ntotoro Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, SoCalSkins said: Even Sunday afternoons? In LA, traffic is horrible all week. Probably worse on Saturdays since Covid but Sundays are the least amount of traffic. There is still traffic but not as bad. Perpetually. Used to be certain times you could guarantee gridlock on 95, now it's 24/7. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) The Washington Commanders have purchased 200 acres of land in Woodbridge that could be the home of their new stadium project, a $3 billion "mini-city" that would contain a number of entertainment, residential and workspace components. Renderings obtained by The Richmond Times-Dispatch show a futuristic stadium that can change colors, a translucent roof that would allow natural light while climate-controlled, and a new team headquarters. The land, near Potomac Mills off I-95, was purchased for $100 million, but sources with knowledge of the team's plans were quick to point out on Monday that the location has not been picked yet, and other potential sites remain in play - in Virginia, Maryland and D.C. A bill that will provide state support for a potential stadium is expected to pass in the coming weeks along with the state budget, formalizing Virginia's contribution to the project at an estimated $350 million. The project is modeled in part after The Battery in Atlanta, the home of the Atlanta Braves. It's anchored by the team, but that also has a number of other components to draw year-round traffic. Like The Battery, Washington's proposed Woodbridge site is far from the urban center, but the Commanders' other top options, in Loudoun County or at the current FedEx Field site, are also at a remove. New team headquarters: The Commanders are planning to move their team headquarters from its current Loudoun County site to wherever the new stadium ends up. That means training camp, offseason practices and festivities like draft night parties would all be centered at the new location. The headquarters building would be constructed with an environmentally friendly "heavy timber" construction process. Amphitheater: The facility would include an amphitheater that could seat from 15,000 to 20,000 guests, enough to host major concerts. Virginia Sen. Scott Surovell, who oversees the area the project is in, noted on Monday that Prince William County residents lag behind the other areas of metro D.C. in entertainment options, and this would bring more options to the area. The hope would also be to make the team, and its programming, more accessible to fans throughout Virginia, including Fredericksburg and the Richmond area. Retail: A nearly mile-long walkway would be the center of the game-day and year-round experience, with bars and restaurants that fans could eat and drink at. A large yard near the stadium would consist of artificial grass that can transform from a public space during the week to a parking lot on game days. Office: Office space is also expected to be a key part of the project. The team plans to have a resort-style convention center, which would be the first of its kind in the area. Tailgating and traffic: One major question mark on a project in Prince William County will be traffic, given that the segment of I-95 that runs through Occoquan is routinely one of the most backed-up sections of roadway on the East Coast. Surovell noted that there has long been interest in extending Metro service to Potomac Mills, but so far the regional authorities have been lukewarm, at best, to the idea. Sources with knowledge of the stadium design said there would be ample parking built into the Commanders' project, with additional entrance and exit lanes built into I-95 and the I-95 Express Lanes. It is considered extremely unlikely that a Metro expansion would happen before the stadium's opening date. Commanders officials have continued to press forward towards a potential 2027 stadium opening. The Buffalo Bills recently reached a deal on a new stadium project that is expected to open in 2026, leaving open the possibility that Washington could hit its mark if the financing and logistics were worked out in the coming year. The purchase of the land for $100 million is a statement of support for the Woodbridge site, but the team has also considered a site in Loudoun County, on the new Silver Line Metro extension. A third potential site, in Dumfries, remains under consideration but has a number of logistical hurdles. The team could also opt to stay at its current site in Landover, Md., where the government has pledged $400 million in support to a redesigned stadium and business district. The site long considered the fan favorite, where RFK Stadium sits in downtown D.C., remains unlikely given the federal government control of the land. If the project lands in Woodbridge, it would immediately become one of the biggest development projects in state history. At $3 billion, it would be one of the most expensive stadium complexes in American sports, though far from the record $5 billion that was spent on SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, Calif. It's the roof and exterior that would be the centerpiece of the design, visible from I-95 and able to transform with the time and event. The team's drawings anticipate a stadium of about 60,000 seats, designed to provide a better experience for a smaller number of fans, instead of catering to a large number, as was the original vision at FedEx Field. mphillips@timesdispatch.com Edited May 23, 2022 by Skinsinparadise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purbeast Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, FLSkinz83 said: So why would they purchase land in VA, but sill be looking at DC and MD? Because Redskins? Duh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 hours ago, SoCalSkins said: They made it very less attractive for out of town fans with that location. So maybe some more empty seats instead of opposing fans? I disagree. It is closer to Dulles and National both. It is also way closer to Richmond. 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: Michael Phillips who has been covering this for the Richmond Times according to Grant Paulsen text'd him and he thinks Woodbridge is still in the lead and Phillips is supposedly writing something up on this right now. Yeah if you pick the absolute worst way to get there from Ashburn. You could get there in under an hour on 234. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: The Washington Commanders have purchased 200 acres of land in Woodbridge that could be the home of their new stadium project, a $3 billion "mini-city" that would contain a number of entertainment, residential and workspace components. Renderings obtained by The Richmond Times-Dispatch show a futuristic stadium that can change colors, a translucent roof that would allow natural light while climate-controlled, and a new team headquarters. The land, near Potomac Mills off I-95, was purchased for $100 million, but sources with knowledge of the team's plans were quick to point out on Monday that the location has not been picked yet, and other potential sites remain in play - in Virginia, Maryland and D.C. A bill that will provide state support for a potential stadium is expected to pass in the coming weeks along with the state budget, formalizing Virginia's contribution to the project at an estimated $350 million. The project is modeled in part after The Battery in Atlanta, the home of the Atlanta Braves. It's anchored by the team, but that also has a number of other components to draw year-round traffic. Like The Battery, Washington's proposed Woodbridge site is far from the urban center, but the Commanders' other top options, in Loudoun County or at the current FedEx Field site, are also at a remove. New team headquarters: The Commanders are planning to move their team headquarters from its current Loudoun County site to wherever the new stadium ends up. That means training camp, offseason practices and festivities like draft night parties would all be centered at the new location. The headquarters building would be constructed with an environmentally friendly "heavy timber" construction process. Amphitheater: The facility would include an amphitheater that could seat from 15,000 to 20,000 guests, enough to host major concerts. Virginia Sen. Scott Surovell, who oversees the area the project is in, noted on Monday that Prince William County residents lag behind the other areas of metro D.C. in entertainment options, and this would bring more options to the area. The hope would also be to make the team, and its programming, more accessible to fans throughout Virginia, including Fredericksburg and the Richmond area. Retail: A nearly mile-long walkway would be the center of the game-day and year-round experience, with bars and restaurants that fans could eat and drink at. A large yard near the stadium would consist of artificial grass that can transform from a public space during the week to a parking lot on game days. Office: Office space is also expected to be a key part of the project. The team plans to have a resort-style convention center, which would be the first of its kind in the area. Tailgating and traffic: One major question mark on a project in Prince William County will be traffic, given that the segment of I-95 that runs through Occoquan is routinely one of the most backed-up sections of roadway on the East Coast. Surovell noted that there has long been interest in extending Metro service to Potomac Mills, but so far the regional authorities have been lukewarm, at best, to the idea. Sources with knowledge of the stadium design said there would be ample parking built into the Commanders' project, with additional entrance and exit lanes built into I-95 and the I-95 Express Lanes. It is considered extremely unlikely that a Metro expansion would happen before the stadium's opening date. Commanders officials have continued to press forward towards a potential 2027 stadium opening. The Buffalo Bills recently reached a deal on a new stadium project that is expected to open in 2026, leaving open the possibility that Washington could hit its mark if the financing and logistics were worked out in the coming year. The purchase of the land for $100 million is a statement of support for the Woodbridge site, but the team has also considered a site in Loudoun County, on the new Silver Line Metro extension. A third potential site, in Dumfries, remains under consideration but has a number of logistical hurdles. The team could also opt to stay at its current site in Landover, Md., where the government has pledged $400 million in support to a redesigned stadium and business district. The site long considered the fan favorite, where RFK Stadium sits in downtown D.C., remains unlikely given the federal government control of the land. If the project lands in Woodbridge, it would immediately become one of the biggest development projects in state history. At $3 billion, it would be one of the most expensive stadium complexes in American sports, though far from the record $5 billion that was spent on SoFi Stadium in Inglewood, Calif. It's the roof and exterior that would be the centerpiece of the design, visible from I-95 and able to transform with the time and event. The team's drawings anticipate a stadium of about 60,000 seats, designed to provide a better experience for a smaller number of fans, instead of catering to a large number, as was the original vision at FedEx Field. mphillips@timesdispatch.com Notice the VA flag in those renderings. This looks like a done deal to me. Just saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Horrible location? Check. Looks like a condom? Check. Traffic nightmare? Check. Dan Snyder Special! The reason they like it? Its 1 1/2 hours from Richmond, so they think they will get a lot of fans making that drive. Why build an entire campus around the stadium if theres no reason for anyone to come visit from out of town? If the stadium is in DC, people can make a weekend of it. If its Ashburn/Dulles, its right by the airport with metro access, super easy and people can still visit DC easily. Woodbridge? Nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, clskinsfan said: Notice the VA flag in those renderings. This looks like a done deal to me. Just saying. Yeah i would guess the same. I don't buy they just spent $100 million on a specific piece of land for no reason. At a minimum it indicates that this is the favorite destination. The idea that Dan is just going to land somewhere else and resell the land he just bought for a quick profit hits me far fetched. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I like how they're saying...OH ITS WOODBRIDGE NOT DUMFRIES!!! Like it's exponentially better. Man, I'm all in on Woodbridge now. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: I disagree. It is closer to Dulles and National both. It is also way closer to Richmond. Yeah, if they do it right it could be pretty cool for an out of town trip. I usually go to one away game a year and have a feel for many other stadium experiences. If I were coming in for a game I’d fly to National and stay in either DC or Arlington. Do all the Washington tourist/nightlife stuff. Then Uber down super early for a 1:00 game, like 9am so you don’t hit traffic as hard. If they have shopping and restaurants like they’ve planned you can occupy your time until the tailgating starts. After the game, you’d have bars to watch the 4:00 games and then Uber back as stadium traffic died down. Reminds me a little of the Cardinals game when we stayed in Scottsdale. Ended up hanging with Spencer Long’s family before the game. While I’m saying it would be cool for a one time out of towner, it would really suck for a local season ticket holder. Edited May 23, 2022 by Ball Security 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD2 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I have zero faith in this organization doing anything right, but I have to admit those renderings in the Michael Phillips tweet are pretty sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain James Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Dang. Gonna be even more of a trek for us further North (PA/MD border). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Based on this, looks like they see Wentz here long term, ditto Curtis Samuel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Captain James said: Dang. Gonna be even more of a trek for us further North (PA/MD border). Only a trek, if you actually decide to willfully part with hundreds/thousands of dollars for the pleasure of watching Dan's Commodes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) **** off with the project plan mockups. If you want it to look realistic, put a bunch of Eagles fans in there. Edited May 23, 2022 by Spaceman Spiff 2 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: **** off with the project plan mockups. If you want it to look realistic, put a bunch of Eagles fans in there. Someone needs to photoshop it that way, I bet it would be a killer retweet visual on twitter that would go viral. 😀 Edited May 23, 2022 by Skinsinparadise 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Zim489 said: As a MD fan I selfishly want it kept in Maryland. I can stomach going to Fall Church, Arlington, or Old town. At least they are in the beltway. Dunfries is a worst possible situation. Why would anyone my age (32) or younger in MD ever be a skins fan? because it isn’t 1965 anymore and you don’t have to root for a team based on how close you live to them? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: **** off with the project plan mockups. If you want it to look realistic, put a bunch of Eagles fans in there. OK. This literally made me laugh out loud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFK Lives Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 100 million for the land? So only about 99,999,950.00 more than he spent on the rebrand. shrewd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Dan was quick to get this one out after the owners voting on him hit the internet. He didn't even retire a jersey or celebrate Doug Williams or Sean Taylor. Gotta give him credit! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Is that tailgateing parking lot... grass Head groundskeeper bout to merc sombody. Parking lot outlines is where he draws the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFK Lives Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I know I bring this up all the time but here again is proof that the fanbase is dead. Think about how many pages this thread would be if it was 10 to 15 years ago. Shoot, even 5 years ago this would be big news and the server would be crashing. The Junks were talking about it this morning and the polls reflect it. So, Dan, if he remains in power, is buying the tripe that if he builds a new stadium in a new location that this will all turn around and people from the surrounding counties in Richmond, where I live, will make the trek and be a big part of his reviving the fanbase. Meanwhile, you got 4 more years of opposing fans filling up FedEx field. No change of location is going to shake the stench of Snyder. 1 minute ago, FootballZombie said: Is that tailgateing parking lot... grass Head groundskeeper bout to merc sombody. Parking lot outlines is where he draws the line. Fans will be tearing knees right and left if it's like FedEx. Maybe that office space includes an Orthopedics place Snyder owns stock in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, SoCalSkins said: Even Sunday afternoons? In LA, traffic is horrible all week. Probably worse on Saturdays since Covid but Sundays are the least amount of traffic. There is still traffic but not as bad. I lived in Woodbridge 20 years ago and briefly in the San Fernando Valley about a decade before that. There's no comparison. The traffic from the Beltway down to Woodbridge was a nightmare seven days a week, and that was two decades ago. It's way worse now. I know off-hour traffic in LA is worse now, but I've never experienced anything like I-95 in Northern Virginia. It's like taking all the traffic in the Valley and condensing it into a third the space 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Standig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullnelson9999 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 hours ago, FLSkinz83 said: about 2.5 hours? Dumfries seems like it's somewhere inbetween? It's nowhere close to being in between. It's just in the same general direction. A move to Richmond would essentially be a whole relocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 hours ago, FLSkinz83 said: So why would they purchase land in VA, but sill be looking at DC and MD? Because you want to water down your negotiating power. Dan is trying to play VA off DC and MD to get a sweeter deal. Mind you, I don't know that you can do that when all three look at that land purchase and say, "Whelp" the Redskins are stuck. In fact, to a degree, Virginia can now feel comfortable in lowering their bid because Snyder has basically showed his cards. Even Dan should know you can't bluff after you show your cards. Although apparently... Dan doesn't know this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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