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Pay Attention Knuckleheads

 

 

Has your team support wained due to ownership or can you see past it?  

229 members have voted

  1. 1. Will you attend a game and support the team while Dan Snyder is the owner of the team, regardless of success?

    • Yes
      47
    • No
      106
    • I would start attending games if Dan was no longer the owner of the team.
      77

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MonkFan8

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Turner's offense is really not impressing me so far. Is there a worse 1st down play in the NFL than his incessant motion across the face of the QB followed up with an incredibly risky lateral screen pass? That play either ends up gaining zero yards or worse. 

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14 minutes ago, MonkFan8 said:

Turner's offense is really not impressing me so far. Is there a worse 1st down play in the NFL than his incessant motion across the face of the QB followed up with an incredibly risky lateral screen pass? That play either ends up gaining zero yards or worse. 


Better than Gruden. Course the players all suck.

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1 minute ago, method man said:

I wonder if Ron makes a play for Dimitroff to be GM. If so, I don't know how I would feel about it. I'd rather roll with Kyle


Ha, was actually just thinking it’s a shame we got Del Rio in the offseason because Quinn is available. He might get another HC opportunity though. 

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8 hours ago, Burgold said:

So, how do you assign responsibility for our on-field ineptitude. How much on Bruce Allen and the front office, how much on the players, and how much on the coaches?

 

I think it’s 50% Front Office

30% players

20% coaching/play calling 

 

94.2%  Snyder/Allen/Rivera being a meanie-boots to poor Dwayne.

2.1%  Dwayne Haskins

3.7%  Scott Turner

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57 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said:


Ha, was actually just thinking it’s a shame we got Del Rio in the offseason because Quinn is available. He might get another HC opportunity though. 

 

meh not sure he is anything special as a DC. Gus Bradley and others rode that DC gig as well

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3 minutes ago, method man said:

 

meh not sure he is anything special as a DC. Gus Bradley and others rode that DC gig as well

 

I'm fine with JDR. He's a proven DC, and we have **** at safety, LB, this team is just not good. No coach is going to turn it around immediately.

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17 hours ago, Springfield said:


Better than Gruden. Course the players all suck.

 

If there's one thing Gruden was good at, it was scheming up passing offense.  He has the track record to back it up. Devising a competent run game was just never his strong suit.  I'd take Gruden as pure OC over Turner any day of the week.  

 

Turner on the other hand has no track record of success.  Yes, these players aren't good.  But this offense is terrible and the Panther offense was terrible when he ran it at the end of last season.  He really should not have this job on the merit.  There’s no evidence he's up for this. It's all about who you know.

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I dont get it.  People on this board are smart know the game and know the team and skill we have.  You all must know this team needed a rebuild and start from scratch.  Rivera himself said its a year to evaluate (which i read as were gonna suck but see who we have that will be here in the future).  Yet every one is shocked and pissed that the team is 1-4.  Have patience lets see what the guy can do.  If he didnt have control you think snyder would have let him bench Haskins?  Let the guy do the job and build the team he wants in his vision.

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20 minutes ago, boston skins fan said:

I dont get it.  People on this board are smart know the game and know the team and skill we have.  You all must know this team needed a rebuild and start from scratch.  Rivera himself said its a year to evaluate (which i read as were gonna suck but see who we have that will be here in the future).  Yet every one is shocked and pissed that the team is 1-4.  Have patience lets see what the guy can do.  If he didnt have control you think snyder would have let him bench Haskins?  Let the guy do the job and build the team he wants in his vision.

 

The problem with Rivera has been all the bizarre decisions and contradictions he's made already. It's not the record so much as just the absolutely strange, head-scratching nonsense. One week we're all in on Dwayne and going to stick with him. Two weeks later, he's basically done completely. One week we're saving timeouts because of "fear of injury" and developing the team. A couple weeks later, we're calling those timeouts and making changes because we're "trying to compete" for the division, lol. Rivera's pressers are simply bizarre at times. He inspires no confidence with me based on what he says and how he says it. Keeping Alex in the game yesterday was another example of the strangeness. Allen was cleared to come back, and yet they kept Alex out there getting DESTROYED during one of the worst NFL offensive performances in NFL history. I don't understand it. Yes, it's a crazy year with the pandemic, yes, Rivera has FAR more important and life-changing things to worry about, and I wish him the absolute best, but ... so far, he is an absolute bust, and not just because of the record. I could easily stomach the 1-4 record at this point if I felt like our leader had a great, clear plan, but ... I don't know ... with each passing week, he seems more and more "off" to me. 

 

So far, it's the same thing it's always been under Snyder. A guy with a solid reputation and resume comes here and ... everything turns to ****. 

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On 10/11/2020 at 11:58 AM, hail2skins said:

Why can't both be done simultaneously?  I can understand if a team is 2-7 at midseason, but not this early in the campaign when your team is at least still within shouting distance with over 6 minutes left.  You couldn't make the assessment that this was a wasted season, particularly after this team clawed back from the 17-0 deficit in the opener to beat the Eagles.

 

Well, unless all your young/developmental players happen to also be your current best players, it's tough to both put the best team on the field AND develop young players for the future. 

 

My use of "wasted season" is probably a little harsh. I guess more accurately this was a year that we had obvious and glaring holes and would very likely be a double-digit loss season. That being the case, I always prefer a team (not the players, but the decision-makers) be pragmatic about what they are and make decisions accordingly. Hoping beyond hope that this team wins a bunch of games against any logic is some of the thinking that's been pervasive for 20 years of Snyder's ownership. It's a primary reason why this team hasn't won more than 10 games in that same time period. 

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On 10/13/2020 at 10:42 AM, Skinsinparadise said:

love this guy

 

 

 

Those don't sound like ways to make a better gameday experience so much as they sound like ways to make more money in house.

 

My last trip to an NFL game was Pittsburgh for a bachelor party. One of the best parts about that stadium was the ease of access to the stadium. We didn't have to plan our morning around getting to the stadium. And when the game was over, it took us 15 minutes to walk out of the stadium, across the street to the casino.

 

Same thing in Seattle. Leave the stadium and immediately enter downtown Seattle for drinks/food.

 

Places like Fedex and the Meadowlands, upon arriving to the area and leaving it there is jack all to do except sit in traffic.

 

The gameday experience will never change dramatically because of stadium location. You can hope to make the inside better but if you can't even attract fans to begin with, whats the point?

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6 minutes ago, justice98 said:

I think we're perilously close to this organization getting the Elway/Eli Manning treatment from a top QB. 

Cam Newton took a year in New England, and Rivera will add to the offense next draft/FA with Newton coming on. 

 

Alex Smith will be released at the end of the season. Plenty of cap space. 

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On 10/11/2020 at 11:16 PM, Riggo#44 said:

 

I'm fine with JDR. He's a proven DC, and we have **** at safety, LB, this team is just not good. No coach is going to turn it around immediately.

 

I'm fine with JDR as well.  He has a track record as a DC that gives me faith.  Give him the pieces, he'll do the job.  Turner has no track record of doing anything, and Rivera's is spotty, IMO. 

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https://www.google.com/maps/@38.7754683,-76.9886627,14.98z

 

I think this would be a good location. 1.5 miles from national harbor and MGM Casino. If you could make a safe walkway between the two you could have a really great location for gamedays to really attract more than the diehards. Lets face it, you need to give people more incentive to go see the team than just the team itself.

 

 

 

 

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justice98

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9 minutes ago, Silvernon said:

Cam Newton took a year in New England, and Rivera will add to the offense next draft/FA with Newton coming on. 

 

Alex Smith will be released at the end of the season. Plenty of cap space. 

 

Well, we can't really assume Newton doesn't stay in NE. They won't have a QB either, nor will they probably get one of the top guys in the draft.  I'm skeptical Belichick stills wants to hand things over to Stidham. They're still gonna need a bridge QB to buy time.  I'm not sold that if it came down to Rivera and Belichick for Newton that Belichick won't win that.

 

But the other thing is, we had plenty of cap space this year and Rivera added Logan Thomas and JD McKissic.  They took one shot at Cooper, didn't get him and said "screw it". 

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Well, we can't really assume Newton doesn't stay in NE. They won't have a QB either, nor will they probably get one of the top guys in the draft.  I'm skeptical Belichick stills wants to hand things over to Stidham. 

 

But the other thing is, we had plenty of cap space this year and Rivera added Logan Thomas and JD McKissic.  They took one shot at Cooper, didn't get him and said "screw it". 

I thought we tried to get Austin Hooper also.

 

https://www.profootballrumors.com/austin-hooper

 

I think our biggest problem attracting FA's isn't the money we tend to offer, but the opportunity to win. When someone choses the Browns over you, and rightfully, you're in a bad place.

 

“It really came down to Cleveland and Washington. At the end, I chose to be a Brown,” Hooper said during a Sirius XM Radio interview

 

 

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