visionary Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Renegade7 said: CSPAN looks like only station still airing the press conference, I'm furious so many of the news stations either arent showing it at all or stopped while folks were talking for pundit comment. The people doing this are saying what they are going to do, hold your opinions until they are ****ing done talking. He seems to be mostly attacking people and the media, from what I could make out of his incoherent ramblings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: CSPAN looks like only station still airing the press conference, I'm furious so many of the news stations either arent showing it at all or stopped while folks were talking for pundit comment. The people doing this are saying what they are going to do, hold your opinions until they are ****ing done talking. Trump has been going on about the stock market and Democrats for like the past 5 minutes. Sure show the career people but there's little value in hearing Trump rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renegade7 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, visionary said: He seems to be mostly attacking people and the media, from what I could make out of his incoherent ramblings. They CNN and MSNBC cut off health officials, he did answer whether he was going to have plans for quarantining cities and of schools should prepare to close, he said that's on the table but hoping against it. Hes trying to play this down. But I caught his shot at Pelosi and NYT. 4 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Trump has been going on about the stock market and Democrats for like the past 5 minutes. Sure show the career people but there's little value in hearing Trump rant. Hes touched other things like I mentioned to @visionary, but hes bringing it back or someone else is, I expected him to do that, but he jus made clear to look at this more like the flu. What's the point of getting opinions in what hes going to do or think, hes on tv right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) Edited February 27, 2020 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I have no doubt this multi-agency response was initiated by the White House ONLY after the stock market tanked. Because Donald Trump's entire world view is based on money. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 this is equal parts fascinating, hilarious, and depressing. how great could this country ever have been if it all it took to destroy it was donald ****ing trump? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Hes trying way to hard to sell possibility this wont be around next year while comparing it to the flu. Devoting resources is one thing, but outside banning folks from coming in the country, he hoping this goes away and leaving cards on the table that would be disruptive. Too much reassurance, not enough pragmatism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: he got asked about that and said ebola vaporizes you and the corona virus is the flu so the situation is completely different. Edited February 27, 2020 by CousinsCowgirl84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Trump definitely knows what he's talking about! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I am waiting to see more from South Korea, Japan and Italy before I panic. I just don't trust China or Iran to be open, honest governments about public health crises... and those are at the leading edge now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) COVID-19 won't wipe us all out, but COVFEFE-20 might. Edited February 27, 2020 by Bacon 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Fergasun said: I am waiting to see more from South Korea, Japan and Italy before I panic. I just don't trust China or Iran to be open, honest governments about public health crises... and those are at the leading edge now. Iran in particular hid the extent of the spread and enabled the spread to other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, twa said: Iran in particular hid the extent of the spread and enabled the spread to other countries. Time to update the List Of Expertise!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: Time to update the List Of Expertise!! How Iran’s coronavirus death toll came to be the highest behind only China https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/explained/article/3052143/coronavirus-how-irans-death-toll-came-be-highest-behind-only https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/484524-pompeo-accuses-china-and-iran-of-hiding-coronavirus-outbreak https://www.timesofisrael.com/pompeo-says-iran-must-tell-the-truth-on-spread-of-coronavirus/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 It’s no longer contained in the USA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 @bcl05 @bearrock what are your thoughts on cdc recommendation to send infected hospital staff home for furlough for 14 days? what do you do when it rips through the hospital and you have no staff? i suggest: **** the cdc’s recommendation didn’t go over well i liked idea of telescreen, send to centralized tent test center. shut down the hospital to walk ins. Funnel to central location keep medical workers from getting unnecessarily sick in hospitals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Fergasun said: I am waiting to see more from South Korea, Japan and Italy before I panic. I just don't trust China or Iran to be open, honest governments about public health crises... and those are at the leading edge now. Yeah, but they are far more likely to be downplaying the severity of the outbreak if they are lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 42 minutes ago, tshile said: @bcl05 @bearrock what are your thoughts on cdc recommendation to send infected hospital staff home for furlough for 14 days? what do you do when it rips through the hospital and you have no staff? i suggest: **** the cdc’s recommendation didn’t go over well i liked idea of telescreen, send to centralized tent test center. shut down the hospital to walk ins. Funnel to central location keep medical workers from getting unnecessarily sick in hospitals Yeah, that's a tough one. I mean right now where the total infection is low enough in the US that furlough is unlikely to totally incapacitate a hospital, I can see that making sense. But like you said, if the alternative is to shut the hospital down, I think you have to find a way to work around. I mean the chances of transmission is pretty low if the provider is in a hazmat suit right? So new information seems to be that mortality rate is about double the flu for the younger population and starts ramping up at 60 and above? That feels like good news, although I don't really know enough to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 China lied to everyone, but at least they were able to test properly. Iran has the unique double whammy of being liars who also can't test properly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, bearrock said: I mean the chances of transmission is pretty low if the provider is in a hazmat suit right? Yeah but not everyone’s wearing one. If one cleaning staff gets it they’ll walk around for two weeks spreading it to patients and other staff. When the reality is that the end prescription is to go home and self quarantine and call if it gets worse, why not stop these people from going into the hospital in the first place we’re currently trying to figure out what’s bette me - quarantine in the master or the basement. I’m voting basement 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl05 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 49 minutes ago, tshile said: @bcl05 @bearrock what are your thoughts on cdc recommendation to send infected hospital staff home for furlough for 14 days? what do you do when it rips through the hospital and you have no staff? i suggest: **** the cdc’s recommendation didn’t go over well i liked idea of telescreen, send to centralized tent test center. shut down the hospital to walk ins. Funnel to central location keep medical workers from getting unnecessarily sick in hospitals I don't really know. I know our infectious disease docs have modeled various possibilities including widespread infections amongst hospital workers. I know that we have plans to have an isolated ward with only specifically designated staff who have particular expertise in protective equipment and techniques to minimize spread. I think if volumes get too big for that ward or enough of those workers get sick enough, the plans will have to adapt. I don't know if there's a "one size fits all" kind of thing, here. Our hospital is extremely large and extremely well-equipped and staffed. What works here will not apply at most hospitals. I'm not the one making those decisions, thank goodness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bcl05 said: Our hospital is extremely large and extremely well-equipped and staffed Presumably it serves a large area then? whats a realistic influx to the ED number at which you go “oh **** time for plan b” (then figure out what plan b is) I don’t know where the threshold is here but I think what someone said was “500 walking into the ED one night would be a disaster” and that’s not a lot of people for this area. they say it may snow and you can’t buy a loaf of bread or a gallon of milk anywhere for 3 days Edited February 27, 2020 by tshile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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