Undrafted Free Agent Tracker

[Ball Security]

As far as an UDFA QB goes, isn’t it difficult to get five guys reps? Especially when your #1 is new to the system and your number 4 has never seen a preseason snap.

There were a handful of CBs that I wished they could have landed for competition and a couple of TEs too.

 

I do think that Forrest and the 7th round DEs will compete for special teams opportunities which takes away some opportunities for UDFAs.

[justice98]

3 hours ago, Wyvern said:

I'm also in the camp with those wondering if WFT is really going too slow out the gates in UFDA signings.  As of last night, WFT only had one signing, when 30 other teams had multiple signings.  (Only the Patriots had none.)  There were some decent candidates who went undrafted -- but most of those were snapped up by other teams.

 

I'm glad WFT did sign a UFDA RB, but if this is about instilling competition at every position, why not find some other UDFAs at other positions too? For example, it might have been worth taking a chance to sign another UDFA QB to light a fire under Allen and last year's QB project, Montez.  Or does last year's practice squad plus this year's draftees provide sufficient numbers?

 

Right now, WFT'S approach to the UDFA signing seems overly slow.

 

Below is the link I was using when I wrote this:

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-udfa-tracker-2021-undrafted-free-agent-signings-following-2021-nfl-draft/

 

Unless I'm mistaken, they're already at the 90 roster limit. That's including the draft picks.

[Malapropismic Depository]

7 hours ago, KDawg said:

The only reason he fell was his size

 

 

They have it backwards.

His size, or lack thereof,

is what will lead to his greatness.

Less cushion for the pushin,

for a defender to grab hold of.

[clskinsfan]

This roster is pretty stacked ya'll. Really not a lot of reason for an UDFA to sign here. I could see a Guard or TE possibly having some interest. Maybe a LB? But pretty much every other position is set in stone after this draft. 

[skinny21]

12 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

This roster is pretty stacked ya'll. Really not a lot of reason for an UDFA to sign here. I could see a Guard or TE possibly having some interest. Maybe a LB? But pretty much every other position is set in stone after this draft. 

I see a lane for a corner (vs Stroman/Johnson, especially if we move toward more man coverage), TE (not sure about Reyes in terms of his status/how he counts, and battling Bates/Baugh), LB (chance to offer more upside to Bostic/Mayo/JHC/Norris), S (Reaves/Everett/Apke/Forrest aren’t answers at FS, as of now.  Chance at PS here), K, Edge (it’s Young/Sweat and then virtually nothing) and RB (Patterson is intriguing, but I worry about how well rounded he is, and McKissick/Barber might be gone next year).  Lastly, I think there’s a PS spot for DT as our top 4 are all slated to be FAs in the next year or 2.  To your point, G is a possibility too, because though we’re set at the moment, things could change in a hurry w/in a year.

I think edge and running back offer pretty good chances to be a contributor this year.  Edge because of the lack of proven depth (and Kerrigan’s departure leaves a lot of snaps unaccounted for), RB because it’s an easier position to fill in quickly and Barber is relatively one dimensional for us - a guy that has some blocking ability could quickly show more upside (both for Barber’s role and as insurance for Gibson).

 

Generally agree though - this roster is pretty stacked...

[Wyvern]

1 hour ago, justice98 said:

 

Unless I'm mistaken, they're already at the 90 roster limit. That's including the draft picks.

Thanks!  This helps explain things.  Frankly, I didn't realize they'd signed so many folks (13) to reserve future contracts back in January, and then added Reyes too.  The weird part is they have so many bubble players at TE and a few other places they filled with more 7th rounders, and yet, eseenitally, it's only David Mayo backing up Bostic at Mike linebacker, and no one competing against Hopkins.

 

Still it was very helpful.  Now I can,only hope they find decent talent among all the bubble players they'd committed to, and/or quickly cull out a few of the most marginal bubble players at TE, in order to better balance the competition and depth within the linebacking group, and if needed to make room for any last minute veteran UFAs they might sign.

 

Here is the link I looked for after receiving your feedback.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/5/2/22415344/wft-post-draft-depth-chart-we-have-a-90-man-roster-and-still-looking-to-upgrade

 

[Malapropismic Depository]

1 hour ago, justice98 said:

 

Unless I'm mistaken, they're already at the 90 roster limit. That's including the draft picks.

 

Of course, they're not locked into that. That can change in an instant.

As you know, a lot of those guys are either borderline players or simply camp fodder.

So it would be nothing, to cut one of them, in order to make room for an UDFA they really like.

[PartyPosse]

38 minutes ago, Wyvern said:

and no one competing against Hopkins.

Isn’t Vedvik still part of the team?

[clskinsfan]

57 minutes ago, Wyvern said:

Thanks!  This helps explain things.  Frankly, I didn't realize they'd signed so many folks (13) to reserve future contracts back in January, and then added Reyes too.  The weird part is they have so many bubble players at TE and a few other places they filled with more 7th rounders, and yet, eseenitally, it's only David Mayo backing up Bostic at Mike linebacker, and no one competing against Hopkins.

 

Still it was very helpful.  Now I can,only hope they find decent talent among all the bubble players they'd committed to, and/or quickly cull out a few of the most marginal bubble players at TE, in order to better balance the competition and depth within the linebacking group, and if needed to make room for any last minute veteran UFAs they might sign.

 

Here is the link I looked for after receiving your feedback.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/5/2/22415344/wft-post-draft-depth-chart-we-have-a-90-man-roster-and-still-looking-to-upgrade

 

 

Interesting article. Especially the part about the team not knowing a lot about this years crop of UDFA's. They will have more knowledge of next years draft class. So expect more UDFA's after next years draft. Also explains why they signed so many futures contracts earlier in the year. Less risk with a known player even if they arent that good. 

[Jericho]

32 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

Isn’t Vedvik still part of the team?

 

No, he was cut on January 28

[LetMeSeeYourWarFace21]

 

22 hours ago, LetMeSeeYourWarFace21 said:

Holy ****, welcome to DC Mr. Patterson........

 

 

 

 

After re-watching this highlight video, another thing I love about this dude, is that he rarely celebrates in the endzone after a score. 

 

You got guys who make a 5 yard TD run and give a 10min celebration. This dude has games with multiple 50+ yard TD runs and he just tosses the ball to the ref, ala Barry Sanders. That's scary to me, in a good way. 

 

And I dont say this from an old bitter fan perspective. Unless my team is getting crushed, I LOVE for my team to celebrate after making plays. But there's a respect I give to guys with Pattersons ability, who can break a 80yrd TD run and act like they could give 2 ****s about it. 

 

Sometimes there are late round & undrafted rookies who have these amazing highlight videos, and then get cut the 2nd week of camp. I hope the guy in these highlight videos shows up to camp and makes the squad. 

[Captain Wiggles]

Really hoping Patterson is able to replace Barber and his whopping 2.7 yard average. 🤞

[COWBOY-KILLA-]

Patterson is an exciting and prolific UDFA..

He’s got a real shot at making this roster. Hope he can pass block, don’t know a lot about those skills for him.  Poor man’s Micheal Carter? Excited about his potential. 

[DWinzit]

2 hours ago, clskinsfan said:

This roster is pretty stacked ya'll. Really not a lot of reason for an UDFA to sign here. I could see a Guard or TE possibly having some interest. Maybe a LB? But pretty much every other position is set in stone after this draft. 

They could use someone at every position for the PS. At Guard it seems like almost every OL we have can play G, I  am not as worried about that position as others.

2 hours ago, Wyvern said:

 weird part is they have so many bubble players at TE and a few other places they filled with more 7th rounders, and yet, eseenitally, it's only David Mayo backing up Bostic at Mike linebacker, and no one competing against Hopkins.

Thing about MLB with Bostic and Mayo is, in the 4-2 neither will need to be on the field now with the addition of Davis. They don't need anyone behind them. It would have been nice if they could have grabbed a Moses or Fisher in the 7th or as a UDFA because they might have allowed for Bostic or Mayo to be cut and saved cap space.

[Malapropismic Depository]

1 hour ago, clietas said:

Really hoping Patterson is able to replace Barber and his whopping 2.7 yard average. 🤞

 

 

A big reason why Barber's YPC is so low, is because he's used almost exclusively in short-yardage situations.

So he's running against stacked and compounded D-Lines, most of the time. So a low average is kind of expected with that type of specialist.

But in those situations he's hugely dependable on getting those 2 yards for the 1st Down, or the TD. That's what makes him so valuable.

So I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the roster again.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if he's replaced either ; Perhaps, by someone who can dependably accomplish the above, and have some more versatile tools.

 

[PartyPosse]

28 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

 

A big reason why Barber's YPC is so low, is because he's used almost exclusively in short-yardage situations.

So he's running against stacked and compounded D-Lines, most of the time. So a low average is kind of expected with that type of specialist.

But in those situations he's hugely dependable on getting those 2 yards for the 1st Down, or the TD. That's what makes him so valuable.

So I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the roster again.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if he's replaced either ; Perhaps, by someone who can dependably accomplish the above, and have some more versatile tools.

 

Not only that, he’s never been a sideline to sideline runner. He’s a north-south guy which means he’s going right into the jungles.

[mhd24]

38 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

 

A big reason why Barber's YPC is so low, is because he's used almost exclusively in short-yardage situations.

So he's running against stacked and compounded D-Lines, most of the time. So a low average is kind of expected with that type of specialist.

But in those situations he's hugely dependable on getting those 2 yards for the 1st Down, or the TD. That's what makes him so valuable.

So I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the roster again.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if he's replaced either ; Perhaps, by someone who can dependably accomplish the above, and have some more versatile tools.

 

 

 

Barber is solid.  He's perfect as a #3 RB because he plays special teams and is a solid short-yardage back.  We need to upgrade Mckissik (whom I like).  JD tries hard, but is too small to be an effective #2 back.  He can't play teams and is horrendous at pass-blocking (not his fault due to his size).  

[zCommander]

He can wear #26.

 

[Malapropismic Depository]

3 minutes ago, mhd24 said:

 

 

Barber is solid.  He's perfect as a #3 RB because he plays special teams and is a solid short-yardage back.  We need to upgrade Mckissik (whom I like).  JD tries hard, but is too small to be an effective #2 back.  He can't play teams and is horrendous at pass-blocking (not his fault due to his size).  

 

I'd like to keep the Kiss. He may have flaws, but he more than makes up for it, with his tremendous pass-catching. And if we get rid of him, who's going to be our 3rd down back on pass plays ? Our problem right now is that each of our backs is just really good at one thing, and one thing only. If any of them had more versatility, and therefore play different roles, we could get rid of others.

I'd be fine keeping Gibson, Kiss, and Barber, as long as we add a 4th back. One that will fill our greatest need at RB right now - Gibson's backup if he gets dinged.

If Gibson is out for an extended period, our running game is screwed. So either get a good 4th RB who can backup Gibson, or a RB who can play multiple roles.

[PartyPosse]

10 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

I'd like to keep the Kiss. He may have flaws, but he more than makes up for it, with his tremendous pass-catching. And if we get rid of him, who's going to be our 3rd down back on pass plays ? Our problem right now is that each of our backs is just really good at one thing, and one thing only. If any of them had more versatility, and therefore play different roles, we could get rid of others.

I'd be fine keeping Gibson, Kiss, and Barber, as long as we add a 4th back. One that will fill our greatest need at RB right now - Gibson's backup if he gets dinged.

If Gibson is out for an extended period, our running game is screwed. So either get a good 4th RB who can backup Gibson, or a RB who can play multiple roles.

Pretty sure Gibson is as versatile as they come considering he was drafted as a WR.

[KDawg]

52 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

Pretty sure Gibson is as versatile as they come considering he was drafted as a WR.

I mean don’t get it twisted. They drafted him to play running back. That was one of the traits. But yes. Gibson is ultra versatile. 
 

I really hope I’m (and others) are right about Patterson. If he manages to make the team and get carries that can take some wear off of Gibson... that’s the best thing that could have happened to us. 
 

For Gibson to be at his best for years to come they have to keep the tread on his tires down.

 

Patterson is smaller but the dude is built like a truck. 
 

I am really excited about that signing.

[PartyPosse]

8 minutes ago, KDawg said:

I mean don’t get it twisted. They drafted him to play running back. That was one of the traits. But yes. Gibson is ultra versatile. 
 

I really hope I’m (and others) are right about Patterson. If he manages to make the team and get carries that can take some wear off of Gibson... that’s the best thing that could have happened to us. 
 

For Gibson to be at his best for years to come they have to keep the tread on his tires down.

 

Patterson is smaller but the dude is built like a truck. 
 

I am really excited about that signing.

I agree. Heres hoping he’s our  Marion Barber.

[PCS]

I'll just link to this thread with that cool title  in the Draft Index thread,(last post in thread).  Cool.  Oh yeah. This young man looks like he can do some running with that football.  

[RWJ]

Some have compared him to former RB Darren Sproles.  

[Malapropismic Depository]

7 minutes ago, RWJ said:

Some have compared him to former RB Darren Sproles.  

 

How about this guy ?

(apologies that some of his highlights were against Washington, but it actually shows how good he really was, because this was back when we were great)