaining table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, NickyJ said: On the plus side, can anyone look at this and really say it has Dan's fingerprints all over it? Doesn't seem flashy enough. We definitely would have thrown in Daron Payne if Dan was negotiating this deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, wit33 said: @Koolblue13 being an Eagles fan, he was liked by a good portion of the locker room in Philly, right? What was the issue with him? He just didn't get along with the new coach. He was the old guard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Can't wait to talk about which QB we should move up to draft next year because Wentz won us just enough games to keep us out of a top three pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I hate that potential trade value in picks. However, I’m in on Wentz at QB. Think he significantly improves us at that position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Commander Wentz will be great for us. I’m pumped up about it. He’s like a Brad Johnson or Rich Gannon. Add some pieces and we got a shot. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, SoCalSkins said: Commander Wentz will be great for us. I’m pumped up about it. He’s like a Brad Johnson or Rich Gannon. Add some pieces and we got a shot. Wait. YOU? Being positive??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Well, it's not low 20s. It's basically $28m+. 26m+ 27M+. The angst (not really accurate for me as I don't care about this team anymore), even coming from a guy who was something of a Wentz fan a year or two ago, is the guy is clearly so toxic that contender who just traded a 1 for him was in consideration to just pay him the 15 mil and let him go. He can't stay healthy, has regressed and has teammates and coaches who want no part of him. No way would I consider paying three years and $82 mil or so for a guy like that. Much less give up draft picks for the privilege. They should have given picks to take on the deal because it saves them the guaranteed money they were likely going to eat. It's hard for me to say a guy who went 27/7 last year has regressed. There's definitely more to the soup as far as him as a person, as to why the Colts were ready to cut bait - but there's still nothing out there that I've seen as far as actual stories about him that make him so toxic. They also don't have to pay him $82MM, they owe him $28MM and can cut him with no cap hit after the 2022 season if he doesn't work out. Beggars cannot be choosers and I'd wager there were other teams interested in his services, so the whole Colts take the cap hit to cut him scenario doesn't hold much water for me. If anything, I bet the Colts have something else up their sleeve coming real soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Cooleyfan1993 said: Wait. YOU? Being positive??? I love the move. Add Bobby Wagner and Amari Cooper who don’t count against the comp pick formula and we land a third next year for scherff and it’s a great off season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCalSkins said: Commander Wentz will be great for us. I’m pumped up about it. He’s like a Brad Johnson or Rich Gannon. Add some pieces and we got a shot. Woah, stop the ES press. SoCal is happy about something. Kidna worries me and cools me off a bit about this. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I like Wentz the best among the 3rd type options. And lol it gives me peace of mind of no Trubisky here. Wentz > Trubisky Wentz > Winston Wentz > Mariota Wentz > Jimmy G One year trial. I am betting there is a good chance they still take a QB in the draft too. Will see. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: It's hard for me to say a guy who went 27/7 last year has regressed. There's definitely more to the soup as far as him as a person, as to why the Colts were ready to cut bait - but there's still nothing out there that I've seen as far as actual stories about him that make him so toxic. They also don't have to pay him $82MM, they owe him $28MM and can cut him with no cap hit after the 2022 season if he doesn't work out. Beggars cannot be choosers and I'd wager there were other teams interested in his services, so the whole Colts take the cap hit to cut him scenario doesn't hold much water for me. If anything, I bet the Colts have something else up their sleeve coming real soon. LOL. "A 2nd, a 3rd, probably another 2nd, a swap of 2s and 28 mil for one year isn't so bad because we can just cut him in a year" is a great defense of a trade. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Hate the value we gave up on the trade. Well, it looks like no qb for sure in the first. I wonder where we go now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, CobraCommander said: Can't wait to talk about which QB we should move up to draft next year because Wentz won us just enough games to keep us out of a top three pick. If that happens we are shipping our 2nd to indy. not very conductive to moving up for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) News reports from Philly were that he did not get along with teammates, that he was arrogant with coaches and would not accept criticism. Dallas and Philly fans are laughing hard right now. This was a panic move which should have been avoided. So disappointed now. At one point Doug Pederson and Carson would not speak to each other. Why do we always hire some other teams garbage? Years ago when we hired Norv Turner we got several ex-Cowboys who were over the hill and later we released all of them. Edited March 9, 2022 by veteranskinsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Getting a 2nd back in addition to Wentz shouldn't be overlooked. And if only next year is guaranteed, that's even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, veteranskinsfan said: News reports from Philly were that he did not get along with teammates, that he was arrogant with coaches and would not accept criticism. Dallas and Philly fans are laughing hard right now. This was a panic move which should have been avoided. So disappointed now. At one point Doug Pederson and Carson would not speak to each other. Why do we always hire some other teams garbage? I heard this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, skinsfan93 said: Prior to Eagles drafting him, I said his mechanics were poor. Hopefully Turner and company can fix it but more importantly Wentz is willing to learn and not try to do too much. Most of his fumbles occur when he holds the ball way too long and tries to be like Big Ben. He takes too many chances instead of throwing the ball away when needed. Im torn on this, I remember early on in his career never feeling like he read the field well, but he was excellent with extending and creating plays which led him to be anointed as the next rising elite QB. It seems he lost some confidence and has been battling with being more conservative versus being true to himself. This is from a far out view, look forward to hearing from others more in the know and reading up on him. He played (early in Eagles career) a lot like we see Mahomes and Allen doing these days, but lost his way/confidence. I’m intrigued. How do some feel the fit in Turners scheme will compliment his skill-set? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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