Huffpo: Explosive UFO Report In NYT Mentions 'Off-World Vehicles Not Made On This Earth'

[Gurgeh]

Putting the tinfoil hat on... If crossing interstellar distances is phenomenally difficult and expensive, you'd have to ask why the aliens would be here. I would guess because intelligent life is so rare that any they come across are worth studying. "They" might not even be here, perhaps it's just their AIs who are reporting back what they find, as machines would survive the travel times better than living creatures.

 

So in short, we might be witnessing the robot camera team of an alien David Attenborough.

 

[China]

Crashed UFO recovered by the US military 'distorted space and time,' leaving one investigator 'nauseous and disoriented' when he went in and discovered it was much larger inside than out, attorney for whistleblowers reveals

 

A crashed UFO recovered by the US military 'distorted space-time' and was 'bigger on the inside', claims a top attorney involved in bringing UFO whistleblowers to Congress.

 

Daniel Sheehan says he was told the mind-boggling tale by a whistleblower who allegedly took part in an illegally-undisclosed program retrieving crashed non-human spacecraft – and who has now briefed Senate Intelligence Committee staff.

 

The lawyer's story is the latest in a series of stunning claims this week of UFOs in the government's hands, which began on Monday with an on-camera interview of former senior Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch alleging that the US government possesses multiple crashed 'non-human' craft. 

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

Picture of the UFO that is bigger on the inside and distorts space-time:

 

[PokerPacker]

I have nothing to add.  I just wanted to say that all the disappointing "This time it's real!!!" UFO reports has made me come up with the term "Boy who cried 'Wolf 359'".  Carry on.

[Destino]

On 6/10/2023 at 9:07 AM, Gurgeh said:

Putting the tinfoil hat on... If crossing interstellar distances is phenomenally difficult and expensive, you'd have to ask why the aliens would be here. I would guess because intelligent life is so rare that any they come across are worth studying. "They" might not even be here, perhaps it's just their AIs who are reporting back what they find, as machines would survive the travel times better than living creatures.

 

So in short, we might be witnessing the robot camera team of an alien David Attenborough.

 

what if it’s not expensive, what if the tech required is so common that it’s  featured on their civilization’s version of a mid size sedan.  What if the UFOs are just tourists on a road trip coming to gawk at the wild life.  
 

you know how every now and then some dumb ass tourist gets out of their car and tries to take a picture with a bear? The ones we spot are alien versions of those idiots.  

[Gurgeh]

3 hours ago, Destino said:

what if it’s not expensive, what if the tech required is so common that it’s  featured on their civilization’s version of a mid size sedan.  What if the UFOs are just tourists on a road trip coming to gawk at the wild life.  
 

you know how every now and then some dumb ass tourist gets out of their car and tries to take a picture with a bear? The ones we spot are alien versions of those idiots.  

 

Teaser | Hitchhikers | Fandom

 

Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They cruise around looking for planets that haven't made interstellar contact yet and buzz them, meaning that they find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor unsuspecting soul whom no one's going to believe and then strut up and down in front of him wearing silly antennas on their head and making beep beep noises.

[Renegade7]

Pretty sure we're like Reality TV to them...

 

"Yo, that 2020 season was craaaazy..."

[Renegade7]

6 hours ago, PokerPacker said:

I have nothing to add.  I just wanted to say that all the disappointing "This time it's real!!!" UFO reports has made me come up with the term "Boy who cried 'Wolf 359'".  Carry on.

 

There's probably some debate up there right now boiling down to "their technological achievements are clearly on the trajectory for worthiness" vs "another Florida man article"..

 

[mistertim]

On 6/10/2023 at 9:07 AM, Gurgeh said:

Putting the tinfoil hat on... If crossing interstellar distances is phenomenally difficult and expensive, you'd have to ask why the aliens would be here. I would guess because intelligent life is so rare that any they come across are worth studying. "They" might not even be here, perhaps it's just their AIs who are reporting back what they find, as machines would survive the travel times better than living creatures.

 

So in short, we might be witnessing the robot camera team of an alien David Attenborough.

 

 

Assuming that our current understanding of C as well as spacetime on very large scales holds true (GR), then aliens are exceedingly unlikely to even be aware of our existence. We've had radio for about 120 years now, which means the only aliens who would be privy to the fact that there's a technologically advanced civilization here are those within 120 light years of our planet. Which is, cosmologically speaking, an almost inconceivably short distance.

 

Though it's always possible that they're aware that there's a planet with life on it and might be interested in visiting to study that in general. But it's still a super iffy endeavor considering the times involved, especially if they're hoping intelligent life will have evolved by the time they get here. It would be amazingly easy to over or undershoot...especially considering the likely distances involved and that we've only been technologically advanced for a tiny fraction of a blip of our history.

 

I still think something like Von Neumann replicators are way more likely than actual biological aliens. Though to be honest, I'd be shocked if any aliens with interstellar capabilities were still biologically based. IMO they probably would have converted to a purely digital form a long time ago. That could make the distances of interstellar travel mostly moot, as you could simply slow down processing speed so 1,000 years passes in the blink of an eye. It also gets rid of the whole "bags of meat are super fragile and don't do well in space" issue.

[Renegade7]

Combining Cryo-Hibernation and figuring out Warp Drive wouldn't be that far fetched a possibility for me to see possible with enough time to figure it out.

 

There are some that think we're jus too early, while I agree that's why there seems to be little to no one out there, I'm not buying we're alone or no one knows we're here.

 

 

[FrFan]

[Renegade7]

[PokerPacker]

1 hour ago, Renegade7 said:

-Sherlock Holmes
    - Mr. Spock
        - Michael Scott

[Spaceman Spiff]

 

 

From my front yard last night when I took the dog for a walk.  

[The Evil Genius]

Legendary.

 

 

[Xameil]

On 6/12/2023 at 2:45 AM, PokerPacker said:

-Sherlock Holmes
    - Mr. Spock
        - Michael Scott

And as the pic above Spock...dont forget him in that list

[China]

Senator trying to force Uncle Sam to share everything it knows about UFOs

 

US Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has been pulling some strings to force the government to spill what it knows about UFOs.

 

With the frenzy around "unidentified anomalous/aerial phenomena" – the slightly less hysterical term – reaching unusual heights of late, the New York senator aims to introduce an amendment to the annual defense policy bill that would form a commission with authority to declassify government docs on UAPs, alien spaceships or unknown materials – if such things exist.

 

The legislation from Schumer, the Democrat senator who also has a few ideas on AI regulation, has bipartisan support from the likes of Republicans Mike Rounds (South Dakota) and Marco Rubio (Florida) who has worked to get reports on unidentified phenomena published before.

 

The House is likely to back it too, the New York Times reports, with a provision [PDF] in its version of the defense bill asking for the "declassification of certain reports of unidentified aerial phenomena."

 

Schumer's amendment would give government agencies 300 days to get their records on UAPs in order to then provide them to the review board.

 

Click on the link for the full article

[China]

Extraterrestrial 'technical supremacy' is a top concern, Pentagon UFO investigator says

 

The scientist and military intelligence officer leading the Pentagon's task force for unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs) -- which the public calls UFOs -- says being caught off guard by "intelligent or extraterrestrial technical supremacy" remains a top concern as investigators analyze more than 800 cases of mysterious sightings reported by U.S. military personnel dating back decades.

 

"Data and science has to guide where you go, and we will follow the data," Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick said last month, in an exclusive first interview after his appointment to the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO.

 

Congress established the office last year to coordinate efforts across federal agencies to "detect, identify and attribute" mysterious objects of interest in the air, in outer space and underwater, with special focus on mitigating potential threats to military operations and national security.

 

"The most common misconception is that [the possible phenomena] are all the same thing and they're all extraterrestrial, and neither of those are true," Kirkpatrick said.

 

Click on the link for the full article

[China]

Congressman Says He Saw 'Top Secret' UFO Info on Extraterrestrial Crafts

 

Representative Tim Burchett, a Tennessee Republican, claimed on Friday to have seen "top secret" information about extraterrestrial crafts.

 

Burchett has been among the most vocal members of Congress on the topic of UFOs, UAPs, and the disclosure of government information surrounding them. In June, the Tennessee lawmaker went so far as to accuse the government of covering up the infamous 1947 incident in Roswell, New Mexico, which urban legends claim involved alien spacecrafts crashing in the desert. He has also stated in the past that he believes the government has retrieved extraterrestrial crafts, and even alien beings, from UFO crash sites.

 

Meanwhile, a majority of U.S. eligible voters believe the government knows more about UFOs than the public, according to new polling exclusively conducted for Newsweek. The poll, carried out by Redfield & Wilton Strategies that was conducted on July 6 and surveyed 1,500 people, found 57 percent of respondents believed that the government has more information about UFOs and alien life than it publicly shared. In addition, 21 percent said they did not think this was the case, while 22 percent said they did not know.

 

Click on the link for the full article

[mistertim]

On 7/20/2023 at 2:27 PM, China said:

Extraterrestrial 'technical supremacy' is a top concern, Pentagon UFO investigator says

 

The scientist and military intelligence officer leading the Pentagon's task force for unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs) -- which the public calls UFOs -- says being caught off guard by "intelligent or extraterrestrial technical supremacy" remains a top concern as investigators analyze more than 800 cases of mysterious sightings reported by U.S. military personnel dating back decades.

 

"Data and science has to guide where you go, and we will follow the data," Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick said last month, in an exclusive first interview after his appointment to the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO.

 

Congress established the office last year to coordinate efforts across federal agencies to "detect, identify and attribute" mysterious objects of interest in the air, in outer space and underwater, with special focus on mitigating potential threats to military operations and national security.

 

"The most common misconception is that [the possible phenomena] are all the same thing and they're all extraterrestrial, and neither of those are true," Kirkpatrick said.

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

I mean...we can be concerned about it, but we also need to realize that there's probably next to nothing we can actually do about it. Any civilization advanced enough to have mastered interstellar travel will be many orders of magnitude more advanced than us. We probably wouldn't even be able to understand how their weapons (or defenses) work, let alone how to stop them.

 

It would be like a group of Cro-Magnons trying to use spears and rocks against the modern US military.

 

Reminds me of the movie Arrival, where some militaries around the world decided to shoot missiles at the ships. Seriously? These beings can literally manipulate gravity on a whim and you think some podunk chemical propelled explosive is going to do anything?

Edited July 23, 2023 by mistertim

[Renegade7]

I'd say the why is still important, no matter how good or bad the truth is.

 

In the extremely low odds game of how many inhabitanted planets also have intelligent life, why us? 

 

The idea we'll destroy the planet is moot, and we won't in the context of how resilient life is...and even if we causing a mass extinction, why fly all the way over here to stop us in the context of how many times the planet has nearly wiped out previous life without us in the form of previous mass extinctions.

 

Like, bad as we are, we'd like the 6th mass extinction event...Earth will be fine without us. Then something else will happen, so of all the possible planets this happening on, why wipe us out to protect one of how knows how many others are out there?

 

Nah, what's entirely possible is we don't spread as a potential threat in context to how dangerous we are to each other we could be to them.  So they may be watching us with drones and without even achieving FTL travel.  It's all about keeping tabs on us in event they'd then have to act (preferably before we in the context of distance and gap in time for relayed information us getting FTL ourselves).

 

 

Edited July 24, 2023 by Renegade7

[China]

1 hour ago, mistertim said:

 

I mean...we can be concerned about it, but we also need to realize that there's probably next to nothing we can actually do about it. Any civilization advanced enough to have mastered interstellar travel will be many orders of magnitude more advanced than us. We probably wouldn't even be able to understand how their weapons (or defenses) work, let alone how to stop them.

 

It would be like a group of Cro-Magnons trying to use spears and rocks against the modern US military.

 

Reminds me of the movie Arrival, where some militaries around the world decided to shoot missiles at the ships. Seriously? These beings can literally manipulate gravity on a whim and you think some podunk chemical propelled explosive is going to do anything?

 

[NickyJ]

16 hours ago, mistertim said:

I mean...we can be concerned about it, but we also need to realize that there's probably next to nothing we can actually do about it. Any civilization advanced enough to have mastered interstellar travel will be many orders of magnitude more advanced than us. We probably wouldn't even be able to understand how their weapons (or defenses) work, let alone how to stop them.

 

It would be like a group of Cro-Magnons trying to use spears and rocks against the modern US military.

 

Reminds me of the movie Arrival, where some militaries around the world decided to shoot missiles at the ships. Seriously? These beings can literally manipulate gravity on a whim and you think some podunk chemical propelled explosive is going to do anything?

There is something we can do. We can get conquered by the aliens, and subjugated for a few hundred years. Become their foot soldiers, then be given technology to be more efficient soldiers. Eventually, there will come a time when we can travel to their planet just as easily as they can travel to ours. And when in Rome, do as the Visigoths do.

[Bang]

What if they are benign and come to us truly as explorers and trying to meet new intelligent life?

We'd blow it. We're not benign by any stretch, we don't even like each other.
So they'd have a choice.. show us their weapons or split.

~Bang

[Renegade7]

5 hours ago, Bang said:

What if they are benign and come to us truly as explorers and trying to meet new intelligent life?

We'd blow it. We're not benign by any stretch, we don't even like each other.
So they'd have a choice.. show us their weapons or split.

~Bang

 

Every fiber in my body is telling me they don't want to talk to us yet because of what we do to each other.  Even trying to explain we aren't all like that feels brutal hearing our excuses outloud.

[Jabbyrwock]

6 hours ago, Bang said:

What if they are benign and come to us truly as explorers and trying to meet new intelligent life?

We'd blow it. We're not benign by any stretch,

 

Were not that great on the intelligent part either.

 

22 hours ago, mistertim said:

These beings can literally manipulate gravity on a whim and you think some podunk chemical propelled explosive is going to do anything?

 

Yea...but what if we enhance the weapon with some Randy Quaid?